<!--QuoteBegin-billcat+Apr 21 2005, 07:54 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (billcat @ Apr 21 2005, 07:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I have to agree with depot here.
c) should it need to be made any clearer, wb and rc all have [wb] and [rc] tags. For the dumbarses in life who can't figure out who these people are, they can exist for a few hours thinking the wb and rc clan just kicks ****, till they read the MOTD or notice the wb's canned chatter on the chat channel. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> My Whichbots don't wear a tag (forgive me Clamatius!) as my names are all original. Thanks for the support though! <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
LordSkitch, welcome to the NS Forums! You are SOOOooo... evil! <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> And WHY isn't Depot's Nutz on your Server List ?!?!?!? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-billcat+Apr 21 2005, 06:54 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (billcat @ Apr 21 2005, 06:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->c) should it need to be made any clearer, wb and rc all have [wb] and [rc] tags. For the dumbarses in life who can't figure out who these people are, they can exist for a few hours thinking the wb and rc clan just kicks ****, till they read the MOTD or notice the wb's canned chatter on the chat channel.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Umm, my server ( TheSandbox Marine Training Facility ) does have [wb] and [rcb] tags for the bots used at that time. Also, my servers MOTD does say, and I quote: <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->MOTD: Please join the MARINE team first because you maybe playing with bots.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Other then renaming my server to include "bot server" in the name, I believe it's plain as day to ANYONE who can read the english language that this server has bots. It's just a crying shame that no one takes the time to read anything anymore.
I think it funny as hell watching people who think they are elete get literally owned by bots and don't even know it. Then there act of suprize when you tell them.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Sandman: You just got owned by bots. NSplayer: OMG! Are you serious? Sandman: Yup, [wb] are whichbots, lol. NSplayer: NO WAY! They are to good to be bots. Sandman: I know but they are bots. NSplayer: Where can I get these bots? Sandman: LOL, www.whichbot.com. NSplayer: Wow, thx. I'm going to check them out.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
An easy way to tell if the server is full of bots (other then the B on the server list thing) is just check how long they (the players) have been there. Bots come in at the same hour, min, sec. Simple.
i find that some of the bots have horrible path finding. i commed on a bot server yesterday, and on caged and altair, the bots simply can't navigate to various places on the map. caged was horrible as the bots could barely get out of MS before getting stuck.
<!--QuoteBegin-kill4thrills+Apr 22 2005, 12:53 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (kill4thrills @ Apr 22 2005, 12:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i find that some of the bots have horrible path finding. i commed on a bot server yesterday, and on caged and altair, the bots simply can't navigate to various places on the map. caged was horrible as the bots could barely get out of MS before getting stuck. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Sounds like poor waypoints to me. Bots are only as good as the waypoints they follow. That's a proven fact.
<!--QuoteBegin-Sandman+Apr 22 2005, 08:29 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sandman @ Apr 22 2005, 08:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-kill4thrills+Apr 22 2005, 12:53 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (kill4thrills @ Apr 22 2005, 12:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i find that some of the bots have horrible path finding. i commed on a bot server yesterday, and on caged and altair, the bots simply can't navigate to various places on the map. caged was horrible as the bots could barely get out of MS before getting stuck. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Sounds like poor waypoints to me. Bots are only as good as the waypoints they follow. That's a proven fact. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> The waypoint king has spoken - bow down fewlz! <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
no there was definately something wrong with pathfinding. try it yourself on the house of lame server. the bots have trouble going up ramps and sometimes stairs. even very short waypoints, guiding them slowly forward makes them run backwards...
I'm a little confused as to why we're even discussing bots in the first place?
This whole thing is like saying, 'please put that your running lerklift on the server, so I don't join your server, if I don't like it.'
Can you imagine some of the titles of the servers;
[my server] - bots, lerklift2.0, metamod 1.7, mapchooser1.2, buildlimiter1.0 (30,10,20), extralevels2.1-50, gorgerecycle1.3 - oh yeah, the name of the server is School of Darwinism.
<!--QuoteBegin-kill4thrills+Apr 22 2005, 09:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (kill4thrills @ Apr 22 2005, 09:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> no there was definately something wrong with pathfinding. try it yourself on the house of lame server. the bots have trouble going up ramps and sometimes stairs. even very short waypoints, guiding them slowly forward makes them run backwards... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> What bots are you using, whichbot or rcbot? What version of bot and what version of NS? Send me your problem waypoints and I will try and fix them, that's if I have the map.
<!--QuoteBegin-modie+Apr 22 2005, 11:28 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (modie @ Apr 22 2005, 11:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> This whole thing is like saying, 'please put that your running lerklift on the server, so I don't join your server, if I don't like it.' <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Priceless. Funny how logic fails the stupid. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I have seen this topic going down hill, but I have to agree with the whole Bot thing, it is damn annoying to try to find a server, only to fond one that has unidentified bots on there. Just having them there to fill the sever, and mostly just to trick people into thinking a player is playing there.
