Ns Against Other Mods
Lt.Realness
Join Date: 2004-03-17 Member: 27379Members
Join Date: 2004-03-17 Member: 27379Members
<div class="IPBDescription">advantages & disatvantages</div> hey ya all =)
so what do you think about NSs advantages against other MODs of Half-Life ?
I'd say
- it's very very futuristic and based it's own written story! (better than Sience and Industry)
- it's pure SiFi and it's that kinda SiFi which makes fun!
- the game expects much more templay than in other MODs (for example CS with it's one man armys..) Every single teammate is important. You know that you'd sooner die if your mate get killed, and you're on your own.
- It's community is not a bunch of kids (like the CS community - comeon be honest it's true...)
- most of the NS community don't act like kids and don't "speak" their language like "pwned" "1337" "b00n" "n00b" etc.
- most players don't say "lol" in Real Life (and most players DO have a Real Life <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->)
- most players are over 16 years old
- NS is not very compact (but that's not a disadvantage) and hard to fit in.
- it's not the same if you're playing the same maps over and over again. Every Commander and every alien is different and doesn't act like a robot (like it's in CS or DoD). So every single round is completely incalculably (exept the opposite team just won the last 3 rounds or more over and over again (: )
- it's the randomness which makes fun
- Weapons are cool,aliens are freaky and very well thought!
- every player respects the other one
disadvantages:
"nothing to add Sir!"
So what do you think? I feel so nice in this community because it's like when HL just came out and you didn't have to think about cheaters and stuff. And everyone is so nice =)
so post your comment about NS and other HL MODs who could mess with it!
so what do you think about NSs advantages against other MODs of Half-Life ?
I'd say
- it's very very futuristic and based it's own written story! (better than Sience and Industry)
- it's pure SiFi and it's that kinda SiFi which makes fun!
- the game expects much more templay than in other MODs (for example CS with it's one man armys..) Every single teammate is important. You know that you'd sooner die if your mate get killed, and you're on your own.
- It's community is not a bunch of kids (like the CS community - comeon be honest it's true...)
- most of the NS community don't act like kids and don't "speak" their language like "pwned" "1337" "b00n" "n00b" etc.
- most players don't say "lol" in Real Life (and most players DO have a Real Life <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->)
- most players are over 16 years old
- NS is not very compact (but that's not a disadvantage) and hard to fit in.
- it's not the same if you're playing the same maps over and over again. Every Commander and every alien is different and doesn't act like a robot (like it's in CS or DoD). So every single round is completely incalculably (exept the opposite team just won the last 3 rounds or more over and over again (: )
- it's the randomness which makes fun
- Weapons are cool,aliens are freaky and very well thought!
- every player respects the other one
disadvantages:
"nothing to add Sir!"
So what do you think? I feel so nice in this community because it's like when HL just came out and you didn't have to think about cheaters and stuff. And everyone is so nice =)
so post your comment about NS and other HL MODs who could mess with it!
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Comments
81.2.131.12:27000 TruppenTransporter der -=NGG=-
they're our trainingspartner and you should know some of them here from the forums =) Like Lt.Gravity (he did the ns_source map) and Obst&Gemüse for example.
I'm 14 and I don't act like a CS kiddie <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
But yes, NS is a very original mod and it rocks <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> Although I have yet to see a pub that's nice to newbies (I'm one myself) <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
variety in tactics
can be both fast paced and slow paced
reasonably skill based, but still requires teamwork to win
scifi atmosphere
require both strategy and skills to survive
fun
disadvantages:
hard to learn
large OMG factor for new players : OMG THAT THING JUST ATE ME OMG HWO CAN THOSE MARINES FLYY OMG WHY ISNT THAT BIG GREEN ROBOT DYING OMG HWO COME I CANT SEE/HEAR HIM OMG HOW IS HE MOVIGN SOO FAST OMG HWO COME I HAEV WALLHACKS?!?! (lol)
requires a lot of teamwork to play (can be hard for some people)
however many of the servers are 18 players or up, all the way to 30 max players. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
combat only-server isn't an excuse because combat is also at it's best and most fun at 7 vs 7 or less.
