Genocider: You sound very familiar to a Kharaa skulk that was playing about a week back on my team. After we won, I went marines, you stayed Kharaa, and I prepared for your rush. I killed you twice, a few of your friends (it's not that hard if you see the skulk and you have a 60 ping), and then you suddenly started spewing "Smokedbacon's a hacker. HES USING AN AIMBOT". You kept spamming it whenever you died, or whenever I killed another skulk. Eventually you left because everyone kept calling you an idiot.
Nothing in this game requires aim except maybe the non-hitscan weapons like acid rocket, spike, or bilebomb. With those you just need to know how to lead your shot on a moving target. Its easy. No aimbot is required.
Hacks developed for this game would be absolutely useless.
Yea, I'm the idiot, and all of you think aimbots are useless, THEY ARE FOR AUTOMATICALLY AIMING AT SOMETHING, EVEN IF YOU DON'T SEE IT, AND IT AUTOMATICALLY FIRES FOR YOU TOO.
And how are you going to kill the welder who heals the HA when they are healing the HAs that are killing you? Wow, that actually makes sense. Thats the first time I've seen actual brainwork, too bad its by me and not an actual member. What can the aliens do about it? Nothing, except get shot down because there isn't much teamwork on the alien side anyways. The only time you'll see teamwork is when two aliens want the same kill. Obviously all marines have to do it is point and click. Thats why I like aliens, they have more variety, but then there are the marines who lame thier way through kills with the strongest gun in the game.
And its not that easy to dodge some one with an HMG, its not like it has no aim. All of you say, "Its easy to kill an HA!!! You suck!" But the reality is it isn't, or else it wouldn't be heavy armor. But it gives too much protection, ecspecially if you survive getting anywhere close to it. The upgrades on their weapons only make it worse, added armor, and added gun power. Thats what needs to be nerfed. All you have to do is upgrade your armor and you can take on anything, ecspecially if your command is giving you free health.
Commanders also need to be nerfed, they should only be alow to drop any kind of item a certain distance away from the base, that way aliens can actually have a chance when they attack somebody. I know you all lie about killing people in HAs because the bitegun is useless against it, it only does about 10 damage to the armor, how far will that get you? Back to your respawn where they are camping and then they kill you again.
Now lets here from the idiots again, lord knows they ALWAYS have something to say.
Never mind that there's already at least 2-3 ways for each team to see enemies "through walls"...
Personally, I've always found that looking at screenshots of wallhacks and such just makes me more confused than anything; and can't understand how someone could play effectively like that.
Actually...Skulk bite does full damage. Just that 90%-ish is absorbed by Heavy Armour.
So, a Marine with full Health / Armour: 100 / 290
One bite: 80 damage (8 health, 72 armour) = 92 / 228 Two bites: 80 damage = 86 / 156 Three bites: 80 damage = 74 / 84 Four bites: 80 damage = 66 / 12 Five bites: 80 damage = *Dead*
Five bites off a Skulk kills a fully-armoured (in Heavy) Marine, if my math is correct. I'm fairly sure on it.
As for "never seeing Alien teamwork", I see it all the time. Heck, usually I see less teamwork on the Marines than the Aliens.
The Aliens are outgunned and usually outnumbered. They learn to work as a team VERY fast.
As for Commanders only being able to drop within a radius of the base...Aliens can heal health/armour away from their base...that's what Gorges do. Their ammo also automatically regenerates.
As for "camping at your respawn", well, generally if the game is to this point; you've lost already. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
Since this was the only reason I came here for, I shall leave these idiots alone now. I know there are the few smart people, but they are very rare. I can see alot of you anger quickly, thats because you don't know how else to deal with me, as I say to people who ban me from whatever they ban me from, You can't handle me. I obviously am more then enough to keep the village idiots busy for the next year or two, but I'm not going to toy with you.
I shall go back to enjoying whatever aspects of NS I can, but I'll probably return to keep the idiots in check, for this is my thread, and I owned everybody in here with my arguements.