Now, I know what you are going to say, Bot are better than normal players, check off that steam thing to find servers with bots...
I have nothing against bots, I do play with them now and then, on the servers that are clearly there for it, you can find many comm trainer, and just plain NS trainer servers out there, that you can see the bots on, mostly with the [wb] tag, if not in the server name itself.
As well, I never knew how to tag servers with bots, until I read this specific thread, remember, most of the people that read in this forum topic, are those that are interested in running a server, or already do, I can bet that a large majority of players out there, do not know about this feature in which you can identify bot servers. It is not a matter of them being 'stupid' as many of you have flamed. Just a simple thing, leave the [wb] in the bot's name, granted, I know not everyone will know what that means as well, but it sure will help.
Anyway, I guess you can say that I am defending the many players out there that do not know of this feature. Lets not turn this into a flaming war, I am sure that we are all educated people here, well some of us, and there really is no need, we are just discussing valid points.
And yes, I am Admin on the Mr|Server, just came here as I am taking over some of the responsiblity of running it, and needed to check on a few things, just to see that Boris has gotten his hands into these posts, so I am not just defending him, this is my point of view.
If im joining an unfamilliar server I ALWAYS check view info and if there are many players that have been playing the the exact same amount of time I know its bots and I go elsewhere, never to return.
<!--QuoteBegin-Real PUA+May 12 2005, 07:52 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Real PUA @ May 12 2005, 07:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If im joining an unfamilliar server I ALWAYS check view info and if there are many players that have been playing the the exact same amount of time I know its bots and I go elsewhere, never to return. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Good job, it's not that difficult to figure out.
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c) should it need to be made any clearer, wb and rc all have [wb] and [rc] tags. For the dumbarses in life who can't figure out who these people are, they can exist for a few hours thinking the wb and rc clan just kicks ****, till they read the MOTD or notice the wb's canned chatter on the chat channel. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
My Whichbots don't wear a tag (forgive me Clamatius!) as my names are all original. Thanks for the support though! <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
And WHY isn't Depot's Nutz on your Server List ?!?!?!? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Umm, my server ( TheSandbox Marine Training Facility ) does have [wb] and [rcb] tags for the bots used at that time. Also, my servers MOTD does say, and I quote:
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->MOTD: Please join the MARINE team first because you maybe playing with bots.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Other then renaming my server to include "bot server" in the name, I believe it's plain as day to ANYONE who can read the english language that this server has bots. It's just a crying shame that no one takes the time to read anything anymore.
I think it funny as hell watching people who think they are elete get literally owned by bots and don't even know it. Then there act of suprize when you tell them.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Sandman: You just got owned by bots.
NSplayer: OMG! Are you serious?
Sandman: Yup, [wb] are whichbots, lol.
NSplayer: NO WAY! They are to good to be bots.
Sandman: I know but they are bots.
NSplayer: Where can I get these bots?
Sandman: LOL, www.whichbot.com.
NSplayer: Wow, thx. I'm going to check them out.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Sounds like poor waypoints to me. Bots are only as good as the waypoints they follow. That's a proven fact.
Sounds like poor waypoints to me. Bots are only as good as the waypoints they follow. That's a proven fact. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
The waypoint king has spoken - bow down fewlz! <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
This whole thing is like saying, 'please put that your running lerklift on the server, so I don't join your server, if I don't like it.'
Can you imagine some of the titles of the servers;
[my server] - bots, lerklift2.0, metamod 1.7, mapchooser1.2, buildlimiter1.0 (30,10,20), extralevels2.1-50, gorgerecycle1.3 - oh yeah, the name of the server is School of Darwinism.
What bots are you using, whichbot or rcbot? What version of bot and what version of NS? Send me your problem waypoints and I will try and fix them, that's if I have the map.
Priceless. Funny how logic fails the stupid. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Great quote.
Now, I know what you are going to say, Bot are better than normal players, check off that steam thing to find servers with bots...
I have nothing against bots, I do play with them now and then, on the servers that are clearly there for it, you can find many comm trainer, and just plain NS trainer servers out there, that you can see the bots on, mostly with the [wb] tag, if not in the server name itself.
As well, I never knew how to tag servers with bots, until I read this specific thread, remember, most of the people that read in this forum topic, are those that are interested in running a server, or already do, I can bet that a large majority of players out there, do not know about this feature in which you can identify bot servers. It is not a matter of them being 'stupid' as many of you have flamed. Just a simple thing, leave the [wb] in the bot's name, granted, I know not everyone will know what that means as well, but it sure will help.
Anyway, I guess you can say that I am defending the many players out there that do not know of this feature. Lets not turn this into a flaming war, I am sure that we are all educated people here, well some of us, and there really is no need, we are just discussing valid points.
And yes, I am Admin on the Mr|Server, just came here as I am taking over some of the responsiblity of running it, and needed to check on a few things, just to see that Boris has gotten his hands into these posts, so I am not just defending him, this is my point of view.
Good job, it's not that difficult to figure out.