I'm sure there are players better then me but I don't ban for skill. If i was a "abusive admin" and banned for skill then I wouldn't take the time to spectate and record demos of people for hacks.
<!--QuoteBegin-Chez+Jan 28 2005, 04:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Chez @ Jan 28 2005, 04:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> proof would be great <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Well yes, where is this conclusive evidence?
<!--QuoteBegin-Drummer+Jan 28 2005, 03:52 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Drummer @ Jan 28 2005, 03:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> whats funnier, is the fact that Chez is a member of last seasons CAL champions, Terror. this is just so funny. ive seen demos/videos of Chez and his clan mates. theres a reason why they are CAL champs. THEY ARE SKILLED!!!!!! chez isnt hacking, its just another case of retarded admins, like we havent heard it all before... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Have you ever stopped to think, that Maybe. Just maybe. Someone wanted to try to hack. Wanted to see what its like, Learn how it works? i guess you didnt did you.
Lets put it this way, You HAVE seen demos of him playing. But you havent seen the demo of him playing on our server! have you ever flipping though of that? NO! so before you all want to hype up, and defend him how about you see evidence first. Providing that i can get my hands on it. What happend, Happend. He chose a server to come and hack in (supposedly) He was banned and amx_hacked. As states our servers MOTD, "By connecting to this server, you are giving permission to allow an admin to run commands on your client." this is not word for word. But this is the best NON dumb description you will get.
If you dont like the way things go on our server GTFO. That is the fact. If you go to the store buy a brand new video card. Lets say a FX5200. Well we know those things suck period. cant hold 40 fps for crap. and your not happy with it. Do you keep using it? NO. You go back to the store. return it, and get your goddam money back.
If you come on our server. And you dont like it. Please feel free to leave. It is not our duty to tell you the rules, its your duty to read them. So from now on when you join a server make sure to read the rules. and if something happens dont ****!
And so you know, amx_hack only happens to people who are accused and spotted hacking 100% by at least 3 admins. and the only person allowed to use the amx_hack is the server owner tom. If you come on the server hacking and your caught, Well thats your bad.
I have been on many servers. I have been slow hacked on CS i dont know how many times. Its no big deal. Just delete ur config, and reset the keys. Rates you should know how to fix. Or if you want ill make you a Anti Slowhack script for amxx if that would make you happy!
You guys need to stop raggin on our community and server. You don't Know us. You dont know what happend. You dont know what we do, Let alone how we do it. Im not here to rag on you guys. Im here to state that this stupid childish **** about how someone is in cal means that they are 1337 and crap is stupid. So they are a great player. Doesnt mean that they wont hack. Maybe he felt like hacking, or someone told him its real fun. So he decided to get a hack, change his name. and go into a random server.
The funniest thing is, That is what hackers do. we load up our hacks. we join up a random server. Usually amx_who to see what admins are on etc. and we have our fun. after a ban we either stop playing or move onto the next server.
I play NS regular. i have hacked on it before. No big whoop i got banned off a server or 2. <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> It happens. If you were hacking, You got caught, And slow hacked. Than that is your bad. dont come to the community and start something because you were caught doing something.
As i have stated before once i get his steamid i will try to get the demo. As of this time, you all need to stop trying to rag on us for something you know nothing about. Approach this topic like adults. Not like children.
<!--QuoteBegin-NeonKnight+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NeonKnight)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> insert big post <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
ya know, you make a lot of very good points. as a fellow admin, i would be reacting the very same way. i retract all my previous statements until i see a demo
Our host has been down for a while ask shunt about that one.
/|/,,/O,O/,,/|/
Would be the name you used in the server. Im the one that spotted you and reported admins to come in, As i dont have the power to ban kick etc. just my say commands.
I also have the demo. its about 3.65 megs. I have zipped it and got it down to like 750. im uploading it now. ill edit this post with a dl link soon. and anyone else that can rehost it somewhere plz do as SBC doesnt give a lot of bandwith.
<!--QuoteBegin-Drummer+Jan 28 2005, 04:44 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Drummer @ Jan 28 2005, 04:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ill re-host, i have college webspace to use. craploads of bandwidth <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> thanks drummer i appreciate it
I never play with my name in pubs, I hardly do in scrims <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Well thats only the alien demo. wih a lil bit of lookspring and target lock. i think i got a rine demo of him in here somewhere... too many demos of crap. im looking through them now.
to tell the truth i looked through 14 demos and none are him : / so say your opinion. But i wish i just got him when he was on rine with the jetpack. but i was busy doing something else prob.
