Ns_eclipse For V2

KungFuSquirrel · November 2002

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Fopher @ Nov 14 2002, 02:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>I found a serious exploitable spot in Eclipse where you can camp forever as an alien and the marines wont find you because they can't see it and bullets don't go through and it's too high for grenades to reach. Just thought you might wanna know and all.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Yes, I'll fix it immediately, since you didn't even bother to tell me where it is...

Greedo · November 2002

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (KungFuSquirrel @ Nov 14 2002, 08:09 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Fopher @ Nov 14 2002, 02:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>I found a serious exploitable spot in Eclipse where you can camp forever as an alien and the marines wont find you because they can't see it and bullets don't go through and it's too high for grenades to reach. Just thought you might wanna know and all.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Yes, I'll fix it immediately, since you didn't even bother to tell me where it is...</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
No! not the spot! It's my favorite spot to evolve! (and yes, I do know where it is, so KFS, I'll tell you later or something)

Black_Wolf · November 2002

i dont know if this has been said or not (sorry for not reading all so far, not enough time available to read it all) but i think that in some of the corridors there needs to bit a -bit- more cover (maybe just make the side pillars a bit thicker or something, if its not too hard) and also near the marine spawn it is very hard for aliens to survive, and especially forskulks to wall-climb (as there are many thin pillars there as well). This may be intentional though, i dont know.

Necro · November 2002

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Greedo386 @ Nov 14 2002, 08:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (KungFuSquirrel @ Nov 14 2002, 08:09 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Fopher @ Nov 14 2002, 02:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>I found a serious exploitable spot in Eclipse where you can camp forever as an alien and the marines wont find you because they can't see it and bullets don't go through and it's too high for grenades to reach. Just thought you might wanna know and all.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Yes, I'll fix it immediately, since you didn't even bother to tell me where it is...</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
No! not the spot! It's my favorite spot to evolve! (and yes, I do know where it is, so KFS, I'll tell you later or something)</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
lol

that's like saying "ns has a bug. fix it."

kanseri · November 2002

hmm..sound interesting.

Fina · November 2002

All I can think of is a light in the Marine CC area. I was bugging my commander to make a ammo station, then I found out we had one... in the shadows. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'> Stupid me...

pielemuis · November 2002

is eclipse really that dark? i haven't seen a single dark spot in eclipse s:/ Maybe my gamma is set too high s:/
I like eclipse as it is, some more vents would be nice, but i'm not sure if you have room left for those or if you can find some places they can actually add to the gameplay, one of the reasons (besides that it plays and looks great) eclipse gets played so much is because of the relatively low CPU load. I'd like to see some more high spots in the triad for the lerks to hide on s:]

HavoK · November 2002

I would agree with the "more vents" suggestion.

For some reason, I just don't find the map as enjoyable as the others when I play Alien. I think it's because all of the hallways pretty much force aliens to run on the ground like humans. The slopes make it difficult to walk on the ceiling without blocking your vision. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'> And really, the hive rooms don't seem to make the map play differently. It always seems to come down to horseshoe and/or triad. I do really like Triad though.

It's still a great map (as are all NS_ maps), so don't take this too harshly. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'>

chbrules2000 · November 2002

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'> <--I like that icon =) OK, down to buisness, the map is my fav. Me and my friends come over and play huge **obscenity** LAN parties of 32 on eclipse, they love it, it makes both sides very fair in play. As in any map, it's not perfect, of course. I think a few things that u could change would by a different way of getting out of the marine base, it's horrible, like could the marine's get a door they can exit outta? Like an escape door, to the middle of the map, or teleporters? And I've read the idea in the other side of the forum on letting marines make more bases like the aliens make hives. I think that since that's not a reality for now, you should setup a rather secure room in the map where the marines could setup another base with tele's, sentries, command stations, and spawns. Cuz I hate it when the onos come and rush and always win. The marines need at least 1 more safe haven, just 1 more sounds fine though. I hope you consider this, because this would greatly help the marines in the struggle that the onos give them when like 16 onos come rushing and trampling everything. P.S. It'd be kewl if u designed the room so marine objects like the command post could fit nicely in there when build =). Thanks for your time!!!!!

JRPereira · November 2002

My --only-- issue with eclipse is a bug with selecting stuff, where you can click anywhere (clear space or on buildings) in some areas and it'll select a nearby building, usually a sentry turret (altho once I got lucky and selected a turret factory I was trying to upgrade). It's made it hard to do a lot of upgrades and I can say without a doubt that I've lost games to that bug. It seems to happen everywhere on the map but there are 3 areas I'm 100% sure it happens on -- the triad generator array, eclipse command, and this area in the image below.

<a href='http://www.ww-unleashed.com/projectjrp/eclipse-bug.jpg' target='_blank'>http://www.ww-unleashed.com/projectjrp/eclipse-bug.jpg</a>

I'm not sure what's causing the bug, I've heard that it could be some problem with the commander mode code, and I've also heard that it could be an issue with the map. As I've only had the bug on eclipse, I'm going with that it's probably an issue with the map, but I have no idea what it could be.

Btw, once that bug gets fixed eclipse will be the best NS map by far. Great job so far, KFS! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'>

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