Would It Be Considered Cheating...

Vash · November 2002

I have only one problem with NS...every map is freakin dark as all darkness with extra dark on it and in some places i cant see ANYTHING. Would it be considered an exploit or cheating if i used a skin for the marines that was brighter? im not talking like bright neon pink, but just something i can actually see o_o

Vecdran · November 2002

sorta

Bish0p · November 2002

Why do you ask us? Its not like we can stop you. We wouldnt of cared/known if you wouldve used neon pink skins in the first place.

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bathory · November 2002

why don't you just turn your gamma up

Knuke · November 2002

Some people have this problem, its not the maps... For me and many others the maps are nice and clear, i personally can see great.

blue2k · November 2002

yeah i know what you mean man, on my old comp my monitor was on its way out. everything was really really dark, i had to download a gamma adjusting program from google just to see my desktop. maybe that would help you. reskinned models would also help you but your not seeing ns the way the dev team intended it to be. and that seems a shame.

JdeFalconr · November 2002

Mmm in my humble opinion, yes I think it's considered cheating. If you fix the darkness problem simply by downloading a gamma fix or fiddling with your monitor's settings then I'd say that's ok but reskinning models can be a bad idea, especially in situations where darkness is meant to be a hindrance. I remember seeing CS models with huge red lines going out from every side so you could see them behind boxes, around corners, etc. Now this isn't quite so bad as that but I'd put it in the same category of exploits.

0n0s-ZiLLa · November 2002

no it wouldnt be cheating u could make them like white by reskining them

0see3 · November 2002

onos, that IS cheating, fyi. Fullbright skins have always been a cheat, in any game, in any mod, i don't care where or what you play, it's considered cheating.

Now, finding skins that don't take such a dark color, which don't blend in as much, but are actual skins, not just bright red or blue, isn't cheating. They may be easier to see, but then again, i use blackened skins, and they're harder to see...

Soulja-Rags · November 2002

I would think so.

Unit · November 2002

Man...this is the ONLY game that I have played, where I actually turn DOWN my gamma and brightness, just to get myself even more into the 'atmosphere'. Especially if I play as marines I make sure dark corners/dark ceilings are PURE BLACK for me, so that I can scare the living crap out of myself...I'm SURE somebody else in here does that too.

I think a good idea for the dev. team would be to offer different colored skins for the models i.e. black/red/blue/green marine, and then lock the model and skin so anybody who's not using the default ones cannot play. That way people have a certain variety to choose from while not giving themselves an unfair advantage.

BlackPanther · November 2002

Unless NS hardcodes the models, it can't be considered a cheat.

No_Girl_Representative · November 2002

you can always make the map lighter

BlackPanther · November 2002

You can't really change the map's lighting without recompiling.
Changing your monitor's contrast and adjusting the gamma is really the best way to fix your problem.

Elbo · November 2002

Correct me if I'm wrong, but here is what I know/think:
When using white skins, the models themselves don't lighten up that much.
If there is no light in a particular corner, the skin would be more darkened as well (real-time lightning)
I don't know if this is true, but I know for a fact that when the arctic model in cs (that phase is over now though <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'>) goes crouching in a dark corner he is quite difficult to see (even though his skin is mostly white).
It does give you an unfair advantage over other players, but that's not nessecarily cheating.
Scripts also give you a advantage over other players, but everybody has accepted that.
I do think that white or other bright skins are lame though, and I advice you not to use them.

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