Old Maps Vs New Maps

RazorWingRazorWing Join Date: 2005-01-11 Member: 34861Members
<div class="IPBDescription">3.0 Beta 5 Maps vs 3.0 Final Maps</div> Hi,
I have been looking forward to 3.0 final for a very long time and when i got it installed and actually started playing i was disappointed until it came to some of my favorite maps being altered. I love the new maps they have put it but i dont like the way they have editted or altered the old maps in 3.0 Beta 5, the maps in in 3.0 Beta 5 for the CO are great, im mainly an alien player myself but i have been on the YO clan server for a few days playing alot and i asked everyone what do they think of about the new maps, everyone perfers the old style of maps.

All the other features which 3.0 fial has brought to us as gamers are great, its just the whole map issues, everyone loved the 3.0 Beta 5 maps and thought they were great.

Im not sure what can be done but if a vote was started im sure you would get a good result on the old maps.

Comments

  • Blue_MaryBlue_Mary Join Date: 2004-08-26 Member: 30921Members
    The co_maps that were updated, in my opinion, needed it, especially co_core and the new vent. However, the only map I feel that should have become a new map is the new co_daimos.

    As far as ns_maps updates, it differs from map to map. Personally, I like the new eclipse, but dislike the new hera.

    Mixed replies all over. I'd play the newer maps though, all because of the love for learning new things, and because they should be more 'fair', since they're later versions.
  • KungFuDiscoMonkeyKungFuDiscoMonkey Creator of ns_altair 日本福岡県 Join Date: 2003-03-15 Member: 14555Members, NS1 Playtester, Reinforced - Onos
    If there's things you don't like, you should give us specifics so we can possibly do something about it. We can't do anything without some specifics.
  • OlljOllj our themepark-stalking nightmare Fade Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10696Members
    grats to the co mapchanges:
    one map got a bigger readyroom than the map itself <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    another map "slightly changed" ...
    but not much <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Maintenance got some nice additions and marine spawn is now good and doorless.
    ...
  • GrendelGrendel All that is fear... Join Date: 2002-07-19 Member: 970Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, NS2 Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin-KungFuDiscoMonkey+Mar 8 2005, 12:54 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (KungFuDiscoMonkey @ Mar 8 2005, 12:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If there's things you don't like, you should give us specifics so we can possibly do something about it. We can't do anything without some specifics. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Quoted for truth. And to show solidarity with the mappers who are completely taken for granted by the community.
  • ReD1ReD1 Join Date: 2004-03-18 Member: 27406Members, Constellation
    Imo, i find all the new maps better than b5 maps, and i love that the maps are now darker. ns_veil looks so much better now that its darker.
  • ghamgham United Kingdom Join Date: 2003-05-01 Member: 15991Members
    The new daimos is shocking, its really dull and should have been a new map if it had to be included. It hardly seems like an update.

    co_niveus is another I don't like personally - should be called co_vent? Don't like the general appearance of the map and how its laid out.
  • adi0adi0 Join Date: 2004-10-07 Member: 32142Members
    i don't know what to think of new alien start on co_sava. i always wanted it tweaked so rines can't camp spawnkilling, but when i finally got it i somehow miss the tension while waiting to respawn and leap right away from rines crossfire <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • ZavaroZavaro Tucson, Arizona Join Date: 2005-02-14 Member: 41174Members, Super Administrators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Playtester, NS2 Community Developer, Pistachionauts
    A simple thing to do is to rename lets say... co_angst for beta 5 to co_angstv3 and stick it in your ns/maps directory. Thats what I did and I play it (with bots) on my server quite frequently, as well as old.. favorites.. like rebirth from older versions, and agora which was taken out for some reason?
  • typical_skeletontypical_skeleton Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13944Members
    edited March 2005
    Just for some clarification... <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->everyone perfers the old style of maps<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    A small group of players on one server does not count as "everyone", maybe it's not what you meant... but still, the post loses a lot of meaning when it attempts to make very broad statements and then fails to specify problems, or make suggestions.

    it's really without purpose.
  • ShadowcatShadowcat Join Date: 2003-01-18 Member: 12443Members
    co_daimos scares me.. I loved the original.. Now there is something smaller and darker with a poor remake of the sewer..


