My Ns Is Crashing When I Open Console Sometimes

BBGunBillyBBGunBilly Join Date: 2005-01-06 Member: 32986Members
<div class="IPBDescription">And im having probs with weapons</div> Alright, Ive been playing NS since it came out, I played 1.0 for a few months and drifted away and came back and continued doing this till last summer. I have now been very active in the vphoenix.net community.

I tried searching and came up with nothing, so here is my problem...

Now recently Ive been having problems with my NS crashing when I open my console, its not all the time or even most of the time, I was ignoring it for a long time but it happened twice yesterday in about 5 hours of play and just now after a little more then an hour today. I have tried on a couple servers and it isnt just the server. I am an admin on the server so I use console a few times a map sometimes. Its weird, at first i thought it was if I use voice comm but then yesterday it crashed just on its own, I was a skulk on ns_eclipse and it crashed while i was in the hive. So I really dunno whats up with that?

The other problem is sometimes I have problems with my weapons and selecting them, for example I spawned with knife out and didnt have pistol or lmg, but I dropped my knife and had an lmg, but when i try to switch, the hud is red for the logo. Someone tried to drop me a pistol and I couldnt pick it up. This problem isnt a big one, it has only happened twice to me in all my time in ns, just annoying. When I die I spawn with normal weapons again and all is fine.

My computer is a...
P4 1.8 ghz
512 DDR ram
40 gig hard drive @ 7200rpms
ATI Radeon 9550
Soundblaster Live 5.1 card

Thanks in Advance for any help.

Comments

  • ZyndromeZyndrome Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14974Members
    I also have (major) problems with the console opening, as my entire computer system locks up cause of it. The only option I have when that happens, is to press my Reset-button.
    This happens <b><i>only</i></b> in NS, and in no other mod. The chance of a lockup is so extreme, I won't play NS until this have been solved. A theory is that there's a glitch in the VGUI-code together with the popup-menu.
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    try these:
    1) reinstall NS
    2) reinstall HL/NS
    3) reinstall Steam/HL/NS
    4) Use malware scaners (AVG, SpyBot S&D, and AdAware)
    5) If nothing works, then post this is the Bug forum (folow proper posting guidelines)
  • FlayraFlayra Game Director, Unknown Worlds Entertainment San Francisco Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 3Super Administrators, NS2 Developer, Subnautica Developer
    Weird problem. I've never heard of anything like this.

    The only thing I can think of is that the gamma is getting restored to default (so the console text doesn't look washed out) when you bring up the console, so I wonder if this is a video card issue.
  • MrRadicalEdMrRadicalEd Turrent Master Join Date: 2004-08-13 Member: 30601Members
    I know on some servers I will spawn without a knife or pistol, and have been told to drop everything I have and then I will have my weapon items again, but this doesn't always work(and I get the whole server yelling at me yadda yadda).. anyway I BELIEVE that the no weapon items issue is server plugin related.

    Is this crash problem only caused by you opening the console or does any other action trigger the crash?

    Does opening the console, at any time while playing NS, cause a crash or only <i>sometimes</i>?
  • BBGunBillyBBGunBilly Join Date: 2005-01-06 Member: 32986Members
    edited January 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-Zyndrome+Jan 18 2005, 01:28 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zyndrome @ Jan 18 2005, 01:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I also have (major) problems with the console opening, as my entire computer system locks up cause of it. The only option I have when that happens, is to press my Reset-button.
    This happens <b><i>only</i></b> in NS, and in no other mod. The chance of a lockup is so extreme, I won't play NS until this have been solved. A theory is that there's a glitch in the VGUI-code together with the popup-menu. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah, seems you have the same problem.

    I have reinstalled NS I beleave since it has started, I will consider doing this again, need to back up the custom models I have, I have had the problem for a while, through several custom models so I know thats not the problem.

    I also have ad aware and norton and both do scans once a week and everything seems to be fine.

    When it happens, I also have to hit the restart button, nothing else will work.

    It only happens sometimes when I hit the console button, I use the button a couple times a day tho because I am an admin on the server I am on the most.
  • ZyndromeZyndrome Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14974Members
    It seems users with ATI Radeon gfx-cards get this problem. I have a ATI Radeon 9600XT card... using latest Catalyst-drivers.

    <!--QuoteBegin-"DragonMech"+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ("DragonMech")</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I don't think this should be in tech support - I have the exact same problem, in both B5 and B6.

    Sager 5690 Laptop
    3.2 Ghz P4
    1 gig DDR400 RAM
    <b>Mobility radeon 9700 128Mb</b>
    Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 NX
    Logitech MX1000 in USB

    All with the latest drivers, running the Omega's for my video card.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    And you...

    <!--QuoteBegin-"BBGunBilly"+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ("BBGunBilly")</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->My computer is a...
    P4 1.8 ghz
    512 DDR ram
    40 gig hard drive @ 7200rpms
    <b>ATI Radeon 9550</b>
    Soundblaster Live 5.1 card<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
  • BBGunBillyBBGunBilly Join Date: 2005-01-06 Member: 32986Members
    ok, so what can we do? anything?
  • MalevolentMalevolent Join Date: 2003-08-03 Member: 18842Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-MrRadicalEd+Jan 18 2005, 03:10 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MrRadicalEd @ Jan 18 2005, 03:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I know on some servers I will spawn without a knife or pistol, and have been told to drop everything I have and then I will have my weapon items again, but this doesn't always work(and I get the whole server yelling at me yadda yadda).. anyway I BELIEVE that the no weapon items issue is server plugin related. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    To fix that, type: "record *" (where the * is the name of it; the name doesn't matter). Then type: "stop" right away. That'll record a demo, but it should also give you all of your weapons back.
  • VadimVadim Join Date: 2003-02-23 Member: 13889Members
    yep this problem only affects ati users for some reason, and its extremely frustrating, i started playing without console and esc
  • VoronweVoronwe Join Date: 2002-12-21 Member: 11297Members, Constellation
    ati radeon 9550

    exact same problem as described.

