lot of things , i m sure you can understand if you try <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-rennex+Oct 31 2004, 08:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (rennex @ Oct 31 2004, 08:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> So I can call europeans fascist because they seem bent on imposing their anti-script views on everyone? Seems fair. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Actually no, you're not obligated to participate in the GO cup, and by the additude shown thusfar, I wouldn't really mind your absence either.
obuhNot Quite Smart at NSJoin Date: 2003-03-31Member: 15072Members, Constellation
<!--QuoteBegin-PotAuFeu+Oct 31 2004, 02:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (PotAuFeu @ Oct 31 2004, 02:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> lot of things , i m sure you can understand if you try <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I know, that was a rhetorical question. Now go back in your little french bs1 community.
Howabout making a poll in GO forums; so that nations coaches can vote for bs_1 or bs_0... Even the final decission will be up to GO... At least we can see general thoughts of teams...
<!--QuoteBegin-Travis Dane+Oct 31 2004, 02:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Travis Dane @ Oct 31 2004, 02:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-rennex+Oct 31 2004, 08:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (rennex @ Oct 31 2004, 08:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> So I can call europeans fascist because they seem bent on imposing their anti-script views on everyone? Seems fair. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Actually no, you're not obligated to participate in the GO cup, and by the additude shown thusfar, I wouldn't really mind your absence either. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> No you don't understand. The players from cal feel that the Go cup is limiting them to a lower level of game play. You made a statement about someone reaching their cap with the pistol. Well mate not everyone uses mouse 1 to fire or the mouse wheel. You see mate, in cal we don't care because what makes the game easier for one player makes the rest of us better and gives a us a greater challange. The player you insulted is a cal admin mate. fyi
<!--QuoteBegin-gazOzz+Oct 31 2004, 02:37 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (gazOzz @ Oct 31 2004, 02:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Howabout making a poll in GO forums; so that nations coaches can vote for bs_1 or bs_0... Even the final decission will be up to GO... At least we can see general thoughts of teams... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> That was exactly my idea . It's too early now . But i'm quite sure we will do that later .
<!--QuoteBegin-Travis Dane+Oct 31 2004, 02:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Travis Dane @ Oct 31 2004, 02:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-rennex+Oct 31 2004, 08:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (rennex @ Oct 31 2004, 08:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> So I can call europeans fascist because they seem bent on imposing their anti-script views on everyone? Seems fair. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Actually no, you're not obligated to participate in the GO cup, and by the additude shown thusfar, I wouldn't really mind your absence either. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I don't even play this game rofl
<!--QuoteBegin--Alpha-+Oct 31 2004, 08:44 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (-Alpha- @ Oct 31 2004, 08:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->No you don't understand. The players from cal feel that the Go cup is limiting them to a lower level of game play. You made a statement about someone reaching their cap with the pistol. Well mate not everyone uses mouse 1 to fire or the mouse wheel. You see mate, in cal we don't care because what makes the game easier for one player makes the rest of us better and gives a us a greater challange. The player you insulted is a cal admin mate. fyi<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Had a bit of material in my post, but I think I can limit it to: Do I give a **** about CAL, it's players, or it's admins? Not - really.
<!--QuoteBegin-Travis Dane+Oct 31 2004, 04:41 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Travis Dane @ Oct 31 2004, 04:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Alpha-+Oct 31 2004, 08:44 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (-Alpha- @ Oct 31 2004, 08:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->No you don't understand. The players from cal feel that the Go cup is limiting them to a lower level of game play. You made a statement about someone reaching their cap with the pistol. Well mate not everyone uses mouse 1 to fire or the mouse wheel. You see mate, in cal we don't care because what makes the game easier for one player makes the rest of us better and gives a us a greater challange. The player you insulted is a cal admin mate. fyi<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Had a bit of material in my post, but I think I can limit it to: Do I give a **** about CAL, it's players, or it's admins? Not - really. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> And thats why you dont understand. I know and understand the eu scene.