Yeah I remember that I was clobbering those fades with jp hmg, was great fun seeing the fades couldnt even swipe me once <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
eh, are you reffering to models that i have changed that you need to watch a demo??? well if thats the case lets have valve refine how demos work....
anyways, um. Only models i have changed, Gnome. Doom2 shotty. a high polygone HMG blue muzzle flash red skulls spores. etc. all from NSA everything i have is from NSA mostly. I also have The aliens the movie aliens skins, Which just look tight. and i love the blue Hive sight. stuff thing.
Ok im kinda outta it right now. but yea this is what i got. ima go pass out for a bit.
yeah, not hacking. thats just skill. if you watch his CAL demos, you will see a lot of stull like that, from him, the rest of his team, and the oposing team.
this is amazing. please post some of the so-called hacker demos here (or, alternatively, /msg TOmekki on irc.gamesurge.net) to get some sense into this. not speedhacks thx.
i visit a lot of servers but yours is by far the most filled up with whining little kids that i've seen in a long time.
<!--QuoteBegin-Drummer+Jan 28 2005, 11:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Drummer @ Jan 28 2005, 11:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> yeah, not hacking. thats just skill. if you watch his CAL demos, you will see a lot of stull like that, from him, the rest of his team, and the oposing team. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> The obvious conclusion is "all clanners hack!".
<!--QuoteBegin-Align+Jan 28 2005, 05:36 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Align @ Jan 28 2005, 05:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Drummer+Jan 28 2005, 11:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Drummer @ Jan 28 2005, 11:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> yeah, not hacking. thats just skill. if you watch his CAL demos, you will see a lot of stull like that, from him, the rest of his team, and the oposing team. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> The obvious conclusion is "all clanners hack!". <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> no, we must settle for a comphromise (sp?): all clanners hack ON PUBS
<!--QuoteBegin-tom+Jan 28 2005, 05:38 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (tom @ Jan 28 2005, 05:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Thats funny considering I never seen you on the server even once.. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> i was just there, played a round or two as marines on co_faceoff, and frankly that did it for me.
No no no. You all have it wrong. All clanners use Wallhacks in Cal <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> not aimbots. Just wall hacks heh. and i can prove 14 teams of Cal-o and 1 team of Cal-i back in CS that used to use them. if i still have those IRC chats i saved hehe. but ne ways. not all clanners hack. But everyone has their blacksheep.
Also lets not turn into a fat flame war. What was posted is there. let everyone decide. lets not start some more childish crap plz. Remember Handle this like adults.
If it comes to be a flame war can i plz get a Mod to lock it at that time? thanks
Anthing below this post should only be about the demo. nothing more. Your review of demo and thats all.
a_civilianLikes seeing numbersJoin Date: 2003-01-08Member: 12041Members, NS1 Playtester, Playtest Lead
edited January 2005
Honestly, that [demo] didn't even look remotely suspicious to me. No target locking, few snap-ons (which can easily be explained as twitch shots), and many instances of overcompensation.
<!--QuoteBegin-NeonKnight+Jan 28 2005, 05:41 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NeonKnight @ Jan 28 2005, 05:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> No no no. You all have it wrong. All clanners use Wallhacks in Cal <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> not aimbots. Just wall hacks heh. and i can prove 14 teams of Cal-o and 1 team of Cal-i back in CS that used to use them. if i still have those IRC chats i saved hehe. but ne ways. not all clanners hack. But everyone has their blacksheep <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> that's a pretty tough accusation, i suggest you back it up somehow (that relates to NS as well) or your case is pretty much null. this applies to chez also.
<!--QuoteBegin-tom+Jan 28 2005, 05:40 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (tom @ Jan 28 2005, 05:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> There was no one complaining.. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> maybe youve grown so used to it u dont notice, that or you only apprehend voice communication in-game.
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Well yes, where is this conclusive evidence?
Have you ever stopped to think, that Maybe. Just maybe. Someone wanted to try to hack. Wanted to see what its like, Learn how it works? i guess you didnt did you.
Lets put it this way, You HAVE seen demos of him playing. But you havent seen the demo of him playing on our server! have you ever flipping though of that? NO! so before you all want to hype up, and defend him how about you see evidence first. Providing that i can get my hands on it. What happend, Happend. He chose a server to come and hack in (supposedly) He was banned and amx_hacked. As states our servers MOTD, "By connecting to this server, you are giving permission to allow an admin to run commands on your client." this is not word for word. But this is the best NON dumb description you will get.
If you dont like the way things go on our server GTFO. That is the fact. If you go to the store buy a brand new video card. Lets say a FX5200. Well we know those things suck period. cant hold 40 fps for crap. and your not happy with it. Do you keep using it? NO. You go back to the store. return it, and get your goddam money back.
