A skin is the 2D image you wrap around a 3D model so that it has texture and color and doesn't look like a solid white peice of crap. Skins are done by meshing a 3D model to create a 2D map of all the surfaces on the model, so without a 3D model you have no mesh, and therefore no skin.
What you appear to have drawn is a concept scetch, in extreamly rough form. No one really cares about your penciled rough scetches, and it isn't THAT much work to create a proper concept out of a rough sketch in PS or GIMP, so in the future I would recommend you not post concepts unless you have worked them up properly and even then, concepts belong in <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showforum=47' target='_blank'>this</a> forum.
Also your sig is too big. Max size of 400x75 pixles with a file size of 22kb.
here is a pic from internet b/c im too lazy to take a pic of it with digi cam. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> i like the clean design of that i may model it sometime
I am Very offended swift. i did not ask for intimidation and i never said it was a skin. i asked simply if The People wanted me to make that drawing a skin. that drawing took me no more than 2 minutes it is not a drawing that takes much skill and i know that. please take your ignorance elsewhere.
yep thats the knife but! mine is pure silver and the grip is black rubber! ^_^ so far ive gotten good feedbacks from the nsa krew so its official it shouldnt take more than 2 to 3 days because im very busy.
<!--QuoteBegin-Panguins+Mar 28 2005, 01:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Panguins @ Mar 28 2005, 01:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I am Very offended swift. i did not ask for intimidation and i never said it was a skin. i asked simply if The People wanted me to make that drawing a skin. that drawing took me no more than 2 minutes it is not a drawing that takes much skill and i know that. please take your ignorance elsewhere.
yep thats the knife but! mine is pure silver and the grip is black rubber! ^_^ so far ive gotten good feedbacks from the nsa krew so its official it shouldnt take more than 2 to 3 days because im very busy. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Well as far as modelling goes i don't see that being more than a half hour's work, skinmeshing probably about 15 minutes and skinning could be done in about another hour.
Knock yourself out, do it.
EDIT: Also, swift is right, the skin of a model is merely a texture painted ontop of a skinmesh. A skinmesh is a 2d representation of 3d coordinates to allow for ease of skinning. The word you're looking for is "a model" or "modelling" not skin or skinning. Whilst this might be seen as pedantic, it's just plain irritating seeing people use the wrong terminology.
<!--QuoteBegin-Panguins+Mar 28 2005, 08:11 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Panguins @ Mar 28 2005, 08:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I am Very offended swift. i did not ask for intimidation and i never said it was a skin. i asked simply if The People wanted me to make that drawing a skin. that drawing took me no more than 2 minutes it is not a drawing that takes much skill and i know that. please take your ignorance elsewhere.
yep thats the knife but! mine is pure silver and the grip is black rubber! ^_^ so far ive gotten good feedbacks from the nsa krew so its official it shouldnt take more than 2 to 3 days because im very busy. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> So you are making it a model then?
Are you going to be skinning it as well? I can't tell what the you are trying to say you are going to/are capable of doing. Also in the NS forums the customs forum is the generally accepted place to post modeling work unless it has no chance of making it to a custom model, then it is really only artwork (like sheenas female marine, while beautiful, is to complicated to be an in game model, and thus belongs here)
Sorry to be pedantic, but you just had me totally confused, and thus I assumed you were a wee bit nub... It looks like it would make a good model, but a scanned concept sketch is not much to form an opinion based off of...
here is a pic from internet b/c im too lazy to take a pic of it with digi cam. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> ol, talk about artistic merit <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-SkinnY+Apr 4 2005, 01:50 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkinnY @ Apr 4 2005, 01:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-esuna+Apr 4 2005, 08:48 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (esuna @ Apr 4 2005, 08:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yeah, i got bored. [snip] <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> heyyy... you didn't skin it ^^ nice model esuna <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I was going to, but then that render took pretty much the same amount of time it took to model it, and i lost my enthieusiasm for it.
<!--QuoteBegin-esuna+Apr 4 2005, 08:56 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (esuna @ Apr 4 2005, 08:56 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-SkinnY+Apr 4 2005, 01:50 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkinnY @ Apr 4 2005, 01:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-esuna+Apr 4 2005, 08:48 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (esuna @ Apr 4 2005, 08:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yeah, i got bored. [snip] <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> heyyy... you didn't skin it ^^ nice model esuna <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I was going to, but then that render took pretty much the same amount of time it took to model it, and i lost my enthieusiasm for it.
I need a new PC. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> well, if you mesh it i'll skin it... <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-SkinnY+Apr 4 2005, 02:00 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkinnY @ Apr 4 2005, 02:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-esuna+Apr 4 2005, 08:56 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (esuna @ Apr 4 2005, 08:56 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-SkinnY+Apr 4 2005, 01:50 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkinnY @ Apr 4 2005, 01:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-esuna+Apr 4 2005, 08:48 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (esuna @ Apr 4 2005, 08:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yeah, i got bored. [snip] <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> heyyy... you didn't skin it ^^ nice model esuna <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I was going to, but then that render took pretty much the same amount of time it took to model it, and i lost my enthieusiasm for it.
I need a new PC. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> well, if you mesh it i'll skin it... <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> If i could be bothered to mesh it, i'd be bothered to skin it.