<!--QuoteBegin-rennex+Oct 31 2004, 09:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (rennex @ Oct 31 2004, 09:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->So I can call europeans fascist because they seem bent on imposing their anti-script views on everyone? Seems fair.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Since the first version of ns majority of european players play the game without script and americans play with them. In my opinion scripts are mostly harmless and limit the player more than empowering him since he will become dependant to them, i personnaly don't care about allowing them or not (i am speaking of simple bind script here). The most harmless things are located deeper in the half life netcode with its 10000 cvars (is there only one man on earth who know them all as well as their effect ?), i have seen strange things done with some cvar, in my opinion it is the thing that should be looked into instead of working on blocking scripts <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Currently the only script i know of who give you advantage is the 3-jump script to bunny hop, don't tell me i don't know what i am speaking about since i used it and you get far more speed with nearly perfect jumps.
as for the "fascist" call: don't be stupid, you don't like the rules of a cup ? don't join and everyone will be happy, in europe there only a small portions of the teams who play differently with and without scripts, for all the others you can't tell wheter bs is on or off, this is why we don't even look at this in the rules when we join a cup.
As a last thing, who implemented blockscript ? it's not the european players you know...
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The player you insulted is a cal admin mate. fyi<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> CAL may be a reference for you but in europe CAL is nothing for us.
For the main subject of this thread, the nation cup, i think that if the organisation is the same as the current one you better stop now or get some real referre who come when they are assigned to a match. We played 3 match until now, we never got a referee in time we always had to find another one since the assigned one never shown up...
<!--QuoteBegin-hawthorne+Oct 31 2004, 05:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (hawthorne @ Oct 31 2004, 05:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> hey eurofolk how about we just post all our evil usa scriptz and then you can use them too and realize how wrong you have been for your entire lives
(some select eurofolk exempt from this post) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Hawt you know the only reason USA players are any good is because of their 10 meg configs.
Also one reason you might care as to what CAL is or what they do is the fact it has lasted for four seasons since the release of 2.0. It seems european NS leagues have trouble staying alive (look at the past clanbase season, it finished with a bunch of forfeit wins).
I find this thread funny. What I find even more funny is how people once whined about how bs_1 should be implemented to prevent exploitative scripts, but now whine about how bs_1 is useless.
its true that too many europeans have a bad attitude against scripts.
its also true that a lot of europeans are ignorant and don't even want to learn anything about scripts.
its also true, that quite a few americans have that same attitude. i once got derailed into a scripting convo on a us server, 18 players. it was basically me and this other guy vs the rest of the server.
the problem here is not that euro's are exceptionally anti-scripting (though some of us are) but because too many euros are anti-american. VERY anti-american. and that hate/sense of superiority/whatever you want to call it isnt because of ns or online gaming, its something much deeper =/
<!--QuoteBegin-TOmekki+Nov 1 2004, 01:00 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TOmekki @ Nov 1 2004, 01:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> the problem here is not that euro's are exceptionally anti-scripting (though some of us are) but because too many euros are anti-american. VERY anti-american. and that hate/sense of superiority/whatever you want to call it isnt because of ns or online gaming, its something much deeper =/ <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I assure you this is a myth. Euros are not anti-american. It's just a pretext invented by some to make them feel better.
ill never vote for bush <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-hawthorne+Oct 31 2004, 05:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (hawthorne @ Oct 31 2004, 05:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> hey eurofolk how about we just post all our evil usa scriptz and then you can use them too and realize how wrong you have been for your entire lives
(some select eurofolk exempt from this post) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Actually , being used to play with bs_1 all the time.
I was playing this pcw vs the friendly clan which i will not name right now, who usually have the urge to turn of blockscript (when it was on for our rounds as alien) basicly because one of their members cant bhop without it. Anyway, as bs were off and my team were aliens, i realised i have no usefull script that i can use as alien :O! I can bhop with mwheel pretty fast already so 3jump would be useless. Is there actually a usefull script 'out there' at all for aliens specificly? Or "you" only use pistol script <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Cereal_KillR+Oct 31 2004, 06:14 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cereal_KillR @ Oct 31 2004, 06:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-TOmekki+Nov 1 2004, 01:00 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TOmekki @ Nov 1 2004, 01:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> the problem here is not that euro's are exceptionally anti-scripting (though some of us are) but because too many euros are anti-american. VERY anti-american. and that hate/sense of superiority/whatever you want to call it isnt because of ns or online gaming, its something much deeper =/ <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I assure you this is a myth. Euros are not anti-american. It's just a pretext invented by some to make them feel better. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> it's not a myth trust me.
maybe anti-american is a strong expression (although not entirely incorrect on some occasions) so i'll go with "sense of superiority".
of course i have no idea what some americans think of europeans, they could have that same attitude.
There are two useful scripts in ns without special. Pistol and 3hop. Both of which can be replicated if blocked by using your mousewheel.
Using blockscript and then not blocking special is just silly.
