Amx Mod Exp

IBT · January 2005

<div class="IPBDescription">can you not EARN it?</div> if you want, you can call me insane, but...
im just sick of this, this stupid mod was brought by a few whining people who couldent stick together and wonder why they have no exp because they just get picked off in a lonely hallway, while asking for someone to get in the chair. im talking about the AMX mod that just, gives you exp just because your way behind, i mean, if your behind everyone else with EXP Stick together and help someone in a higher level, Take a Hint! i tried looking for the AMX webpage, but i have found nothing for NS or anything related to this elsewhere, is there any way to put something to disable this because it seems every server has it and linuxmonster is full almost all the time.
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Naxo · January 2005

The main purpose was to fix the fact that late-joining = get bored until the next round... I think. When you join while veryone's at level 8, you're happy to have such a plugin.

TranquilChaos · January 2005

I rather dislike this modification as well. Being a marine and having all of the late joining/less-skilled alien players suddenly become able to evolve into Onos can really sap what little fun can be found in combat. The best solution is to play on servers which actually have a close to normal time limit. (20 is about the most I can endure, 15 minutes or less is preferable). Or better yet, play an NS map, usually more fun and probably less time-consuming.

Depot · January 2005

"latejoin.amxx" is the plugin's name. As mentioned it enables players who join late in the game to catch up, but only by a certain amount. It does not favor either team and is desirable for late joiners.

There is nothing the client can do to disable this. It's one of the more popular plugins on my server.

Gliss · January 2005

ah, so you prefer for the new players just to sit out until the next round as the game drags on? because there's no way a skulk that is 1 minute into the game can defeat a marine who is 8, 9, or even 6 minutes into the game.

Ots · January 2005

This topic, is a disgrace.

Charge · January 2005

AMXX <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' />

DC_Darkling · January 2005

I hate evil plugins, and I totally agree. They should techup the CORRECT way.

Need a server to play on? check my sig. The xs4all combat server has absolute no crappy plugins. We run amxx, afkkicker and thats kinda it. \o/

next thing we know all servers on the world run lerklift aswell. bah

Supernorn · January 2005

At least there arent any "WC3 mod" style plugins for NS Combat... oh wait. Thats already happened. Now Combat is even less appealing! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

IBT · January 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (pjofsky @ Jan 25 2005, 12:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> ah, so you prefer for the new players just to sit out until the next round as the game drags on? because there's no way a skulk that is 1 minute into the game can defeat a marine who is 8, 9, or even 6 minutes into the game.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
this is why i stress teamwork, and ask isnt that what NS is about?
if you just joined the game, stick with the fade who's in lvl 8, stay behind him and back him up, when he gets a kill, you get a reward, be sneaky, and get to the chair, and get a few bites and a level before anyone notices you instead of the fade in back cutting large chunks of meat off the marines.
New players have no reason to be idle, they should get up off there lazy ***es and back the team up from afar.

thanks DC Darkling ill add it to my Fav's and join later when exams are over.

Violence · January 2005

Hmm, I remember you. You came to the server I have admin on and saw it gave you two or three levels for joining ten minutes into the game and you said you didn't like them and refused to use them. See, the thing is CO is really for new players and for server filling. The server you were on was VPhoenix, and I'm not sure how much longer we will have the pity points but it really does help little nubbins who need upgrades to kill things. Try coming back to the server when it has an NS map on, we have many skilled players and I'm sure you will have a blast. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' />

SaltzBad · January 2005

No combat isn't about teamwork. Its about random **** and using cheesy upgrades to see what can and can't be done. And hell yes the latejoin and even simple "You're behind the team" exp is the best thing to ever happen to co - so the nubs and people joining late can actually have fun, instead of just being another statistic for those with all the tech.

And you can babble all you want about teamwork, a vanilla skulk is utterly useless against GLs in the hiveroom, a few JP/SGers and god knows what else. He's more like free XP for the other side and might even block a fade someday, who knows.

As for it skewing co_ games a bit, possibly, hypothetically - who the hell cares? If they really were bad players I don't give a damn that they have the points to go Onos or Fade. All the better, because I'd feel kind of bad about spawnkilling a nubskulk 12 times in a row.

Depot · January 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SaltzBad @ Jan 25 2005, 11:23 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> No combat isn't about teamwork. Its about random **** and using cheesy upgrades to see what can and can't be done. And hell yes the latejoin and even simple "You're behind the team" exp is the best thing to ever happen to co - so the nubs and people joining late can actually have fun, instead of just being another statistic for those with all the tech.

And you can babble all you want about teamwork, a vanilla skulk is utterly useless against GLs in the hiveroom, a few JP/SGers and god knows what else. He's more like free XP for the other side and might even block a fade someday, who knows.

