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ChickenOfWarChickenOfWar Join Date: 2003-04-09 Member: 15352Members
lol is this legal?
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  • SpaceJesusSpaceJesus Join Date: 2004-07-02 Member: 29683Banned
    afaik :

    Yes, but only if you own a copy of HL2.
  • ChickenOfWarChickenOfWar Join Date: 2003-04-09 Member: 15352Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-SpaceJesus+Apr 22 2005, 03:18 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SpaceJesus @ Apr 22 2005, 03:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> afaik :

    Yes, but only if you own a copy of HL2. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well theres no way of proving that every time someone DLs...
  • RatonetwothreetwooneRatonetwothreetwoone Join Date: 2004-03-23 Member: 27504Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-ChickenOfWar+Apr 22 2005, 03:37 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ChickenOfWar @ Apr 22 2005, 03:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-SpaceJesus+Apr 22 2005, 03:18 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SpaceJesus @ Apr 22 2005, 03:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> afaik :

    Yes, but only if you own a copy of HL2. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well theres no way of proving that every time someone DLs... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    who cares (besides valve... who wont care) .. i vote release it... or maybe you could just send it to me? because i REALLY like it..
  • aeroripperaeroripper Join Date: 2005-02-25 Member: 42471NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    I wouldn't worry about it
  • CoolCookieCooksCoolCookieCooks Pretty Girl Join Date: 2003-05-18 Member: 16446Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation
    how about no, if you release it, a mod will be on your trail and nuke it before you can say blicka blicka.
  • SpetsnazSpetsnaz Join Date: 2003-12-26 Member: 24761Members, Constellation
    i wouldnt even touch this with a ten foot poll and then light it on fire.
  • ChickenOfWarChickenOfWar Join Date: 2003-04-09 Member: 15352Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Spetsnaz+Apr 22 2005, 04:19 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Spetsnaz @ Apr 22 2005, 04:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i wouldnt even touch this with a ten foot poll and then light it on fire. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    So you think the convert is bad? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • douchebagatrondouchebagatron Custom member title Join Date: 2003-12-20 Member: 24581Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    i thought you couldnt release it, but if someone wanted it over pm, you could send it to them. well, the mods couldnt stop you anyways.
  • RatonetwothreetwooneRatonetwothreetwoone Join Date: 2004-03-23 Member: 27504Members
    i think he meant for legal reasons... but bleh.. show me one case of valve getting pissy about someone converting something from hl2 to hl1... or using valve-made weapon models in someones own mod...
  • frylockfrylock Join Date: 2004-10-29 Member: 32515Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Ratonetwothreetwoone+Apr 22 2005, 05:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ratonetwothreetwoone @ Apr 22 2005, 05:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i think he meant for legal reasons... but bleh.. show me one case of valve getting pissy about someone converting something from hl2 to hl1... or using valve-made weapon models in someones own mod... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I'm still waiting for Gabe to call and tell me I'm getting sued for porting HL2 sounds for NS. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • CoolCookieCooksCoolCookieCooks Pretty Girl Join Date: 2003-05-18 Member: 16446Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation
    valve stated that they will take legal actions if they find out about any conversions from hl2 to any other game.
  • AbraAbra Would you kindly Join Date: 2003-08-17 Member: 19870Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-CoolCookieCooks+Apr 23 2005, 12:14 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CoolCookieCooks @ Apr 23 2005, 12:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> will valve take legal conversions that they stated to hl2 actions find any other game out about any from if they. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Fixed.
  • ChickenOfWarChickenOfWar Join Date: 2003-04-09 Member: 15352Members
    edited April 2005
    I dunno what Valve would have on me if i did release it. The only way they could sue me is if I made money off of it, which of course I would'nt be. Correct me if im wrong, but the only way it would be illegal is if I were selling it to the people on this forum, not giving it to them...
  • aeroripperaeroripper Join Date: 2005-02-25 Member: 42471NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    If valve really got mad about it they'd just shoot a cease and decist e-mail. Come to think of it, i remember getting one of these a long time ago but i can't remember what for... hmm

    oh well
  • ChickenOfWarChickenOfWar Join Date: 2003-04-09 Member: 15352Members
    Thats the thing, I would post a link to the model, but the only thing I'm afraid of is the mods deleting the link, I really don't think Valve would care about something as small as this.
  • monk3ymonk3y Join Date: 2003-10-30 Member: 22139Members
    OOOOOO! i've always wnated that shotgun model!!! for NS!! where'd you get it???!?!
  • PRTePRTe Join Date: 2003-10-25 Member: 21919Members
    either way this is getting locked. just like the hl2 sentry model thread. locked. <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • DrfuzzyDrfuzzy FEW... MORE.... INCHES... Join Date: 2003-09-21 Member: 21094Members
    edited April 2005
    If you all would stop bitching 'olololwarezWTHhax' maybe the threads wouldent get locked. flipping dumb ****.

    The model looks good, I say release it cause valve never really cares much about it. After all, its for a hl1 mod anyways.
  • frylockfrylock Join Date: 2004-10-29 Member: 32515Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Drfuzzy+Apr 22 2005, 10:56 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Drfuzzy @ Apr 22 2005, 10:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If you all would stop bitching 'olololwarezWTHhax' maybe the threads wouldent get locked. flipping dumb ****.