The only thing your really doing is punishing those who chose to button mash on the keyboard instead of using mwheel and then your not even blocking any real exploits.
You people need to chill out. Lorn maybe they would listen more if you weren't such a Condescending ****.
Euro's maybe he wouldn't be such a Condescending **** if you listened to his first couple posts instead of spouting out the same **** over and over.
Oh and Pot I'm sure your in some really good euro clan so you can back that up right? Cause I'm betting dn terror or sU could rip you apart even on some euro server with 250 ping and OHNOES blockscript making it so they can't move or aim.
<!--QuoteBegin-TOmekki+Nov 1 2004, 06:27 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TOmekki @ Nov 1 2004, 06:27 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Cereal_KillR+Oct 31 2004, 06:14 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cereal_KillR @ Oct 31 2004, 06:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-TOmekki+Nov 1 2004, 01:00 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TOmekki @ Nov 1 2004, 01:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> the problem here is not that euro's are exceptionally anti-scripting (though some of us are) but because too many euros are anti-american. VERY anti-american. and that hate/sense of superiority/whatever you want to call it isnt because of ns or online gaming, its something much deeper =/ <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I assure you this is a myth. Euros are not anti-american. It's just a pretext invented by some to make them feel better. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> it's not a myth trust me.
maybe anti-american is a strong expression (although not entirely incorrect on some occasions) so i'll go with "sense of superiority".
of course i have no idea what some americans think of europeans, they could have that same attitude. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> hmm for me an American is someone born in America and an European someone born in Europe. No more, no less.
Nice how this thread turned into a script debate again :/
But to stay off topic once more: I was and I am against blockscripts, but since a lot of whiny european clans can't play without blockscripts enabled, I had to change some settings and / or use external programs .. Sad that you have to go so far to be able to bunnyhop with mouse2.
<!--QuoteBegin-[SiD]Squishy+Nov 1 2004, 11:18 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ([SiD]Squishy @ Nov 1 2004, 11:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Oh and Pot I'm sure your in some really good euro clan so you can back that up right? Cause I'm betting dn terror or sU could rip you apart even on some euro server with 250 ping and OHNOES blockscript making it so they can't move or aim. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Have you ever seen any euro clans in action? If you havent, then I dont think that you should be so cocky.
<!--QuoteBegin-PotAuFeu+Oct 31 2004, 02:19 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (PotAuFeu @ Oct 31 2004, 02:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> lots of stuff <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> this is exactly the stereotype of a retarted euroclanner who can pwn on his homeland's pub server and thinks very smartly of "those yanks" and their "skills.cfg"
also, he either has no info whatsoever about scripts and what they do, or is just pretending to be innocent for the sake of exaggeration and trying to get hold of a point.
also seems he has never played against any american but that's irrelevant.
i agree with some other ppl; wait until the next patch and hopefully some corrections in mp_bs 1/0.
cereal_killr if you have that attitude then congrats youre obviously one of the smarter people.
lastly i'd like to recommend everyone to stop whining about scripts and people that use them, because <b>_they_are_allowed_and_accesible_for_everyone_</b>
a much bigger disadvantage is the fact that us/canadian teams will have to play in 120-180 ping depending on where they live & where the server will be (propably uk).
the same with the us rounds, the euros will have to play in high pings as well.
can't we stop these stupid comparaison between european clans and americans clans since we can't make match between us in good conditions...
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> this is exactly the stereotype of a retarted euroclanner who can pwn on his homeland's pub server and thinks very smartly of "those yanks" and their "skills.cfg". also, he either has no info whatsoever about scripts and what they do, or is just pretending to be innocent for the sake of exaggeration and trying to get hold of a point.
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> 1. he is not a "pub player" 2. he knows what scripts are and can do since we all used them at a time or another
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->also seems he has never played against any american but that's irrelevant. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Same for you with euro clans, all informations comes from discutions here or hltv.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->wait until the next patch and hopefully some corrections in mp_bs 1/0. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> what could be changed to it ? since all was said it is: remove it it's evil, omg REMOVE IT ... I never cared about adding it or removing it but the fact is that enough people wanted it to be there so now we just have to live with it, that's all.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->a much bigger disadvantage is the fact that us/canadian teams will have to play in 120-180 ping depending on where they live & where the server will be (propably uk).
the same with the us rounds, the euros will have to play in high pings as well.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> it is impossible to find a server where americans and europeans clans have good pings..