NS has:
-- More team-play when compared to standard trash like TFC or DMC.
-- It allows commanding in a rather simple fashion.
-- There are life-forms, which means there is some variety in the gameplay and some"natural"advantages to have -that also <b>show</b>.
-- It allows you you to build as a gorge and sneak cloaked. No other mod has this in a way that would also make it feel like it matters.
As to the disadvantages:
-- Old, old engine with ridicilous physics.
-- Very slow update speed and poor responce to community feedback. As a result, the game does not give out as much as it could in the long run.
(-- Steam. You love to hate it due of some bad solutions Valve has made.)
Advantages:
- It is the superior game.
- There is more of a skill variety amongst players, so you can easily find a server that fits your skill (I find that in S&I there are typically one or two good players on the server, and then the rest of the people are pretty much average - this is just what I have seen so far) (With DoD it's harder to tell skill though because the difference between someone suicide rushing to capture flags, and someone happily nestled on top of a roof sniping are two very different scores.)
-I think it is more intellectually stimulating, the goals are the same, but the tactics are able to vary much more than with other mods (for the most part).
-There is now the alternate NS, combat, which is a nice thing to switch to after a really frustrating game of NS, or if that is your preference to play instead of NS.
Disadvantages
- The S&I and DoD communities are much nicer (esp. to girls)
p.s. if you think this game takes too much teamwork, try rescuing a scientist by yourself, it's very difficult. Also, I don’t think the “OMG factor” would be a negative, because that is excitement, and people like being surprised and excited when playing games I would think (well maybe not strategy games, but when you first start off you aren’t trying to get through it strategically, you are just trying to figure things out).
Umm I beg to differ, on CS you have to get your team to watch your back if you rush and so forth, you always see people sticking together on CS even when they don't know each other.
On NS now theres another story, you just need one good rambo solo alien to kill as much as possible, then go fade then pick on the marine team.
This so called CS has more kids on...maybe is the fact that:-
1. CS has been around for so long its a world known MP game
2. CS has a larger amount of player i.e. obviously some are kids.
Uhmm no CS takes way more teamplay than NS. Period.
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Yes everyone who plays CS is a immature kid. Just like everyone who plays NS is a very mature adult. PLEASE, get over yourself and the NS community. We are no better/worse than CS.
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Same as the last one. Besides, WTH does saying 'noob' have to do with maturity? Nothing.
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NS is pretty damn predictable. Every round is pretty similiar... I guess NS is SLIGHTLY better than CS in this regard, but CS is much more tactically diverse and has a ton more depth, so CS wins.
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... See above. This community is no different than any other.
1. I gues you are a CS player..you wouldn't talk like that otherwise
2 .you just made a comment to some of my points and you didn't gave us any reasons to prove your statements
3 .not every round is very similar
4. I think you didn't get the point of NS
5. stop playing it until you still think like that
6. I was a cs player myself until steam came out. I was really good at this game (I've been playing it since beta 2.0) but I really care about the people I'm playing with and how they're acting... and in cs it became much more kiddylike after every single new version was released. I said when v 1.3 came out "nah I gonna stop playin'" but I didn't. after the next version I said it again and the same for the version after. I feel like I'm in the wrong movie when one of the enemys tells me during a clanwar at 01:50am "sorry I've to go to bed now, my mum is really angry about it...I'm 12 just years old" (ya this quote is not faked, it really happened and it took part in the list why I stopped playing this game).
7. NS 4 ever =)
8. I think you're just plain' NS because it's just a "nice" alternative if you get bored of CS or another game..
Disadvantages
- The S&I and DoD communities are much nicer (esp. to girls)
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I am a girl as well (but don't want PT), and I must agree.
However, that aside, the problems with NS Classic are as follows.
1) I do not control my level of fun. My team controls this. Normally, this is not a problem (other games have a similar setup) however NS implents teamwork very poorly, which leads to point number...
