Hl2 1.7 Million Copies
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Join Date: 2004-06-07 Member: 29165Members
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<div class="IPBDescription">what you think?</div> I just read the article from the news post on PHL <a href='http://www.gameshout.com/news/012005/article368.htm' target='_blank'>http://www.gameshout.com/news/012005/article368.htm</a>
it basically says that hl2 fell short of expected retail sales compare to Halo 2, and states that the Halo 2 movie developed by microsoft will boost more H2 sales. I also read the comments posted and its a mix of "I hate steam" "i hate console noobs" and "Valve's riding on HL1"
My personal opinion goes along with some of the comments on PHL, is that HL2 needs time. You can only play Halo 2 so many times before getting sick of the ending. But with HL2 there are already some great mods out. As for hardware, it wil take some time for dx9 video cards and cpu's to go down, so we shouldnt expect a booming sale record right away. HL2 isnt HL1.
it basically says that hl2 fell short of expected retail sales compare to Halo 2, and states that the Halo 2 movie developed by microsoft will boost more H2 sales. I also read the comments posted and its a mix of "I hate steam" "i hate console noobs" and "Valve's riding on HL1"
My personal opinion goes along with some of the comments on PHL, is that HL2 needs time. You can only play Halo 2 so many times before getting sick of the ending. But with HL2 there are already some great mods out. As for hardware, it wil take some time for dx9 video cards and cpu's to go down, so we shouldnt expect a booming sale record right away. HL2 isnt HL1.
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and every one is thinking it is a bad thing.
hells no, it is a good tihng.
it showes that you can use a different meathod for publication!
AH HA!
it specificly says that VUG released their sales numbers, not Valve!
thus it has gota be 1.7 mill boxes sold.
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Ok anyways. I expect more sales coming from HL2; for now, there are almost no mods out there (no real ones such as NS, DoD, whatever else you people play). When these mods <b>do</b> get developed, HL2 sales will skyrocket.
I didn't buy HL2 for the single player. I bought it for the MP mods that will be coming out in the upcoming months/years.
You cannot compare PC and console sales. The console market, no matter what you may think about it, is the dominant market for game sales. Numerous console games reach 1 million + copies in a year without batting an eye. Huge successes like GTA:SA and Halo 2 sell multiple millions of copies. There are over 80 million PS2s, I believe, and while there's undoubtedly more PCs, you can be damn sure that those 80 million will be buying games.
PC titles, on the other hand, are a huge success if they even get to the high hundreds of thousands. Even if these HL2 numbers are including Steam, that is effin' incredible and a huge success within the market. Not to mention for an equally priced third-party game, the developers (but mainly publishers) are getting more $ per copy because they don't have to pay out the console royalties (though I don't believe this applies to Halo due to Microsoft owning Bungie).
Even World of Warcraft, a huge success that had to even be <i>pulled from shelves</i> because the load was so much higher than expected, was about 600k.
Also, on a semi-tangent, don't be too sure about Steam boosting those numbers a whole lot. Without question, Steam sales went well, but you have to remember Steam only reaches an online market familiar with the game. The people you see online at forums such as this or tooling about Bluesnews and Shacknews still represent the minority of PC gaming - the general gamer, even one who played and loved Half-Life and couldn't wait for the sequel, likely had no idea what Steam was until installing it through HL2. On top of that, how many people still are on the Steam hate wagon or just don't trust online transactions still?
To be sure, if Steam sales aren't included they will undoubtedly give a boost, but I highly doubt you'll see sales double or anything so drastic as that.
And 2 of 8, mods won't drive the sales that much. Again, the general gamer that makes up the majority of the market has no idea what a mod is and won't use that as a purchasing point for the game. And those who do anticipate the mods are probably well included in that 1.7 million+ already.
In that case, HL2 would've netted a hundred million bucks in its first two months, and again, it's a very certain backlist seller. If those figures are disheartening, I think I should aim to be disappointed a little more often.
My roommate will still tell me that Halo 2 is better than HL2, even though he's played both... even though he hasn't played Halo 2 in a month.
It doesnt all go it has to pay peoples wages as well as develope new games etc.
Well it was more the end product of like 7 years work...
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The guy who wrote it runs www.halflifesource.com and www.halfliferadio.com.
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Yes, so he is clearly a Halo 2 fanboy.
As far as i'm concerned, you can throw a thousand articles at me saying how Halo 2 outsold Half-Life 2, you can add in to the mix tales of steam woes and disappointments, but that doesn't change the fact that i thought Halo 2 was an awful game and Half-Life 2 rocked my pirate skull n crossbones boxers off one iota.
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Bah... My attempt to drown this thread in a HL2 Vs Halo2 flame war has been foiled!
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Yes, so he is clearly a Halo 2 fanboy.
As far as i'm concerned, you can throw a thousand articles at me saying how Halo 2 outsold Half-Life 2, you can add in to the mix tales of steam woes and disappointments, but that doesn't change the fact that i thought Halo 2 was an awful game and Half-Life 2 rocked my pirate skull n crossbones boxers off one iota. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
<i><u><b>Exactly</b></u></i>
There may be some people who believe that halo 2 is a better game. there may even be some people who agree with them.
under normal circumstance, i would say "everyone is entitled to an opinion" but saying that halo 2 is better than HL2 is a <b>crime</b> against humanity
Change your ways, heathens! lest ye be smitten down by all that is holy!
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Yes, so he is clearly a Halo 2 fanboy.
As far as i'm concerned, you can throw a thousand articles at me saying how Halo 2 outsold Half-Life 2, you can add in to the mix tales of steam woes and disappointments, but that doesn't change the fact that i thought Halo 2 was an awful game and Half-Life 2 rocked my pirate skull n crossbones boxers off one iota. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
this is very true
the main arguement i have against the halo 2 fanboys (i havent played halo 2 yet so i got nothing else) is that in 6 months to a year they will still be playing "halo 2" but we will have hl2 svencoop and all the other great mods
LOL !SETINFO
Uh...
Anyway. Yeah.
Doomeh, according to Gabe himself, every dollar from HL1. Minus up to 30% for getting a new car etc (I don't think he was in a dire need of money seeing as he is a former Microsoft employee). That's a lot of cash.
EDIT: Faust, I'm fairly sure a lot of the hl2 and cs:s players have relatively old cards. I use a Geforce 3 and get an acceptable framerate. Far more than acceptable considering the age of the card.
I comparably have a poor pc, I am waiting for the NV45 6800 GTs to hit Canada at a reasonable price till I invest fully into a new rig. Till then, I haven't even purchased HL2 yet!
Halo 2 is a console title, it runs on one platform. No one with an xbox has to worry about doing a complete overhaul on their xbox, becuase Halo 2 is developed specifically for it!
This might be a little presumptious, but was a majority of the sales forcast based on players moving from Hl1 to HL2?
The absolute majority of half life players are counter-strike players. Last time I checked, 76000 HL players were playing counterstrike. Compare that to a measly 15000 players playing cs:s. Honestly, other then not owning HL2, the really only thing thats stopping cs players moving to source is system requirements.
I'm sure we'll see sales figures get better, and better as new hardware comes out, and the current stuff gets cheaper and cheaper!
valve made it so you could run the game fine with the low system requirements but if you upgrade your computer youd see the extra details