Aliens Are Too Weak!

Def · November 2002

most people think aliens are too strong, i disagree, i think they are too weak! (this is comming from a 100% marine player)

EVERY time i command a game (from begining to end), Marines always win. I think this is very unfair, and due to my skill as a commander, i suggest you make the Aliens stronger so that i actually have a challenege. j/k <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'>

Actually, i think NS is balanced PERFECTLY right now. Half the people think Aliens are too strong, and the other half think the Marines are too strong. Thats 50/50, therefor its ballanced. I just read a thread where some guy said Aliens win 8/10 games, right....you must have the newbiest commanders in the world, learn to use the eject button if the commander sucks.

So, i plead to the NS dev team that they do NOT change the balance a whole lot because it is balanced perfectly well.

xioutlawix · November 2002

LOL, 50% thinking one side is unbalanced and the other 50% thinking the other side is unbalanced makes the entire game balanced? Wooboy...

TheHornet · November 2002

i say aliens are too strong now... it was perfect before... then they made aliens stronger because no one knew how to play aliens and was complaing... then for a few days it was good, but now i think aliens are too good... but maybe i'm just not playing against good marines... i dunno

Mr_Bean · November 2002

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>LOL, 50% thinking one side is unbalanced and the other 50% thinking the other side is unbalanced makes the entire game balanced? Wooboy... </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Indeed that is the So Called "Golden Mean" Logic Fallicy IE that the truth has to lie somewhere in the middle

In laymens terms

If I say 20 Resources for Siege Turrets and he says sixty, The truth is NOT at 40

Eidolan · November 2002

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mr Bean @ Nov 17 2002, 01:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>LOL, 50% thinking one side is unbalanced and the other 50% thinking the other side is unbalanced makes the entire game balanced? Wooboy... </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Indeed that is the So Called "Golden Mean" Logic Fallicy IE that the truth has to lie somewhere in the middle

In laymens terms

If I say 20 Resources for Siege Turrets and he says sixty, The truth is NOT at 40</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
well said, I think its all about the commander, but dose't it seem unfair that the marines need a pro player in-oder to win and the bugs can be a buch of noobs and skulk rush and win if the commander sucks?

Gelantious · November 2002

They are balanced,

I just played two games. First as Marine, that game we won. Then as Alien, and guess what, We won that one too.

So it balanced. OR its the map that gives one of the teams a better chance.
Like som maps have very little o no Wents at all. This cripples the Aliens Big Time.

SR-Heretic · November 2002

I have no idea what servers you play on, but the aliens are usually the winners, and we all know what we're doing. The imbalance in 1.01 isn't as bad as I thought it was when it was first released, but I think that the aliens have a decent advantage now. All i want to see is either turrets being cheaper OR not being dependant one the factory. The other problem is every single marine weapon is not worth the price paid for it. (except the welder) So it's mainly an econcomical problem now, because the marines tended to win all the time in 1.0 not just because of Kharaa inexperience, but because of the problem where resources were being altered from server to server, not because of an imbalance.

APESHTkser · November 2002

Maybe its the servers I play on, but the Aliens win at least 9 out of 10 times. Skulks with Caraspace and Celerity can easily take out any Marine attempt at expansion and the Marines end up with no resources for upgrades/weapons, and are unable to hold 2 Alien hives simultaneously. Once Aliens have Fades and Marines don't have enough resources to provide HA, HMGs/GLs it is game over Aliens win. Unfortunately its getting a little boring because this seems to be the course of EVERY game I play. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='sad.gif'>

NS is the best mod I've seen for HL yet, but I can't believe people think it is balanced.

BTW- I do play both sides equal amounts.

What servers do you play on? I want to see Marines win (maybe people I play with just suck at Marines <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wow.gif'> )

Def · November 2002

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ([APESH!T]kser @ Nov 17 2002, 01:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Maybe its the servers I play on, but the Aliens win at least 9 out of 10 times. Skulks with Caraspace and Celerity can easily take out any Marine attempt at expansion and the Marines end up with no resources for upgrades/weapons, and are unable to hold 2 Alien hives simultaneously. Once Aliens have Fades and Marines don't have enough resources to provide HA, HMGs/GLs it is game over Aliens win. Unfortunately its getting a little boring because this seems to be the course of EVERY game I play. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='sad.gif'>

NS is the best mod I've seen for HL yet, but I can't believe people think it is balanced.

BTW- I do play both sides equal amounts.

What servers do you play on? I want to see Marines win (maybe people I play with just suck at Marines <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wow.gif'> )</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
66.224.5.73:27015

if anyone plays on a server where aliens win ALOT of the time, then i suggest you change servers because it must be a n00b server.

Shadowics · November 2002

Aliens are easier to win because they require less teamwork. Marine has to all wrok together and have to all listen to the comm and not argue about weapons. That's why the aliens seem to win more and be unbalanced. Between seige turrets and GLs and whatnot, if the marines know what they're doing they can win just as easily. What usually happens is the marines turtle up with turrets in their main base, and the game becomes like a stalemate, the aliens slowly pushing in but it takes forever.

This isn't fun for the marines because they're trapped in their base and are going to end up losing eventually.
This isn't fun for the aliens because they have to just keep doing suicide runs against the marine instead of being able to ambush them in hallways.

So why do people keep doing it?

Aliens Are Too Weak!

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