    it rarely happens the first, second or third time I open the console....but it will happen...at some point.

    opening the console is basically russian roulette. I am also an admin, and it greatly harms my abilities to control games.

    like, if some dude is going ape on the mic, and I want to kick him...I often open the console to warn him, I do..he calls me an ****, or makes some comment about my mother, so I go to kick him and instead...boom. system locks up.

    sucks.

    a way I COULD get around this is to use HLSW...but as soon as I alt-tab, I get gamma problems..and when I come back into NS, it's dark as hell.

    I have all updated drives, a new monitor, etc.
  • BulletHeadBulletHead Join Date: 2004-07-22 Member: 30049Members
    edited January 2005
    Radeon 9600 Pro w/ Catalyst drivers

    Same problem

    Complete reformat and re-install of drivers + update seemed to help

    BTW- I'm on a 64 bit system <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->


    Do you have issues where, when you open the console, it bugs the colors and such?

    My major problem is my power supply... it's a whimpy 250 watt... for a 64 bit system with a 7200 RPM HD, 3 fans, 2.8 ghz cpu, and Radeon 9600 Pro...

    I'm hopin to get a 450 watt soon <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    But yeah, why is radeon bugged?


    Oh, and Voronwe

    bind your number pad keys to commands, or your F6-F12

    I have F6 amx_kickmenu, F7 amx_banmenu, F8 amx_teammenu, F9 amx_voicemenu, ect

    And type @x where x is the beginning of a colour in normal chat for amx_ssay, and @x where x is the beginning of a colour in team chat for amx_chat (admins only can see it)
  • MenesMenes Join Date: 2005-01-23 Member: 37600Members, NS1 Playtester
    Has anyone experienced this bug with windows xp service pack 1? Do you all have service pack 2?
  • semipsychoticsemipsychotic Join Date: 2003-07-09 Member: 18061Members
    edited January 2005
    Pentium4, 2.4 ghz
    Radeon 9600XT, 4.10 Catalysts
    512meg RAM
    80gb HD
    Soundblaster Live, 5.12 drivers
    DirectX 9.0c

    My specs are very similar to BBgunBilly's, but I DON'T have this problem.

    Guys, be sure to post up on your DirectX version, because that might have something to do with it.

    Also, do you guys experience any other noticable oddities with gamma settings?

    *EDIT*
    Check out this thread, over here:
    <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=83146' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index....showtopic=83146</a>

    See what happens if you guys stand still and open the console.
  • BulletHeadBulletHead Join Date: 2004-07-22 Member: 30049Members
    INterestingly enough, I never had an ATI card with sp 1 <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Maybe it is an SP 2 bug as well? Nah... can't be... we ALL know that SP2 is PERFECT and doesn't cause ANY problems at all [/dripping sarcasm]
  • NeonKnightNeonKnight Join Date: 2005-01-28 Member: 38762Members
    Im running a Radeon 9600se Older drivers. Build version 6.14.0010.6490(english) These drivers have always worked wonders for me. The card is also overclocked to 1.8 voltage. which doesnt cause any problems. Im wondering if maybe some of the settings you guys are changing in the Catalyst control panel or something. Maybe your tuning it for performance or quality, or something of the sort.

    Try disabling Vsync or re-enabling it. Get an older version of the Catalyst drivers.

    Also how many of you have the AGP texture acceleration on. If you dont have it, you need to install the Chipset INF drivers for your mobo. try a few things let me know.

    Specs:
    P4 @2.86 800fsb w/ HT
    MSI Neo-LS mobo
    512 Samsung PC3200 ram
    Radeon 9600se (oced to... dunno)
    20 gig hd
    80 gig hd
    Turtle Beach santacruz soundcard (otherone fried)
    DirectX 9.0c

    Everything is up to date mostly. Maybe its a clash of some Half life files.
  • VoronweVoronwe Join Date: 2002-12-21 Member: 11297Members, Constellation
    I won't lie.

    I have basically no idea about vid card settings.

    I have the uptodate driver....and that's about it.

    I haven't changed anything else short of screensize =p

    so, it's not a result of fiddling with settings - as I haven't touched mine.

    and I am running sp2
  • VadimVadim Join Date: 2003-02-23 Member: 13889Members
    well a brief update on this ATI situation, i am using service pack 1 by the way with the following specs:

    - Asus p4s800, 2400 mhz PIV
    - Sound: on board
    - GFX: ati radeon 9600xt (latest ATI drivers)
    - RAM: 512 mb
    - Windows XP pro
    - 3.0 beta 5 NS

    after one of these freezes, i once got this error report from windows XP:

    The file or directory \Documents and settings...\Application Data\ATI\ACE\Profiles.xml is corrupt and unreadable. Please run the CHkdks utility.

    and the game wouldnt even load until i ran scandisk and it fixed this file along with some steam caches, so this is defenitely a problem between ATI drivers and NS (it doesn't happen in DOD etc.) and the interesting thing is that this started happening only in beta5. Perhaps the cause for this problem is some kind of modification in VGUI.
  • VoronweVoronwe Join Date: 2002-12-21 Member: 11297Members, Constellation
    anyone found out a concrete fix yet? =/
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