Squishy: How can you lecture forlorn when your sole input into this thread is "my clan is leeter than yours." You're hardly making the situation any better with your threats and idle claims. Also i do not know what clan pot is in, if any though judging from schmurhy's reaction it could be ownage, either way - at 250/300 ping you're going to be hard pressed to be beating anything that resembles a decent clan.
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First of all, you should all calm down. mp_bs 1 is not the end of the world, and flaming the opposition is not going to make the admins change anything. Right now, from what I've heard, they might do a vote and let the majority decide. It could go both ways, as the European community is pretty split in the view on scripts.
Acting immature and making retarded replies in this topic (even if you're replying to an even more retarded post...) is not going to gain you any support from the Euro community once it's voting time.
<!--QuoteBegin-Mr.Ben+Nov 1 2004, 08:24 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mr.Ben @ Nov 1 2004, 08:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Squishy: How can you lecture forlorn when your sole input into this thread is "my clan is leeter than yours." You're hardly making the situation any better with your threats and idle claims. Also i do not know what clan pot is in, if any though judging from schmurhy's reaction it could be ownage, either way - at 250/300 ping you're going to be hard pressed to be beating anything that resembles a decent clan. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Squishy said this:
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> This entire thread is laughable.
There are two useful scripts in ns without special. Pistol and 3hop. Both of which can be replicated if blocked by using your mousewheel.
Using blockscript and then not blocking special is just silly.
The only thing your really doing is punishing those who chose to button mash on the keyboard instead of using mwheel and then your not even blocking any real exploits.
You people need to chill out. Lorn maybe they would listen more if you weren't such a Condescending ****.
Euro's maybe he wouldn't be such a Condescending **** if you listened to his first couple posts instead of spouting out the same **** over and over.
Oh and Pot I'm sure your in some really good euro clan so you can back that up right? Cause I'm betting dn terror or sU could rip you apart even on some euro server with 250 ping and OHNOES blockscript making it so they can't move or aim.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
And you break it down into this:
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Oh and Pot I'm sure your in some really good euro clan so you can back that up right? Cause I'm betting dn terror or sU could rip you apart even on some euro server with 250 ping and OHNOES blockscript making it so they can't move or aim.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Gj.
Squishy is right, the euro's have ignored everything I've said because it goes against their league's agenda.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Right now gamingorb is using blockscripts but as mu said this is just because of _special. When b6 and a fix for this comes out we will be going to bs_0. Personally the addition of special doesn't bother me two hoots and if people want to use it then fine, however it's not my decision, it's lumps.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
And the fact is, there is a plugin that I've already posted a link to which removes _special, and it's ironic that you use _special when IN FACT it doesn't even block _special!
The ignorance is overwhelming. And now that you've backed into a logical courner, I get arguments started about how scripting isn't fair (which may or may not be true), when the truth is they aren't going to make a <b>speck</b> of a difference FOR THE BEST PLAYERS IN THE WORLD! (or, that's what I thought this cup was about)
The previous world cup's players have never complained about any exploits in the game before, has the community shrunken so much that only the scrubbiest players remain? This is rediculous...
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Have you ever seen any euro clans in action? If you havent, then I dont think that you should be so cocky.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The only euro clan I've played from sU that is well known is .CuC . I dunno how good they are but we 2-0'ed them on euro server?
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Oh a vote? Too bad the vote will be dominated by a euro vote, therefore it makes sense that bs_1 will stay on defying all rationality
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Actually no, you're not obligated to participate in the GO cup, and by the additude shown thusfar, I wouldn't really mind your absence either.
I know, that was a rhetorical question. Now go back in your little french bs1 community.
Howabout making a poll in GO forums; so that nations coaches can vote for bs_1 or bs_0... Even the final decission will be up to GO... At least we can see general thoughts of teams...
Actually no, you're not obligated to participate in the GO cup, and by the additude shown thusfar, I wouldn't really mind your absence either. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
No you don't understand. The players from cal feel that the Go cup is limiting them to a lower level of game play. You made a statement about someone reaching their cap with the pistol. Well mate not everyone uses mouse 1 to fire or the mouse wheel. You see mate, in cal we don't care because what makes the game easier for one player makes the rest of us better and gives a us a greater challange. The player you insulted is a cal admin mate. fyi
That was exactly my idea . It's too early now . But i'm quite sure we will do that later .
Actually no, you're not obligated to participate in the GO cup, and by the additude shown thusfar, I wouldn't really mind your absence either. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I don't even play this game rofl
Had a bit of material in my post, but I think I can limit it to: Do I give a **** about CAL, it's players, or it's admins? Not - really.
