20,000 For A Flame Thrower

EPcreep · March 2005

First i am just trying to see if this would be possible i know most flame thrower threads were not long lived. Basicly COULD we have a flamethrower implemented in a upcomming version if $20,000 was raised. If everyon were to donate 1 dollar cept for flayra and nem ect we would have said amount.

So would this be enough for the ft?
and would u members donate 1 dollar for it?

Keyser · March 2005

Yes.

Toothy · March 2005

The engine can't handle a decent flamethrower.

Look at TFC.

Renegade. · March 2005

of course it can, look at BrainBread.

DragonMech · March 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (R e n e g a d e @ Mar 28 2005, 04:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>of course it can, look at BrainBread.</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
No offense intended, but the flame effect in BB is terrible - it's a bunch of red/yellow circles expanding out from the gun. I also doubt it's volumetric. (unless they've changed it recently.)

KungFuDiscoMonkey · March 2005

Send me $20k and I'll start on the flamethrower right now.

ASTROMAN · March 2005

I'm Astroman, pleased to meet you

EPcreep · March 2005

would u pay 1 dollar for a ft thou?

NolSinkler · March 2005

I'd donate.

But in truth, only probably 2,000 of those members are active on the community.

So get everyone to donate $10, instead.

freebirdpat · March 2005

only if it was really good, not just sprites and volumetric

DY357LX · March 2005

What about those players who don't want to see a flame-thrower
in Natural-Selection? It's been talked about alot and it hasn't gotten
in. Now i've never bothered to ask the Dev Team why that is.

Perhaps someone can shed some light on that here, although, I
already have a decent idea why.

EPcreep · March 2005

i guess they could donate money aginst the ft and whoever has the most would get the prize so either way no more ramen for flayra

AlienCow · March 2005

I say you raise the $20,000 anyway and donate it for The Cause.

Flamethrower or no flamethrower.

daidalos · March 2005

I don´t get the sense of that thread? I can hardly imagine, that this will happen :/
I wouldn´t donate, because I don´t know why they should include that? Why unbalance a "balanced" game, when you worked so hard on it? :/
Bye bye thread

Scrap · March 2005

flamethrower lamethrower....it would be to easy to kill aliens then.wouldnt donate because i got myself to feed and i do need food.

Drummer · March 2005

i think flayra himself has mentioned that he wants a flamethrower in NS. he was waiting for source so he could do it

EPcreep · March 2005

because balance = not fun if there was a counter for everything aliens and rines would just tech up then have 1 of each counter and stalemate. And the point was to see if 20,000 was enough and if said members would contribute.

MirageWolf · March 2005

I've got an idea!!!! WE should have a tournament for flamethrower on a server!!

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif' />

Btw, I would donate if i saw i model of the flamethrower

monopolowa · March 2005

problem's with engine constraints - they couldnt make a good looking, good fps, volumetric flamm trougher with the engine. Throwing more money at the devs probably won't be able to fix that...just wait for ns:source

Thansal · March 2005

The flamethrower is not in for one simple reason:

It can't be done right.

Flayra has stated many times that he will ONLY implement it if he can get it to look good, be volumetric, and not kill servers.

Although I am tempted to start a thread in OT of "Donate $1 to Flayra" and see howmany people do....

IBT · March 2005

i would donate, but gusse why i'm not a constie.

Swiftspear · March 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (EPcreep @ Mar 28 2005, 05:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> would u pay 1 dollar for a ft thou?  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
No... But if I can ever get the money to do so I will pay 20$ for a consti icon...

Anyways, I would rather the NS team put in a quality flamethrower because they want it in the game then just settle for a crappy one because they were bribed to do so.

coris · March 2005

I actually wouldn't want a flamethrower in NS. But maybe that's just me.

Xeno · March 2005

this threads a joke right? the poster wasn't serious, was he?

you would honestly raise 20k just to get a flamethrower in the game...............wow.

Cj_the_Dj · March 2005

i would not like a flamethrower in NS. HL1 flamer = teh sucks.

your idea was ok though:

donating level (notice that this is a very dumb name O_o):

$1000 - new feature
$3000 - new feature
$5000- new feature
$10,000- new feature

or something similar. however, i doubt there will be any features to add in the beginning...i mean, everything is taken.

who cares, this is just an idea.

Talesin · March 2005

Short version is, the pseudocode for a volumetric flamethrower has been offered up. It would take up as much network traffic as a single shotgunner firing nonstop. AKA, not much. Transferring the pseudocode into actual code has already been started by community members (mathematical formulae). So the underlying structure for the FT is there.

The problem is, flames on HL1 look like utter crap. And if a FT goes in, Flayra wants it to be mmmmmbeautiful. So once a method for doing proper flame effects has been implemented as well (that won't kill a GF2), a flamethrower would become a real possibility.

Until that point... ain't gonna happen.

PLEASE use the Search function before starting a 'new' topic. I've explained this many, many, many times in previous flamethrower threads.

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20,000 For A Flame Thrower

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