Do I Know You?
<div class="IPBDescription">Non-US citizens</div> In the spirit of international cooperation I have to ask a question.
For those of you who are not US citizens or if you are a permanent resident alien. Do any of you feel that you would fall into this catagory with respect to me:
<b>Close and continuing relationship with feelings of kinship, loyalty or obligation.</b>
An odd question to be sure but it is one that I need to ask. Personally I would have to say it can be close but no as I don't even know your real names but I have to be sure.
For those of you who are not US citizens or if you are a permanent resident alien. Do any of you feel that you would fall into this catagory with respect to me:
<b>Close and continuing relationship with feelings of kinship, loyalty or obligation.</b>
An odd question to be sure but it is one that I need to ask. Personally I would have to say it can be close but no as I don't even know your real names but I have to be sure.
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No. To me you're just a bouncy cuddly avatar.
It's hard to actually feel a lot for someone you've never met.
I mean, I can only assume you gender, race, voice and so on.
You're kind of like a character in a book.
Some description is given, but a lot of it is left to the imagination.
You had the edgemaster as your avi once didn't you? ^^;
Location doesn't mean much to me outside of the potential for raiding your house while you're out ^~
You had the edgemaster as your avi once didn't you? ^^;
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No. To me you're just a bouncy cuddly avatar.
It's hard to actually feel a lot for someone you've never met.
I mean, I can only assume you gender, race, voice and so on.
You're kind of like a character in a book.
Some description is given, but a lot of it is left to the imagination. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
same thing <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I met too much people on the internet to feel anything...
But I wanted to chime in and say that it's odd to me that you can have those 'feelings' towards "strangers".... I never would have guessed that this was normal... but now I liken it to a child having a pen pal - they may never meet, but they develope care and interest in this stranger... and soon the stranger part goes away.
There are a lot of great people around here - some you click with exceptionally well - some you always remain indifferent towards.
I guess you're all right. I don't claim to know you that well or anything. <i>*Shrug*</i>
For those of you who are not US citizens or if you are a permanent resident alien. Do any of you feel that you would fall into this catagory with respect to me:
<b>Close and continuing relationship with feelings of kinship, loyalty or obligation.</b>
An odd question to be sure but it is one that I need to ask. Personally I would have to say it can be close but no as I don't even know your real names but I have to be sure. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Wizard... Did I hear you correctly?
<a href='http://WizardAtPsu.YouAreMyFriend.com/' target='_blank'>I think we <b>ALL</b> know what this calls for...</a>
Do you feel the same way?? <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
No. To me you're just a bouncy cuddly avatar.
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oh boy, that makes me giggle
For those of you who are not US citizens or if you are a permanent resident alien. Do any of you feel that you would fall into this catagory with respect to me:
<b>Close and continuing relationship with feelings of kinship, loyalty or obligation.</b>
An odd question to be sure but it is one that I need to ask. Personally I would have to say it can be close but no as I don't even know your real names but I have to be sure. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Wizard... Did I hear you correctly?
<a href='http://WizardAtPsu.YouAreMyFriend.com/' target='_blank'>I think we <b>ALL</b> know what this calls for...</a>
Do you feel the same way?? <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
whats the music from that link from? i hate trying to remember that crap
"Do you respect me/feel kinship towards me, even if you don't live in the same country/aren't a citizen of this country?"
"Hell no."
That's just great.... <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo-->
"Do you respect me/feel kinship towards me, even if you don't live in the same country/aren't a citizen of this country?"
"Hell no."
That's just great.... <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
It's just that I don't think he said it in such a way that bore correct interpretation.
What he probably meant was more simply a sense of community with him despite living in different nations. I just don't see wizard as the kind of person who randomly picks out people on the internet late at night and asks them "Are you my friend?"
I know, after posting that YOUAREMYFRIEND site, I don't deserve to come back here and clarify what he said for him, but I have a strong feeling that is what he meant.
Wow, that isn't a description I would use for too many people that I have met online...
I would consider you a respected peer, or an online buddy, but I don't know about " feelings of kinship, loyalty or obligation." <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif' /><!--endemo-->
"Do you respect me/feel kinship towards me, even if you don't live in the same country/aren't a citizen of this country?"
"Hell no."
That's just great.... <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
No, it's because we're on the internet. From what I can tell of him, he seems like a nice enough guy, but without meeting him I cannot say for sure. Country of origin has nothing to do with it.