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And thats why you dont understand. I know and understand the eu scene.
Since the first version of ns majority of european players play the game without script and americans play with them.
In my opinion scripts are mostly harmless and limit the player more than empowering him since he will become dependant to them, i personnaly don't care about allowing them or not (i am speaking of simple bind script here).
The most harmless things are located deeper in the half life netcode with its 10000 cvars (is there only one man on earth who know them all as well as their effect ?), i have seen strange things done with some cvar, in my opinion it is the thing that should be looked into instead of working on blocking scripts <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Currently the only script i know of who give you advantage is the 3-jump script to bunny hop, don't tell me i don't know what i am speaking about since i used it and you get far more speed with nearly perfect jumps.
as for the "fascist" call: don't be stupid, you don't like the rules of a cup ? don't join and everyone will be happy, in europe there only a small portions of the teams who play differently with and without scripts, for all the others you can't tell wheter bs is on or off, this is why we don't even look at this in the rules when we join a cup.
As a last thing, who implemented blockscript ? it's not the european players you know...
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CAL may be a reference for you but in europe CAL is nothing for us.
For the main subject of this thread, the nation cup, i think that if the organisation is the same as the current one you better stop now or get some real referre who come when they are assigned to a match.
We played 3 match until now, we never got a referee in time we always had to find another one since the assigned one never shown up...
(some select eurofolk exempt from this post)
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Hawt you know the only reason USA players are any good is because of their 10 meg configs.
Also one reason you might care as to what CAL is or what they do is the fact it has lasted for four seasons since the release of 2.0. It seems european NS leagues have trouble staying alive (look at the past clanbase season, it finished with a bunch of forfeit wins).
its also true that a lot of europeans are ignorant and don't even want to learn anything about scripts.
its also true, that quite a few americans have that same attitude. i once got derailed into a scripting convo on a us server, 18 players. it was basically me and this other guy vs the rest of the server.
the problem here is not that euro's are exceptionally anti-scripting (though some of us are) but because too many euros are anti-american. VERY anti-american. and that hate/sense of superiority/whatever you want to call it isnt because of ns or online gaming, its something much deeper =/
anyways, i'm off to bed.
I dunno man I would think that people can look past politics for a game, rofl
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It would be REALLY sad if they can't...
I assure you this is a myth. Euros are not anti-american. It's just a pretext invented by some to make them feel better.
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Actually , being used to play with bs_1 all the time.
I was playing this pcw vs the friendly clan which i will not name right now, who usually have the urge to turn of blockscript (when it was on for our rounds as alien) basicly because one of their members cant bhop without it. Anyway, as bs were off and my team were aliens, i realised i have no usefull script that i can use as alien :O! I can bhop with mwheel pretty fast already so 3jump would be useless.
Is there actually a usefull script 'out there' at all for aliens specificly?
Or "you" only use pistol script <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I assure you this is a myth. Euros are not anti-american. It's just a pretext invented by some to make them feel better. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
it's not a myth trust me.
maybe anti-american is a strong expression (although not entirely incorrect on some occasions) so i'll go with "sense of superiority".
of course i have no idea what some americans think of europeans, they could have that same attitude.
There are two useful scripts in ns without special. Pistol and 3hop. Both of which can be replicated if blocked by using your mousewheel.
Using blockscript and then not blocking special is just silly.
The only thing your really doing is punishing those who chose to button mash on the keyboard instead of using mwheel and then your not even blocking any real exploits.
You people need to chill out. Lorn maybe they would listen more if you weren't such a Condescending ****.
Euro's maybe he wouldn't be such a Condescending **** if you listened to his first couple posts instead of spouting out the same **** over and over.
Oh and Pot I'm sure your in some really good euro clan so you can back that up right? Cause I'm betting dn terror or sU could rip you apart even on some euro server with 250 ping and OHNOES blockscript making it so they can't move or aim.
I assure you this is a myth. Euros are not anti-american. It's just a pretext invented by some to make them feel better. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
it's not a myth trust me.
maybe anti-american is a strong expression (although not entirely incorrect on some occasions) so i'll go with "sense of superiority".
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hmm for me an American is someone born in America and an European someone born in Europe. No more, no less.
But to stay off topic once more: I was and I am against blockscripts, but since a lot of whiny european clans can't play without blockscripts enabled, I had to change some settings and / or use external programs .. Sad that you have to go so far to be able to bunnyhop with mouse2.