I hope the rest of you have a blissfully ignorant rest of your day, because I know there will be more to come.
I know you all lie about killing people in HAs because the bitegun is useless against it, it only does about 10 damage to the armor, how far will that get you?[QUOTE]
Its not supposed to get you very far at all, skulks arent supposed to be a match for HAs, they are the weakest attacking class, but a fade or an onos can take out a heavy with ease but im sure that many people in these forums have taken out a few HAs with skulk before its not that hard if youre sneaky
Your arguments had no structure and we shot them all down. Aimbots might as well be useless, wallhacks are useless... Thank you for leaving, don't come back! Moderators, please lock this thread?
Oh wow, you 'owned' everybody in this thread. Pfft, buddy, if you were actually winning you woulda kept on. Obviously, it was you who lost. Your just backing down while you still have a chance. If anything, your just another idiot troller who rates games after one play. Just shut up and get lost if all your gonna do is flame a mod and the community with it. All you did here today was show that you are nothing but a jerk and made an embarassment out of your self.
1) I have yet to see any cheaters in NS. That doesn't mean there aren't any. IMHO cheats are not all that usefull in NS, so they shouldn't pose a problem. The team and playtesters even tested just how useful existing cheats would be in NS, conclusion: they don't give you that big of an advantage.
2) Yes this game (mod) has bugs, perhaps even some balance issues (?). The team never said this game (mod) was going to be bug free. All in all the first release isn't all that buggy. Expect the fixes in the near future.
3) I'm really disapointed guys. It's a shame you guys are bringing the forums down to this level. This thread just turned in a stupid flame fest.
<!--QuoteBegin--Genocider+Nov 15 2002, 07:37 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Genocider @ Nov 15 2002, 07:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->What can the aliens do about it? Nothing, except get shot down because there isn't much teamwork on the alien side anyways.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> my god.....get a f3xing mic and stop crying about not having teamwork....or, learn to use mm2. <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo-->
Its easy to act tough on the internet isn't it? You should know Dark Quartz since its the only place you can act tough. I cannot make an embarrasment out of myself unless I fell embarassed, shouldn't you know that? Or is the only thing you know consist of W is to move forward, S is to mave backwards, and so forth?
I havn't flamed a mod and community, I flamed a community and offered creative critisism to a mod who will most likley never read this, unless he does care about his community, though I doubt it. Most programmers are too busy programming to care about reading their forums, or care about what I have to say. You stand up for people who wouldn't stand up for you. You also take things way too seriously.
Here is a quote: "Idiots populate the internet." It was not said by me, and makes alot of sense when reading topic in this forum.
<!--QuoteBegin--Genocider+Nov 15 2002, 10:54 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Genocider @ Nov 15 2002, 10:54 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->And yet there are still no answers to my questions. When I said a marine stands out of range of the offense tower I meant the two feet it can shoot into.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I often stand out of range of <!--emo&::sentry::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/turret.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='turret.gif'><!--endemo--> and kill them with acid rocket things, 12 hits is all...
Hah, all of the team are always reading the forums. If you took the time to read topics, you'd know that Flayra himself responds to certain topics. Now PLEASE go AWAY and don't come back. I swear to god, we need an IQ test as part of the registration process to filter out idiots like Genocider. If I could, I would uninstall NS from his computer, sell it and buy him a lifetime membership at the Llama farm.
FamDiaper-Wearing Dog On A BallJoin Date: 2002-02-17Member: 222Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
edited November 2002
This has turned into nothing but a Flame fest. Even Genocider is no longer addressing the very 'intelligent comments' he wished to spawn, and the rest of you should adress the points and not the faults in the future.
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Nothing in this game requires aim except maybe the non-hitscan weapons like acid rocket, spike, or bilebomb. With those you just need to know how to lead your shot on a moving target. Its easy. No aimbot is required.
Hacks developed for this game would be absolutely useless.