If you come on our server. And you dont like it. Please feel free to leave. It is not our duty to tell you the rules, its your duty to read them. So from now on when you join a server make sure to read the rules. and if something happens dont ****!
And so you know, amx_hack only happens to people who are accused and spotted hacking 100% by at least 3 admins. and the only person allowed to use the amx_hack is the server owner tom. If you come on the server hacking and your caught, Well thats your bad.
I have been on many servers. I have been slow hacked on CS i dont know how many times. Its no big deal. Just delete ur config, and reset the keys. Rates you should know how to fix. Or if you want ill make you a Anti Slowhack script for amxx if that would make you happy!
You guys need to stop raggin on our community and server. You don't Know us. You dont know what happend. You dont know what we do, Let alone how we do it. Im not here to rag on you guys. Im here to state that this stupid childish **** about how someone is in cal means that they are 1337 and crap is stupid. So they are a great player. Doesnt mean that they wont hack. Maybe he felt like hacking, or someone told him its real fun. So he decided to get a hack, change his name. and go into a random server.
The funniest thing is, That is what hackers do. we load up our hacks. we join up a random server. Usually amx_who to see what admins are on etc. and we have our fun. after a ban we either stop playing or move onto the next server.
I play NS regular. i have hacked on it before. No big whoop i got banned off a server or 2. <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> It happens. If you were hacking, You got caught, And slow hacked. Than that is your bad. dont come to the community and start something because you were caught doing something.
As i have stated before once i get his steamid i will try to get the demo. As of this time, you all need to stop trying to rag on us for something you know nothing about. Approach this topic like adults. Not like children.
End of story. Untill evidence is shown.
<a href='http://marineshideout.nssource.co.uk/forum/' target='_blank'>http://marineshideout.nssource.co.uk/forum/</a>
<!--QuoteBegin-NeonKnight+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NeonKnight)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
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ya know, you make a lot of very good points. as a fellow admin, i would be reacting the very same way. i retract all my previous statements until i see a demo
GG NeonKnight
Our host has been down for a while ask shunt about that one.
/|/,,/O,O/,,/|/
Would be the name you used in the server. Im the one that spotted you and reported admins to come in, As i dont have the power to ban kick etc. just my say commands.
I also have the demo. its about 3.65 megs. I have zipped it and got it down to like 750. im uploading it now. ill edit this post with a dl link soon. and anyone else that can rehost it somewhere plz do as SBC doesnt give a lot of bandwith.
<a href='http://www.geocities.com/jeffsmithx4@sbcglobal.net/noon.zip' target='_blank'>http://www.geocities.com/jeffsmithx4@sbcglobal.net/noon.zip</a><a href='http://www.geocities.com/jeffsmithx4@sbcglobal.net/noon.zip' target='_blank'>Chez Demo</a>
and also. For anyone that thinks i might be bsing
<a href='http://teamplay.epicstats.com/player.php?id=109' target='_blank'>http://teamplay.epicstats.com/player.php?id=109</a>
go there also. thats his steam Id from his clan website. so i wonder why hes using a diffrent name in the server : / i wonder i wonder.
<a href='http://www.rit.edu/~jlh4550/noon.zip' target='_blank'>LINKY</a>
thanks drummer i appreciate it
[EDIT] Or, is there an in-game server I can download them from?
anyways, um. Only models i have changed, Gnome. Doom2 shotty. a high polygone HMG blue muzzle flash red skulls spores. etc. all from NSA everything i have is from NSA mostly. I also have The aliens the movie aliens skins, Which just look tight. and i love the blue Hive sight. stuff thing.
Ok im kinda outta it right now. but yea this is what i got. ima go pass out for a bit.
all speedhacks
i visit a lot of servers but yours is by far the most filled up with whining little kids that i've seen in a long time.
The obvious conclusion is "all clanners hack!".
The obvious conclusion is "all clanners hack!". <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
no, we must settle for a comphromise (sp?): all clanners hack ON PUBS
i was just there, played a round or two as marines on co_faceoff, and frankly that did it for me.
Also lets not turn into a fat flame war. What was posted is there. let everyone decide. lets not start some more childish crap plz. Remember Handle this like adults.
If it comes to be a flame war can i plz get a Mod to lock it at that time? thanks
Anthing below this post should only be about the demo. nothing more. Your review of demo and thats all.
that's a pretty tough accusation, i suggest you back it up somehow (that relates to NS as well) or your case is pretty much null. this applies to chez also.
maybe youve grown so used to it u dont notice, that or you only apprehend voice communication in-game.