Why Do People Bile Bokmb Marines?
DroneFragger
Join Date: 2005-01-09 Member: 34101Members
Join Date: 2005-01-09 Member: 34101Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Does it do any damage to them?</div> I have seen people bile bombing marines, and i wanted to know if ti does any damage to them. After telling someone it does no damage to rines (because thats what it says on the weapon) He replied that it does damage to armour, and not having anyone helpful enough to let me bilebomb them, or be a rine, and let them bilebomb me, i decided to ask the forums. Also this could be a suggestiion, that bilebombs should destroy armour (armour = metal, metal = structures, so it should do it). any ideas answers, comments etc. etc.?
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Currently (3.02) it does no damage to marines and lifeforms. Only to structures and mines. If you come across a lone gorge bilebombing you feel free to either knife or weld kill him.
no. no. no.
please read the manual next time.
edit: clarify
BileBomb does not hurt lifeforms.
lofung, i think you should clarify, as i have read the manual, Bile bomb does no damage to lifeforms/rines, but what i am asking is, why do other people. Read my post better next time.
I mean sometimes in Co_ u need a web gorge? Right?
Well get this a fade and you vs a hmg marine... omg how can u help fade?
Healspray and get in his way? Dead fade...
Bileboming my friends? (<- OMG BOON!)
Look bilebomb makes a sprite frenzy on the screen giving a few things:
1) Can lag poor computors <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
2) It makes the visible sight on marines computors hard
Ever had a bilebomb in ur face? U will know its hard to see through it... and wen its happening to you and your mates with 3 fades around ur dead...
But lone gorges that bilebomb... there nubs...
Rarely is it an honest to goodness fool who thinks BB will harm them.
To echo the others, no, bb does not harm marines, only structures (and friendly structures if playing FF).
-To blind them
-To make them laugh until they can't see
And skulks and fades are converging on their location.
Marine visibility: -10%
Marine concentration (Marine thinking "Does bilebomb damage me?"): -5%
TOTAL: -15% damage dealt!!!
If you dont trust me, run a test with a friend! Here are some easy steps to follow:
1) Play on CO map
2) The alien kills the marine several times to gain 2 levels
3) Find the average time it takes to die as gorge when using spit
--A) As gorge use only spit while jumping around like crazy around the marine
--B) Record time taken to get killed
--C) Repeat 10 times and take the average.
4) Find the average time it takes to die as gorge using bile bomb
--A) As gorge use only bilebomb while jumping around like crazy around the marine
--B) Record time taken to get killed
--C) Repeat 10 times and take the average.
It is important to keep all variables constant to get a good result. Have the same player play as gorge and the same player play as marine every time. Play on the same map. Both have the same upgrades (MArine-none, gorge-bilebomb only). Play in the same area and start the countdown in the same area.
how did my lovely thread about gorges turn into a statiscal crazed averegifing pojul of formluk?
and no, i don't know if those are real words
Maybe?
Or not.
No. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Marine visibility: -10%
Marine concentration (Marine thinking "Does bilebomb damage me?"): -5%
TOTAL: -15% damage dealt!!!
If you dont trust me, run a test with a friend! Here are some easy steps to follow:
1) Play on CO map
2) The alien kills the marine several times to gain 2 levels
3) Find the average time it takes to die as gorge when using spit
--A) As gorge use only spit while jumping around like crazy around the marine
--B) Record time taken to get killed
--C) Repeat 10 times and take the average.
4) Find the average time it takes to die as gorge using bile bomb
--A) As gorge use only bilebomb while jumping around like crazy around the marine
--B) Record time taken to get killed
--C) Repeat 10 times and take the average.
It is important to keep all variables constant to get a good result. Have the same player play as gorge and the same player play as marine every time. Play on the same map. Both have the same upgrades (MArine-none, gorge-bilebomb only). Play in the same area and start the countdown in the same area. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Of course you will DIE faster using spit, you are not hindering the offensive capability of the marine. A fair experiment would be comparing damage dealt by spitgorge and death time by bombgorge.
Look bilebomb makes a sprite frenzy on the screen giving a few things:
1) Can lag poor computors <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
2) It makes the visible sight on marines computors hard
Ever had a bilebomb in ur face? U will know its hard to see through it... and wen its happening to you and your mates with 3 fades around ur dead...
