Should I Overclock?
Well, I just got this new CPU fan(TT Polo 735) to replace my old stock AMD cooler. Very nice, I used to hit 70C in games, now I hover around 45(less if I raise the fan speed)
So since I have so much new cooling power, should I overclock it? And where would I find good guides on this.
So since I have so much new cooling power, should I overclock it? And where would I find good guides on this.
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I don't think the o/c with air cooled will be benificial - but that's through me asking questions/research on www.ocforums.com
I need a new cooler for my pc. It's a silent cooler but just under normal load it hits about 65C and about 75C flatout
what the **** are you talking about?
what the **** are you talking about? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
he's not sure, obviously, just wanted to sound knowlagable. (Note, I know nothing about Ocing <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->)
I am not sure if you should, although it might increase performance, where is swiftspear when you need him?
Do you need extra prozessor power? Do you feel comfortable losing CPU warranty and risking a possible CPU overheat?
Volcano 12
Athlon 64 3800.
I don't suggest it, unless of course its an XP or something, and want to OC it 3-4 mhz.
But the rule of thumb is never OC more than 20% of your original clock speed.
What heatsink do you use? I never bought the giant Thermaltake sink I was planning on getting, so I'm looking around to see if there's anything better for air cooling.
Volcano 12
Athlon 64 3800.
I don't suggest it, unless of course its an XP or something, and want to OC it 3-4 mhz.
But the rule of thumb is never OC more than 20% of your original clock speed. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
you have a 3800+, why would you <i>want</i> to overclock it?
the watercooling required to get a decent overclock out of it costs about the same as a FX-55
What heatsink do you use? I never bought the giant Thermaltake sink I was planning on getting, so I'm looking around to see if there's anything better for air cooling.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I use the Thermalright SP97. <a href='http://www.thermalright.com/a_page/main_product_sp97.htm' target='_blank'>Specifications here</a>. I've also heard the new SI-97 is great as well.
Volcano 12
Athlon 64 3800.
I don't suggest it, unless of course its an XP or something, and want to OC it 3-4 mhz.
But the rule of thumb is never OC more than 20% of your original clock speed. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Not always the case:
I have an Amd Athlon 2500XP - barton core. And a Coolermaster aero-7 cooler.
Base speed (Mhz): 1800
Current speed: 2200.
My temps never go above 54'c <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I run at 40-50deg depending on load. I did o/c to 2.2ghz with a 10deg increase in temprature but I didnt see that huge an improvment so I just brought it back down.
Volcano 12
Athlon 64 3800.
I don't suggest it, unless of course its an XP or something, and want to OC it 3-4 mhz.
But the rule of thumb is never OC more than 20% of your original clock speed. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Not always the case:
I have an Amd Athlon 2500XP - barton core. And a Coolermaster aero-7 cooler.
Base speed (Mhz): 1800
Current speed: 2200.
My temps never go above 54'c <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
there's specific chips that do wonders in OC'ing. The barton 2500+ to 3200+ is probably the current trend, but I heard the slowest '64 in 90 nm was really good too.
Athlon XP 2800+ Barton
Oh and I belive I've already voided the warrenty by installing the new cooler.
Volcano 12
Athlon 64 3800.
I don't suggest it, unless of course its an XP or something, and want to OC it 3-4 mhz.
But the rule of thumb is never OC more than 20% of your original clock speed. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Not always the case:
I have an Amd Athlon 2500XP - barton core. And a Coolermaster aero-7 cooler.
Base speed (Mhz): 1800
Current speed: 2200.
My temps never go above 54'c <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
The rule of thumb applies to lifespan. I guantee you that a normal barton 2500 will last longer.
So since I have so much new cooling power, should I overclock it? And where would I find good guides on this. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Over clock a few FSB, test the temperature and stability, and if your still sitting pretty try it again. Do this a couple times until you either recieve a temperature too high for your liking or your system reaches unstable status. Then clock it back down to what ever it was the time before the last time its was stable/cool enough. Your system will be fine.
Of course you can guarantee that, since it can't be disproven without an awful lot of money and effort. But it's not a very nice thing to do, to spread "information" that is very difficult to back up and quite speculative.