2) The game itself lacks purpose and structure. A clear direction, objective (other than "KILL HIVE!"), or reason to go to certain rooms / nodes would greatly improve classic. IE - I do think that my idea to link the nodes would improve classic gamplay 10 fold, however, becuase it would be considered an overhaul it is not going to happen. In fact, I guess anything that would make NS fun would be considered an overhaul - so classic will stay in this <i>wonderful</i> state forever it seems. Oh well. The lack of structure / team work leads to the third problem...
3) Rambos. Why do I want to cap nodes again? Spawn camping will not only give my team res but it will stop them from advancing. Without any reason to capture something (ie -- I need some "speical" node located at point X in order to open up HA / JP tech, and the ailens need that same node to open up Onos) and without any reason to go somewhere as a team, as a whole -- the game will always be rambos. Classic will always be a crappy version of Combat, it seems...
Can't blame the devs though, I'm sure they're getting tired of all of this crap and in order to make Classic fun again it would require work -- they might be all workedout. (I probably would be...)
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why do you think the NS community isn't open that much as the other ones are?
Exactly, it doesn't work to make the mods against each other. I like the contrast between NS and TFC. I enjoy both for their fun and uniqueness.
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/me also does same as post below this one (Teppla) when there is a girl in the server
I go out of my way to help a newbie if he really want to learn. If there is a girl in the server I'm going to be even more wanting to go out of my way to make her feel welcome. I'll want to be on her team and in her squad if I can.
I go out of my way to please any e-girl I see on an NS server. (sometimes I copy down their steam id and follow them around acting as their body guard)
I make it my number 1 priority to please e-girls of the ns community all over.
I am REALLY disapointed that you guys treat e-girls like this! <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I do respect every single player on the server! My best girlfriend on the internet wouldn't be in my clan if we didn't met each other during a game and were playing together and stuff =)
I really think she became a big part of why I'm plain' NS! never met such a nice person.
if you read this Jasmine -I love you!!- =)
sry dudes D hehe
I totally understand bro!
I think the main problem with NS is that most guys are just unsensitive and rude.
I totally understand bro!
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ya I recognized that when I was fighting for the "female marine models" in the ideas and suggestions forum! Most guys just postet trash comments like "Once I disagre with the female models cuz the polygonrate for her breasts would be too high" or "ya and I want female gorge and female onos"...poor guys
I go out of my way to please any e-girl I see on an NS server. (sometimes I copy down their steam id and follow them around acting as their body guard)
I make it my number 1 priority to please e-girls of the ns community all over.
I am REALLY disapointed that you guys treat e-girls like this! <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
sounds like more of a stalker to me
I campaigned around my neighborhood for the addition of female models to NS.(we all play pokemon, NS, and yu-gi-oh together)
And im REALLY disapointed that they are not in the game by default.
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age=10?
I'm a lover not a hater but the male community needs to change this sexist attidude ASAP. Teppla can you provide me some screenshot examples of this disrespect please?
PS: In my opinion, women can be even better warriors then men.
I believe most people are just sexist and dont give females a chance!
Im sure Jane is an excellent PT and probably will be the most helpful and informative one out of all of them! Along with athena.
Anyways, me and my e-girl (shes a veteran runescape player with over 6 years of Everquest play time, I <3 you SeXyAnG3L) Hehe!
I think most of the guys need to grow up and start dating some e-girls before they start talking! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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no we're both 17 years old! and why do you disrespecting us?? just because of she's a girl and very good at ns? and me just because I love her? sry you better leave this topic if you're talking like that. thank you!
I have to agree with x5 ! Women are much better in teamwork than men are! (I'm better in playing than her but sometimes she does really do some awesome actions! and she saved my viritual **** more than a hundret times <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->. yay it's not a dishonor to be rescued by a girl hehe)
but plz don't go off topic! I could start a similar one about that theme after I took some sleep (it's 02:35am here) this discussion is about NS and is advantages and disadvantages against other MODs. such things like you discussed up there are okay as a comment but it shouldn't become the new main topic =)
keep it up girls and boys!