    That ladder down in the sewer above marine spawn is so thick you can see that it's a 2d texture covering it... eek.
  • theclamtheclam Join Date: 2004-08-01 Member: 30290Members
    The new daimos looks like 1/2 funmap, 1/2 official map. I don't know why they think it's an upgrade to the old daimos. I don't even know what was wrong with the old daimos, besides the fact that the marines can lob grenades into the hive from really far away.
  • CroftanatorCroftanator Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1437Members
    Bring back old co_daimos - the new version blows. PG is way too easy to open and the other two routes are tat. Very boring now. Plus the texturing blows.
  • GoDlolGoDlol Join Date: 2005-01-08 Member: 33703Members
    I think the new maps are overall designed better for balance then they were before, psj on eclipse is almost impossible to take down in competetive play, it might be too alien friendly.
  • SpazmaticSpazmatic Join Date: 2003-05-10 Member: 16184Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->And to show solidarity with the mappers who are completely taken for granted by the community.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Mappers. WE LOVE YOU. Especially KFS, we love you extra-hard.

    I think a lot of the changes were very nice. Daimos was, as people say, a fairly dramatic change... I'm not sure I'm ever going to quite get used to how dark it is, but I absolutely LOVE the elevator. It could use some vent access points though, to further the "omigod, going down a deathtrap elevator" sensation. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Still, it doesn't "feel" like Daimos anymore, even if the layout is similar.

    co_core is a little odd with the huge readyroom. I mean, it's awesome and all, but I must say it's kind of strange to have a readyroom bigger than the map.

    Finally, I must say something about Eclipse... I'm still calling T-Junction Horseshoe, and I probably will for another year. Watch, when 4.0 rolls around, all the newbies will be going, "WTH? What's Horseshoe?" and I'll still be screaming. Hmph.
  • master_wongmaster_wong Join Date: 2004-11-05 Member: 32649Members
    every1 have high standard on the official maps, and i believe this would be calmed down if they make the game come with 50 maps (just get from good user made maps)...
  • ssjyodassjyoda Join Date: 2002-03-05 Member: 274Members, Squad Five Blue
    Spazmatic u do know KFS is gone and it was MrBen that did the updates for eclipse/veil/nothing, not KFS.
  • JaneJane Seriously&#33;? Join Date: 2003-07-01 Member: 17835Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-KungFuDiscoMonkey+Mar 8 2005, 06:54 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (KungFuDiscoMonkey @ Mar 8 2005, 06:54 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If there's things you don't like, you should give us specifics so we can possibly do something about it. We can't do anything without some specifics. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    it's not your map that is the problem <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • JaneJane Seriously&#33;? Join Date: 2003-07-01 Member: 17835Members, Constellation
    edited March 2005
    lag / dbl post, sorry
  • AposApos Join Date: 2003-06-14 Member: 17369Members, Constellation
    I agree that something feels... wrong about the new daimos. I'm not exactly enamored about the changes to the co map that used to have the hive that resembled the old bast hive engine (confusing enough?)
  • SpazmaticSpazmatic Join Date: 2003-05-10 Member: 16184Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Spazmatic u do know KFS is gone and it was MrBen that did the updates for eclipse/veil/nothing, not KFS.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Yes. Notice that I actually don't like most of the changes to Eclipse, for example. I miss Horseshoe. I just thought I'd throw it out there cuz, well, I still love Eclipse anyways. Just the basic design behind those maps makes me weep with joy.

    Yeah, I'm a little crazy, I guess. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • KurvyKurvy Join Date: 2005-03-15 Member: 45406Members, Constellation
    Yea. Overall i miss the old maps, like ns_bast, oh man.. old bast where the hell did you wander off too <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->. I hate the new bast..it's so diff from the old one.. the revolving door.. the elevator.. GOD! All of it has been revised WAH!
  • amnesiacamnesiac Join Date: 2004-11-03 Member: 32619Members
    My only concernes with mapping/mappers is they don't really take into consideration balance / competitive players *for the most part* The aesthetic value is there, the fun is there, but really what counts for alot of the maps isn't.
  • MrBenMrBen ns_eclipse, ns_veil caretaker Join Date: 2002-11-14 Member: 8575Members
    I already fixed psj, dog.
  • TOmekkiTOmekki Join Date: 2003-11-25 Member: 23524Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-MrBen+Mar 16 2005, 07:18 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MrBen @ Mar 16 2005, 07:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I already fixed psj, dog. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    tell us more!
  • MrBenMrBen ns_eclipse, ns_veil caretaker Join Date: 2002-11-14 Member: 8575Members
    Tell me more, tell me more like did he have a car, tell me more, tell me more, did you get very far? ohh bababa ohh bababa ohh bababa yeeaaaah... I met a girl... crazy for me... i met a boy, cute as could be!

    SUMMER DREAMS, DRIFTING AWAY.... OOOOOOOH... BUT THE SUMMMMMMMMMARRRRR NIIIIIIIIIGEGHHGHGHGHGHTTSSSSSS.
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