And how are you going to kill the welder who heals the HA when they are healing the HAs that are killing you? Wow, that actually makes sense. Thats the first time I've seen actual brainwork, too bad its by me and not an actual member. What can the aliens do about it? Nothing, except get shot down because there isn't much teamwork on the alien side anyways. The only time you'll see teamwork is when two aliens want the same kill. Obviously all marines have to do it is point and click. Thats why I like aliens, they have more variety, but then there are the marines who lame thier way through kills with the strongest gun in the game.
And its not that easy to dodge some one with an HMG, its not like it has no aim. All of you say, "Its easy to kill an HA!!! You suck!" But the reality is it isn't, or else it wouldn't be heavy armor. But it gives too much protection, ecspecially if you survive getting anywhere close to it. The upgrades on their weapons only make it worse, added armor, and added gun power. Thats what needs to be nerfed. All you have to do is upgrade your armor and you can take on anything, ecspecially if your command is giving you free health.
Commanders also need to be nerfed, they should only be alow to drop any kind of item a certain distance away from the base, that way aliens can actually have a chance when they attack somebody. I know you all lie about killing people in HAs because the bitegun is useless against it, it only does about 10 damage to the armor, how far will that get you? Back to your respawn where they are camping and then they kill you again.
Now lets here from the idiots again, lord knows they ALWAYS have something to say.
Personally, I've always found that looking at screenshots of wallhacks and such just makes me more confused than anything; and can't understand how someone could play effectively like that.
So, a Marine with full Health / Armour: 100 / 290
One bite: 80 damage (8 health, 72 armour) = 92 / 228
Two bites: 80 damage = 86 / 156
Three bites: 80 damage = 74 / 84
Four bites: 80 damage = 66 / 12
Five bites: 80 damage = *Dead*
Five bites off a Skulk kills a fully-armoured (in Heavy) Marine, if my math is correct. I'm fairly sure on it.
As for "never seeing Alien teamwork", I see it all the time. Heck, usually I see less teamwork on the Marines than the Aliens.
The Aliens are outgunned and usually outnumbered. They learn to work as a team VERY fast.
As for Commanders only being able to drop within a radius of the base...Aliens can heal health/armour away from their base...that's what Gorges do. Their ammo also automatically regenerates.
As for "camping at your respawn", well, generally if the game is to this point; you've lost already. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
[Edit: Math error.]
I shall go back to enjoying whatever aspects of NS I can, but I'll probably return to keep the idiots in check, for this is my thread, and I owned everybody in here with my arguements.
I hope the rest of you have a blissfully ignorant rest of your day, because I know there will be more to come.
Its not supposed to get you very far at all, skulks arent supposed to be a match for HAs, they are the weakest attacking class, but a fade or an onos can take out a heavy with ease but im sure that many people in these forums have taken out a few HAs with skulk before its not that hard if youre sneaky
mod and the community with it. All you did here today was show that you are nothing but a jerk and made an embarassment out of your self.
2) Yes this game (mod) has bugs, perhaps even some balance issues (?). The team never said this game (mod) was going to be bug free. All in all the first release isn't all that buggy. Expect the fixes in the near future.
3) I'm really disapointed guys. It's a shame you guys are bringing the forums down to this level. This thread just turned in a stupid flame fest.
my god.....get a f3xing mic and stop crying about not having teamwork....or, learn to use mm2. <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo-->
I havn't flamed a mod and community, I flamed a community and offered creative critisism to a mod who will most likley never read this, unless he does care about his community, though I doubt it. Most programmers are too busy programming to care about reading their forums, or care about what I have to say. You stand up for people who wouldn't stand up for you. You also take things way too seriously.
Here is a quote: "Idiots populate the internet." It was not said by me, and makes alot of sense when reading topic in this forum.
I often stand out of range of <!--emo&::sentry::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/turret.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='turret.gif'><!--endemo--> and kill them with acid rocket things, 12 hits is all...
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