Have you ever seen any euro clans in action? If you havent, then I dont think that you should be so cocky.
this is exactly the stereotype of a retarted euroclanner who can pwn on his homeland's pub server and thinks very smartly of "those yanks" and their "skills.cfg"
also, he either has no info whatsoever about scripts and what they do, or is just pretending to be innocent for the sake of exaggeration and trying to get hold of a point.
also seems he has never played against any american but that's irrelevant.
i agree with some other ppl; wait until the next patch and hopefully some corrections in mp_bs 1/0.
cereal_killr if you have that attitude then congrats youre obviously one of the smarter people.
lastly i'd like to recommend everyone to stop whining about scripts and people that use them, because <b>_they_are_allowed_and_accesible_for_everyone_</b>
a much bigger disadvantage is the fact that us/canadian teams will have to play in 120-180 ping depending on where they live & where the server will be (propably uk).
the same with the us rounds, the euros will have to play in high pings as well.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> this is exactly the stereotype of a retarted euroclanner who can pwn on his homeland's pub server and thinks very smartly of "those yanks" and their "skills.cfg".
also, he either has no info whatsoever about scripts and what they do, or is just pretending to be innocent for the sake of exaggeration and trying to get hold of a point.
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1. he is not a "pub player"
2. he knows what scripts are and can do since we all used them at a time or another
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->also seems he has never played against any american but that's irrelevant. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Same for you with euro clans, all informations comes from discutions here or hltv.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->wait until the next patch and hopefully some corrections in mp_bs 1/0. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
what could be changed to it ? since all was said it is: remove it it's evil, omg REMOVE IT
...
I never cared about adding it or removing it but the fact is that enough people wanted it to be there so now we just have to live with it, that's all.
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short answer: it_is_the_dev_team_who_added_blockscript
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->a much bigger disadvantage is the fact that us/canadian teams will have to play in 120-180 ping depending on where they live & where the server will be (propably uk).
the same with the us rounds, the euros will have to play in high pings as well.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
it is impossible to find a server where americans and europeans clans have good pings..
flaming the opposition is not going to make the admins change anything. Right
now, from what I've heard, they might do a vote and let the majority decide. It
could go both ways, as the European community is pretty split in the view on
scripts.
Acting immature and making retarded replies in this topic (even if you're replying
to an even more retarded post...) is not going to gain you any support from the
Euro community once it's voting time.
Squishy said this:
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> This entire thread is laughable.
There are two useful scripts in ns without special. Pistol and 3hop. Both of which can be replicated if blocked by using your mousewheel.
Using blockscript and then not blocking special is just silly.
The only thing your really doing is punishing those who chose to button mash on the keyboard instead of using mwheel and then your not even blocking any real exploits.
You people need to chill out. Lorn maybe they would listen more if you weren't such a Condescending ****.
Euro's maybe he wouldn't be such a Condescending **** if you listened to his first couple posts instead of spouting out the same **** over and over.
Oh and Pot I'm sure your in some really good euro clan so you can back that up right? Cause I'm betting dn terror or sU could rip you apart even on some euro server with 250 ping and OHNOES blockscript making it so they can't move or aim.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
And you break it down into this:
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Gj.
Squishy is right, the euro's have ignored everything I've said because it goes against their league's agenda.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Right now gamingorb is using blockscripts but as mu said this is just because of _special. When b6 and a fix for this comes out we will be going to bs_0. Personally the addition of special doesn't bother me two hoots and if people want to use it then fine, however it's not my decision, it's lumps.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
And the fact is, there is a plugin that I've already posted a link to which removes _special, and it's ironic that you use _special when IN FACT it doesn't even block _special!
The ignorance is overwhelming. And now that you've backed into a logical courner, I get arguments started about how scripting isn't fair (which may or may not be true), when the truth is they aren't going to make a <b>speck</b> of a difference FOR THE BEST PLAYERS IN THE WORLD! (or, that's what I thought this cup was about)
The previous world cup's players have never complained about any exploits in the game before, has the community shrunken so much that only the scrubbiest players remain? This is rediculous...
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Have you ever seen any euro clans in action? If you havent, then I dont think that you should be so cocky.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The only euro clan I've played from sU that is well known is .CuC . I dunno how good they are but we 2-0'ed them on euro server?
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Oh a vote? Too bad the vote will be dominated by a euro vote, therefore it makes sense that bs_1 will stay on defying all rationality