Meshing's the bit about modelling i hate, it's tedius, boring and doesn't actually have any kind of visual reward, unlike the task of modelling or skinning. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
If you need the model, i can send you it, but the meshes themselves are pretty clear as to what they are. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
The reason behind 2 maps is that this is my first mesh done in 3d studio using the Unwrap UV modifier, and the grip and blade parts were seperate objects, so after unwrapping the grip, i realised i couldn't apply the blade to the same map, so it got put on another. Also, the grey stuff on the first map is where i've started skinning, basically i'm using the original mesh as a guidline over the top of the skin. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
would be nice to have the model, but it's not needed... i'll se what i can do <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Skin progress again, it's not looking too bad actually, i expected it to be crappier. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
But this is without any of the grip done, but the base metal blade is done.
<!--QuoteBegin-esuna+Apr 4 2005, 10:56 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (esuna @ Apr 4 2005, 10:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-SkinnY+Apr 4 2005, 01:50 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkinnY @ Apr 4 2005, 01:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-esuna+Apr 4 2005, 08:48 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (esuna @ Apr 4 2005, 08:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yeah, i got bored. [snip] <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> heyyy... you didn't skin it ^^ nice model esuna <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I was going to, but then that render took pretty much the same amount of time it took to model it, and i lost my enthieusiasm for it.
I need a new PC. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> aaawww.. poor esuna <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> i like it... i got a tanto knife too <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> a hk p2000 tanto black. and seriously..i would use that model
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scan better?
What you appear to have drawn is a concept scetch, in extreamly rough form. No one really cares about your penciled rough scetches, and it isn't THAT much work to create a proper concept out of a rough sketch in PS or GIMP, so in the future I would recommend you not post concepts unless you have worked them up properly and even then, concepts belong in <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showforum=47' target='_blank'>this</a> forum.
Also your sig is too big. Max size of 400x75 pixles with a file size of 22kb.
here is a pic from internet b/c im too lazy to take a pic of it with digi cam.
here is a pic from internet b/c im too lazy to take a pic of it with digi cam. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
i like the clean design of that i may model it sometime
yep thats the knife but! mine is pure silver and the grip is black rubber! ^_^ so far ive gotten good feedbacks from the nsa krew so its official it shouldnt take more than 2 to 3 days because im very busy.
yep thats the knife but! mine is pure silver and the grip is black rubber! ^_^ so far ive gotten good feedbacks from the nsa krew so its official it shouldnt take more than 2 to 3 days because im very busy. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well as far as modelling goes i don't see that being more than a half hour's work, skinmeshing probably about 15 minutes and skinning could be done in about another hour.
Knock yourself out, do it.
EDIT: Also, swift is right, the skin of a model is merely a texture painted ontop of a skinmesh. A skinmesh is a 2d representation of 3d coordinates to allow for ease of skinning. The word you're looking for is "a model" or "modelling" not skin or skinning. Whilst this might be seen as pedantic, it's just plain irritating seeing people use the wrong terminology.
yep thats the knife but! mine is pure silver and the grip is black rubber! ^_^ so far ive gotten good feedbacks from the nsa krew so its official it shouldnt take more than 2 to 3 days because im very busy. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
So you are making it a model then?
Are you going to be skinning it as well? I can't tell what the you are trying to say you are going to/are capable of doing. Also in the NS forums the customs forum is the generally accepted place to post modeling work unless it has no chance of making it to a custom model, then it is really only artwork (like sheenas female marine, while beautiful, is to complicated to be an in game model, and thus belongs here)
Sorry to be pedantic, but you just had me totally confused, and thus I assumed you were a wee bit nub... It looks like it would make a good model, but a scanned concept sketch is not much to form an opinion based off of...
here is a pic from internet b/c im too lazy to take a pic of it with digi cam. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
ol, talk about artistic merit <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
sorry for the wrong term I'm goin to model it
<img src='http://dump.creativeblank.com/kniferender.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
[snip] <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
heyyy... you didn't skin it ^^ nice model esuna <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
[snip] <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
heyyy... you didn't skin it ^^ nice model esuna <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I was going to, but then that render took pretty much the same amount of time it took to model it, and i lost my enthieusiasm for it.
I need a new PC.
[snip] <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
heyyy... you didn't skin it ^^ nice model esuna <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I was going to, but then that render took pretty much the same amount of time it took to model it, and i lost my enthieusiasm for it.
I need a new PC. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
well, if you mesh it i'll skin it... <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
[snip] <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
heyyy... you didn't skin it ^^ nice model esuna <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I was going to, but then that render took pretty much the same amount of time it took to model it, and i lost my enthieusiasm for it.
I need a new PC. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
well, if you mesh it i'll skin it... <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
If i could be bothered to mesh it, i'd be bothered to skin it.
Meshing's the bit about modelling i hate, it's tedius, boring and doesn't actually have any kind of visual reward, unlike the task of modelling or skinning. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Skinny,
<img src='http://dump.creativeblank.com/map1.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
<img src='http://dump.creativeblank.com/map2.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
Yes, 2 maps.
If you need the model, i can send you it, but the meshes themselves are pretty clear as to what they are. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
The reason behind 2 maps is that this is my first mesh done in 3d studio using the Unwrap UV modifier, and the grip and blade parts were seperate objects, so after unwrapping the grip, i realised i couldn't apply the blade to the same map, so it got put on another. Also, the grey stuff on the first map is where i've started skinning, basically i'm using the original mesh as a guidline over the top of the skin. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
But this is without any of the grip done, but the base metal blade is done.
<img src='http://dump.creativeblank.com/skinprogress2.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
[snip] <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
heyyy... you didn't skin it ^^ nice model esuna <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I was going to, but then that render took pretty much the same amount of time it took to model it, and i lost my enthieusiasm for it.
I need a new PC. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
aaawww.. poor esuna <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
i like it... i got a tanto knife too <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> a hk p2000 tanto black.
and seriously..i would use that model
Looks dirty.
Looks sexy. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Fix'd.