I was required to find out if anyone felt any of those sort of things regarding our 'relationship'. If indeed there were people with whom I felt obligation/kinship etc. then I have reporting requirements.
Basically, if I <i>know</i> any non US citizens I have to report that to the NSA. I didn't even think these forums counted but we had a discussion about it at work due to recent activities (several people have been trying to sneak into our buildings) And they made specific mention of internet forums.
So, by me hiding behind this avatar, and not really knowing any of your names besides your aliases, I was just saved a whole pile of paperwork.
No go do that paperwork. >:D
No seriously, what is this? Some kind of antiterror measure? This stuff is getting out of hand.
Where do you work again? And none of that "I could tell you but then I'd have to kill you"-crap. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I was required to find out if anyone felt any of those sort of things regarding our 'relationship'. If indeed there were people with whom I felt obligation/kinship etc. then I have reporting requirements.
Basically, if I <i>know</i> any non US citizens I have to report that to the NSA. I didn't even think these forums counted but we had a discussion about it at work due to recent activities (several people have been trying to sneak into our buildings) And they made specific mention of internet forums.
So, by me hiding behind this avatar, and not really knowing any of your names besides your aliases, I was just saved a whole pile of paperwork. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well that's kind of a strict definition <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
If you offered to sneak me into your office I probably wouldn't decline... But then again, the vast majority of us really have no idea what you do. I thought you were at collage or something...
No go do that paperwork. >:D
No seriously, what is this? Some kind of antiterror measure? This stuff is getting out of hand.
Where do you work again? And none of that "I could tell you but then I'd have to kill you"-crap. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Trust me, the paperwork is the easiest part. The fun part comes when a Suit shows up at YOUR door and runs an investigation of you because I said that I know you.
They did this for my old boss, a Venezuelan citizen. Boy was she surprised when they showed up on her doorstep on Margharita Island in Venezuela. I had forgotten to tell her that I mentioned her on my paperwork. She freaked out because she thought they were immigration or the IRS.
So sure, I can list you as a contact if you really want me to. But I'll be sure to mention that I feel that you are trying to coerce me so you get that full turn your head and cough feeling.
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As for what I do at work. I am not a spy or clandestine so I can say where I work rather than saying I work for "Bob's plumbing service". I am a LM engineer Who works on R&D projects. So I can tell you, and not have to kill you. (thats another person's job)
It has nothing to do with Anti-Terror. It is an anti spy measure.
(Anti-spy also means anti-competition as they try to spy on us from time to time as well. Though if caught they would get locked out of government contracts and would basically go bankrupt)
They don't eff around when it comes to stuff like that, if they sprung for two tickets to venezela, they can come to germany.
It makes sense what wizard says, I've been kept out of the building I work at for lack of id [and it was 6:30 in the morning, but alot of people come early bird status]
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wizard, is that out of the ethics handbook? it sure as hell sounds like something that would come from it
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They don't eff around when it comes to stuff like that, if they sprung for two tickets to venezela, they can come to germany.
It makes sense what wizard says, I've been kept out of the building I work at for lack of id [and it was 6:30 in the morning, but alot of people come early bird status]
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wizard, is that out of the ethics handbook? it sure as hell sounds like something that would come from it
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No, it is a law. I am required to report any foreign contacts that meet that level of relationship. Or I get a suite in federal pound me in the you know where prison.
In addition it is illegal for me to leave the country if I do not file a foreign travel notice. Even if it is just a trip to Canada.
And lolfighter, it would not be fun at all. Unlike the movies there is nothing fun about infosec. They even interviewed my first grade teacher.
That is one of the problems with working in this industry. People want to do it because it sounds cool to say: I work on project 'cant tell you or they shoot you'
But when it comes down to it we are just engineers, programmers and managers. Sure our programs have cool names like ... names that sound cool but I don't think I can say them.
But if you come looking for intrigue or James Bond and not Joe Software, you will be disappointed.
The thread was a way for me to find out if anyone I keep close contact with on the forums was a foreign citizen.
"...And tonight, in breaking news, around 18000 apparently unrelated people were found dead. The cause of death appears to be severe beatings to the face and groin..."
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the orange flavouring on your vitamin tablet? lol! The snot in your nose and the dog that is being twirld around your head?
Have you ever tried to get a date by saying this stuff? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->