(The lifespan on CPUs varies alot inherenetly, so if nothing happens you can just say he was lucky with his overclock, and if it eventually breaks you can blame it the overclocking <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->)
One thing you should know about the manufacturing of processors though is that faster processors aren't generally made to be faster. An athlon XP 2500+ isn't an athlon XP 2500+ until it has been classified as such, meaning they make generic athlon-xps with say the barton core and some stepping and test them to determine what they could sell them as. They generally err on the safe side, a processor should work allright in a somewhat poorly aircooled machine with the stock fan. If you increase cooling you get more head room, it's extremely speculative to suggest that lifespan suffers at all if you add better cooling(as in this case) and overclock it while still maintain lower temperatures than before and stock voltage.
Another question one might ask, have you ever had a processor die by being "worn out"(e.g. by electromigration and such) before it was retired to the trash heap? Overclocking is certainly a risk, but just as to how large the risks are I don't think anyone has any ideas.
Of course you can guarantee that, since it can't be disproven without an awful lot of money and effort. But it's not a very nice thing to do, to spread "information" that is very difficult to back up and quite speculative.
(The lifespan on CPUs varies alot inherenetly, so if nothing happens you can just say he was lucky with his overclock, and if it eventually breaks you can blame it the overclocking <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->)
One thing you should know about the manufacturing of processors though is that faster processors aren't generally made to be faster. An athlon XP 2500+ isn't an athlon XP 2500+ until it has been classified as such, meaning they make generic athlon-xps with say the barton core and some stepping and test them to determine what they could sell them as. They generally err on the safe side, a processor should work allright in a somewhat poorly aircooled machine with the stock fan. If you increase cooling you get more head room, it's extremely speculative to suggest that lifespan suffers at all if you add better cooling(as in this case) and overclock it while still maintain lower temperatures than before and stock voltage.
Another question one might ask, have you ever had a processor die by being "worn out"(e.g. by electromigration and such) before it was retired to the trash heap? Overclocking is certainly a risk, but just as to how large the risks are I don't think anyone has any ideas. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Getting too hot for 3 seconds can severely damage your proccessor, No, it's not hard information to comprehend.
Of course you can guarantee that, since it can't be disproven without an awful lot of money and effort. But it's not a very nice thing to do, to spread "information" that is very difficult to back up and quite speculative.
(The lifespan on CPUs varies alot inherenetly, so if nothing happens you can just say he was lucky with his overclock, and if it eventually breaks you can blame it the overclocking <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->)
One thing you should know about the manufacturing of processors though is that faster processors aren't generally made to be faster. An athlon XP 2500+ isn't an athlon XP 2500+ until it has been classified as such, meaning they make generic athlon-xps with say the barton core and some stepping and test them to determine what they could sell them as. They generally err on the safe side, a processor should work allright in a somewhat poorly aircooled machine with the stock fan. If you increase cooling you get more head room, it's extremely speculative to suggest that lifespan suffers at all if you add better cooling(as in this case) and overclock it while still maintain lower temperatures than before and stock voltage.
Another question one might ask, have you ever had a processor die by being "worn out"(e.g. by electromigration and such) before it was retired to the trash heap? Overclocking is certainly a risk, but just as to how large the risks are I don't think anyone has any ideas. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Getting too hot for 3 seconds can severely damage your proccessor, No, it's not hard information to comprehend. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
That's one hell of a synopsis.
Well, so will putting voltage across random pins on the processor for no reason and it makes about as much sense. Your processors temperature is not going to shoot into the stratosphere if you check that it is well within tolerable and then nudge either frequency (or voltage but that you have to be extra carefull with) up a bit, only a fool would, say, up the voltage to 1.8v and nudge the frequency up 500 MHz, a sensible person goes there step by step, raising voltage only if needed, checking temperatures and a quick check on stabillity.
You don't really run a massive risk of that if you OC properly though.
[edit] Read: I would do it anytime with any CPU that had a decent aftermarket HS/fan, without thinking twice about it.
It didn't come with a cooler, (OEM) so i bought one, little did i know that it was onyl suitable for processors up to 3.2, ANd i didn't put the thermal paste on it.
it frequently hit 70C in games
I can't overclock anyway <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> (damn you to hell intel mobo!)