But lone gorges that bilebomb... there nubs...<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Bingo!
so the main reason why people bilebomb marines would be the same reason that people pull out their knives, face the wall and start waving it.
it would be nice to have a sort of knockback effect for the bilebomb though, to sort of hinder the marines. after all the quote from the old ns manual describing the fade bilebomb said "the thump of its decompression feels like a kick to your guts, right to your bones and innards, and the clumps of stuff that settle over you just look evil, like they were made to kill you".
If uve got 2 skulks campedo n the ceiling and marines in the next room... BB THEM...
They will always think ur a nub and run in nonchalantly to kill u...
Then the skulks pounce
And you get the last laugh <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
~Jason
And you get the last <i>chuckle</i> <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
~Jason <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
shame on you!
Marine visibility: -10%
Marine concentration (Marine thinking "Does bilebomb damage me?"): -5%
TOTAL: -15% damage dealt!!!
If you dont trust me, run a test with a friend! Here are some easy steps to follow:
1) Play on CO map
2) The alien kills the marine several times to gain 2 levels
3) Find the average time it takes to die as gorge when using spit
--A) As gorge use only spit while jumping around like crazy around the marine
--B) Record time taken to get killed
--C) Repeat 10 times and take the average.
4) Find the average time it takes to die as gorge using bile bomb
--A) As gorge use only bilebomb while jumping around like crazy around the marine
--B) Record time taken to get killed
--C) Repeat 10 times and take the average.
It is important to keep all variables constant to get a good result. Have the same player play as gorge and the same player play as marine every time. Play on the same map. Both have the same upgrades (MArine-none, gorge-bilebomb only). Play in the same area and start the countdown in the same area. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Of course you will DIE faster using spit, you are not hindering the offensive capability of the marine. A fair experiment would be comparing damage dealt by spitgorge and death time by bombgorge. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I disagree. I find that a single marine fighting a gorge, the gorge should win, if it is aware of what it needs to do. Marines move in predictable patterns, and so spit should hit. A gorge can bhop, strafe-jump in the opposite direction....or simply just run around the marine. Most of the time, I engage single marines as a gorge, unless they get meds from the comm.
I know that there are players that regularly win as gorge against marines on pub games - but they are very good players killing noob marines. It's nice that you are one of a few players who can kill a marine as gorge, but most people are not as good as you or as bad as the opponents you kill. I don't think i have to show that a marine should win against a gorge of equal skill, because it is so obvious.
One simple thing. Spit moves slowly, and marines can dodge it. Bullets are instantenous, and are impossible to dodge.
It's quite possible to lose 0 health while fighting a gorge if dodging properly.
As for the <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> vs <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif' /><!--endemo--> matches, the marine should win every time. It's a big part of the game, attacking/protecting gorges! It's one of the aliens' weaknesses - that they have to go gorge to build!
Besides its fun when you empty an lmg clip into a gorge and finish him off with your knife <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
One simple thing. Spit moves slowly, and marines can dodge it. Bullets are instantenous, and are impossible to dodge.
It's quite possible to lose 0 health while fighting a gorge if dodging properly. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
When's the last time you got me like that, 2_of_8? For that matter, when's the last time you caught me when I didn't want to be caught? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
sit in vent and BB cc where the marines cant touch you, cheap i know, but i've won several matches like that
sit in vent and BB cc where the marines cant touch you, cheap i know, but i've won several matches like that <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
If you ever go on a pfff server doing that, prepare to get banned.
Its cheap and pisses people off.
sit in vent and BB cc where the marines cant touch you, cheap i know, but i've won several matches like that <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
If you ever go on a pfff server doing that, prepare to get banned.
Its cheap and pisses people off. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Or the rines could use, you know, <b>teamwork</b>
It only takes 2 rines to stack into that vent, or one rine with a mine.
Presto, gorge problem solved. The gorge in the vent is only a threat if your team sucks. And if your team sucks, your going to lose anyway.
Had a combat game like that the other night. Marines kept getting stuck in the webs near the hive, so they'd drop their mine just before they came in the vent to try to make it harder for the skulks to get to them while they were webbed.
A quick switch from web to bile-bomb every time you heard a mine go down ended that problem. If you were quick, you'd take out the mine before it armed even.