    The model looks good, I say release it cause valve never really cares much about it. After all, its for a hl1 mod anyways. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Get it hosted at NSA. They don't seem to care about the legality. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • ChickenOfWarChickenOfWar Join Date: 2003-04-09 Member: 15352Members
    edited April 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-monk3y+Apr 22 2005, 09:00 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (monk3y @ Apr 22 2005, 09:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> OOOOOO! i've always wnated that shotgun model!!! for NS!! where'd you get it???!?! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I converted it myself.

    Ohh yeah and what about that Half life 2 medpack model that was hosted on NSA?? If that was never argued about why would this be??

    Yeah I'de definetly want this to get hosted on NSA.
  • huevos_splashhuevos_splash Join Date: 2004-11-13 Member: 32769Members
    i have to agree with the doctor on the part about people being little **** <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    if it were me, i would just release it and post a link. the worst that could happen is valve could send you a letter about their period and ask you to take it down - something which is very unlikely considering they're too imcompetent to come out with games pomised 6 years ago, much less patrol boards <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    use rapidshare if you do change your mind:
    <a href='http://rapidshare.de/' target='_blank'>http://rapidshare.de/</a>
  • CageyCagey Ex-Unknown Worlds Programmer Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8829Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-ChickenOfWar+Apr 22 2005, 02:56 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ChickenOfWar @ Apr 22 2005, 02:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Correct me if im wrong, but the only way it would be illegal is if I were selling it to the people on this forum, not giving it to them...<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <!--QuoteBegin-http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-definitions.html#infringement+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-definitions.html#infringement)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->As a general matter, copyright infringement occurs when a copyrighted work is reproduced, distributed, performed, publicly displayed, or made into a derivative work without the permission of the copyright owner.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Nothing in there about making a profit <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->.

    Fox and Lucasarts in particular are rabid about shutting down hobby projects that aren't looking to make money. A company only has to demonstrate that they could theoretically make more money with their copyrighted material if it isn't distributed without their permission. Once that is established, it's possible to sue for damages even if you didn't make a dime.

    I seriously doubt VALVe will hunt you down or try to stop distribution, but that doesn't change the law--there's no way it'd get approval from NS staff.
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Cagey+Apr 23 2005, 01:58 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cagey @ Apr 23 2005, 01:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Nothing in there about making a profit <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->.

    Fox and Lucasarts in particular are rabid about shutting down hobby projects that aren't looking to make money. A company only has to demonstrate that they could theoretically make more money with their copyrighted material if it isn't distributed without their permission. Once that is established, it's possible to sue for damages even if you didn't make a dime. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Excuse me? Fox and <i>Lucasarts</i>? I can understand Fox, that's where the word "Foxed" comes from, but Lucasarts is about as open as, uh, something open. If they shut down Star Wars mods, then you've got a big list of stuff they're going to crack down on soon:

    SW:TA, the Star Wars Total Annihilation mod
    Galactic Conquest, the BF1942 Star Wars mod
    Troopers, the Unreal Tournament Star Wars mod
    New Rebellion and Episode 1, two Homeworld Star Wars mods
    Jedi: Timelines, the HL2 Star Wars mod

    And many others. Lucasarts lets people do lots of stuff. Mods, fanfilms, etc. The only concievable relation they have to Fox is that 20th Century Fox releases the Star Wars films. Other than that, don't lump the two together anymore. KTHNXBAI <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • SpetsnazSpetsnaz Join Date: 2003-12-26 Member: 24761Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-ChickenOfWar+Apr 22 2005, 09:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ChickenOfWar @ Apr 22 2005, 09:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Spetsnaz+Apr 22 2005, 04:19 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Spetsnaz @ Apr 22 2005, 04:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i wouldnt even touch this with a ten foot poll and then light it on fire. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    So you think the convert is bad? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Nah its a very nice convert. just that its from HL2 that i woudnt touch it cuz they would probs lay the smack down with a law suit or something.

    When i say *they i mean our benefactors (Valve)
    <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • nogoodnicknamenogoodnickname Join Date: 2005-03-23 Member: 46172Members
  • BAshhBAshh Join Date: 2003-08-26 Member: 20222Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    edited April 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-ChickenOfWar+Apr 22 2005, 05:56 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ChickenOfWar @ Apr 22 2005, 05:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I dunno what Valve would have on me if i did release it. The only way they could sue me is if I made money off of it, which of course I would'nt be. Correct me if im wrong, but the only way it would be illegal is if I were selling it to the people on this forum, not giving it to them... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I'm not sure, the legal waters surrounding this is still pretty murky, but mods will close on sight if you release and hell might close it now anyway. My suggestion is if anyone wants it bad enough they can do it themselves, it really isn't that much of a pain, the only thing that sucks is it wont be nice and shiny like the hl2 counterpart.

    edit i was beaten to the punch
  • Fatal_ErrorFatal_Error Join Date: 2005-01-15 Member: 35840Members
    Post it on NSA. Valve officers are less likely to look on a private forum.
  • RatonetwothreetwooneRatonetwothreetwoone Join Date: 2004-03-23 Member: 27504Members
    oh oh i have a plan... ASK valve if you can release this shotty for ns...
  • StarStarGrizzlyStarStarGrizzly Join Date: 2004-02-06 Member: 26139Members
    its ugly and would look terrible in a hl1 mod
  • nogoodnicknamenogoodnickname Join Date: 2005-03-23 Member: 46172Members
    theres no matter just sum1 release it
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