As for it skewing co_ games a bit, possibly, hypothetically - who the hell cares? If they really were bad players I don't give a damn that they have the points to go Onos or Fade. All the better, because I'd feel kind of bad about spawnkilling a nubskulk 12 times in a row.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Damn good points sire!

@DC Darkling: I also run me_superlift on my server. It really doesn't affect balance as jetpackers can lift nmes as well as lerks. Hell, look at the lerk - does he not favor a prehistoric bird who is supposed to pick up his prey with his claws? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' />

SuitePee · January 2005

...notices this is a CO whinge...(oh boy)
This is a CO whinge. May I advise you take my advice: "CO is not a real event" and therefore should not be treated as such. It's a fun alternative for those people who want the NS setup in a HL-team fortress style.
Now shut up and accept the AMX thing (I am certainly grateful for it and have yet to hear somebody whinge about it....til now), or go play NS where ull find the AMX mod does not exist.
Now,can we have a real NS whinge please........ <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' />

IBT · January 2005

Agreed Violence, Every NS game is fun. ill be sure to check back for another game of NS.

useually, then those nades are flying everywhere, nobody in the hive has a chance, because they are all dead, skulk, or gestating.not JUST the lvl one skulks, and there are some rare occasions where i have managed to run around in diamos and bite the CC. and for your no teamwork in CO thing, grab a shotgun and armour 2 and go against the enemy team alone, see how long you last.

Depot · January 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SuitePee @ Jan 25 2005, 12:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Now shut up and accept the AMX thing (I am certainly grateful for it and have yet to hear somebody whinge about it....til now), or go play NS where ull find the AMX mod does not exist.
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Why on earth would you think AMX does not exist on NS servers? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' />

Uzguz · January 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (kwikloader @ Jan 26 2005, 02:32 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SuitePee @ Jan 25 2005, 12:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Now shut up and accept the AMX thing (I am certainly grateful for it and have yet to hear somebody whinge about it....til now), or go play NS where ull find <b>the</b> AMX mod does not exist.
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Why on earth would you think AMX does not exist on NS servers? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' />  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
He means that particular plugin, not AMXmod.

Depot · January 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Uzguz @ Jan 25 2005, 01:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (kwikloader @ Jan 26 2005, 02:32 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SuitePee @ Jan 25 2005, 12:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Now shut up and accept the AMX thing (I am certainly grateful for it and have yet to hear somebody whinge about it....til now), or go play NS where ull find <b>the</b> AMX mod does not exist.
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Why on earth would you think AMX does not exist on NS servers? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
He means that particular plugin, not AMXmod.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Maybe, maybe not. I took it for what he stated, you're tryign to read his mind.

DC_Darkling · January 2005

I can't be arsed to learn stuff like lerklift. I will accept it when its a buildin game feature, not a second sooner.

and IBT, I suggest you read or rules to enjoy your time. Should be both in NL en EN written. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' />

Bring skill. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' />

Depot · January 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DC Darkling @ Jan 25 2005, 01:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I can't be arsed to learn stuff like lerklift. I will accept it when its a buildin game feature, not a second sooner.

and IBT, I suggest you read or rules to enjoy your time. Should be both in NL en EN written. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' />

Bring skill. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' />  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Yeah it's tough to learn amigo - you fly up to your target and press the use key. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' />

DC_Darkling · January 2005

can't be bothered to press use. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' />

Swift_Idiot · January 2005

The exp mod is good because why would you want to join a combat game after more than five minutes just to get thrashed by upgraded fades or shotty hmg armor marines. I wouldn't. This is one of the few mods I agree with to some extent.

What the mod shouldn't do is give players who have already joined XP. There should be no "you are too far behind the rest of your team" for people who were there from the start. That's my only suggestion.

Lerklift is funny but stupid. I prefer skulk ladders anyway. Skulks are more common.

The WC3/S&I CO mod is stupid, and I can safely say that without ever having tried it before.

I think a lot of things are stupid and it's JMO. But seriously, they are. You guys. Jeez.

NakedDave · January 2005

the amx mod pulls its popularity from the fact that it gives marines who just joined a chance against focus skulks. And Aliens who just joined the chance to get a few upgrades/evolve.

Players who are already in the game, but having a really bad time get occasional boosts after they get killed, if their teammates are doing much better than them. If that seems cruel and unfair, maybe you should play combat only, and skip out on NS. And form Co_ clans. And make that the competitive game, and Ns_ just one of those things you play to take a break from the challenging Co_ games.

Seriously. Most of us don't like combat enough to turn it into this die-hard proof of skill you seem to. Relax a bit, give your brain a break before it gets taxed again in the next NS map. And practice fundamental skills, playing with different upgrade sets.

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