Alien Swarm.WTH?

HalfastHalfast Join Date: 2004-09-01 Member: 31165Members
edited April 2005 in NS General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">alien swarm vs NS</div> <a href='http://www.blackcatgames.com/swarm/index' target='_blank'>http://www.blackcatgames.com/swarm/index</a>

WTH??

i was just looging for some NS play and i notice in the steam news a new mod,made for HL2.i have only HL1,but i read the news,and visited the site.and then i just cant believe.the game seems to me just like a stupid copy os NS.

i needed some ansers.is that game somehow involved with the NS game?is it a un-official NS->HL2?i think not.and im very sad about this... and angry!! <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

(and yes,im not a regular forum visitor.im a player only.any discussion already made about this is not of my knldg)
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  • SupernornSupernorn Best. Picture. Ever. Made. Ever. Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7608Members, Constellation
    If you had visited the site for longer than 20 seconds, you would have realised that its really not anything like Natural-Selection.
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  • eliotmateliotmat Join Date: 2002-12-01 Member: 10350Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    Bwuahahaha!

    I was just looking at that. It's supposed to be a commercially released source engine game.

    Guess someone is gonna share the NS2 market. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    <span style='color:red'>LOCKED! </span>
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  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Isn't this mod (or a version of it) built for UT2K4?
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  • SupernornSupernorn Best. Picture. Ever. Made. Ever. Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7608Members, Constellation
    Its for UT2003/2004, but they have just announced a version for the source engine. And it looks great!
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  • HalfastHalfast Join Date: 2004-09-01 Member: 31165Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Supernorn+Apr 29 2005, 03:59 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Supernorn @ Apr 29 2005, 03:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If you had visited the site for longer than 20 seconds, you would have realised that its really not anything like Natural-Selection. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    is it not?cause i've visited it for more than 20 secs.and i do think that it to simmilar to NS.i do love NS,but if someone is trying to steal the idea(because thats what it is!the idea,not the game itself)i will not stand still.
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  • Minstrel_KnightMinstrel_Knight The truth and nothing but the truth... Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9562Banned
    It was an overhead shooter in Ut so not really similar to ns.
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  • tankefugltankefugl One Script To Rule Them All... Trondheim, Norway Join Date: 2002-11-14 Member: 8641Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    The idea of aliens vs. marines isn't new, and NS wasn't the first game to try it. And apart from that, it's nothing similar to NS at all.
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  • ScytheScythe Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 46NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation, Reinforced - Silver
    Halfast, the first version of Alien Swarm came out a little under a year ago, if I recall correctly, on the UT2003 engine. It's a top-down game in which you DIRECTLY CONTROL a squad of marines. Left click moves, right click fires. You are attacked by swarms of identical, poorly-modeled aliens and you must complete an objective such as turning on a generator or blowing up something.

    This bears very little sembelance to NS. Besides, who said competition is bad?

    --Scythe--
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  • typical_skeletontypical_skeleton Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13944Members
    I hate these threads... I can't believe NS has its own horde of fanboys.

    As I've said before, NS is a rip of Aliens, StarCraft, Predator... just about any sci-fi thing that came before it. =P

    I'd say it most heavily borrow ideas from StarCraft, which heavily borrowed ideas from Aliens. OMG, creative people ripping each other off? NEW CONCEPT.

    =P
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  • Amped1Amped1 Join Date: 2003-02-08 Member: 13287Members
    This game is obviously a rip-off of NS. It's just that the gameplay, graphics, sounds and concepts have been changed.
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  • SkySky Join Date: 2004-04-23 Member: 28131Members
    OMG THEY STOLE OUR FLAMER!

    Seriously....no. I suppose it's kinda similar to Commander gameplay...except you're commanding relatively intelligent marines who actually go where you tell them to go and do what you tell them to do. Yeah, nothing like NS at all.
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  • Gecko_God_Of_DooomGecko_God_Of_Dooom Join Date: 2004-02-10 Member: 26353Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Sky+Apr 29 2005, 04:36 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sky @ Apr 29 2005, 04:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> OMG THEY STOLE OUR FLAMER!

    Seriously....no. I suppose it's kinda similar to Commander gameplay...except you're commanding relatively intelligent marines who actually go where you tell them to go and do what you tell them to do. Yeah, nothing like NS at all. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    QFT, lol
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  • MendaspMendasp I touch maps in inappropriate places Valencia, Spain Join Date: 2002-07-05 Member: 884Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Retired Community Developer
    They're porting to Source? **** YEAH!
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  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    The screenshots they released look impressive. Let's just hope they tone the difficulty level down a <i>bit</i> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-Nemesis Zero+Apr 29 2005, 03:52 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nemesis Zero @ Apr 29 2005, 03:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The screenshots they released look impressive. Let's just hope they tone the difficulty level down a <i>bit</i> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    And reduce the friendly fire....

    (Sorry if I've ever blasted you with a shotgun) <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • AJ_fifty_threeAJ_fifty_three Join Date: 2003-08-21 Member: 20061Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-DragonMech+Apr 29 2005, 05:18 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DragonMech @ Apr 29 2005, 05:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Nemesis Zero+Apr 29 2005, 03:52 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nemesis Zero @ Apr 29 2005, 03:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The screenshots they released look impressive. Let's just hope they tone the difficulty level down a <i>bit</i> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    And reduce the friendly fire....

    (Sorry if I've ever blasted you with a shotgun) <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    yeah.... and sorry if I've ever flamed/shottied/mined any of you, please don't hold it against me ;-;
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  • HeliocentricHeliocentric Join Date: 2005-04-24 Member: 49650Members
    "Alien swarm" is a co-op game against "run straight at you in hoards" AI, the game really is meant to be used with each player controling about 1 unit, but you can offline play and control the whole team (or simply set the other to follow).

    while ns is a competive team fps, alien swarm is a co-operative top down twitch shooter, really ratherdifferent, and both worth being on your "most played" list.

    the alien swarm playing community is critically small, rarely more than 20 players online, and its a crazy thing, hopefully going onto an engine where players are more likely to seek out mods will allow them to rise from criticaly accliamed to publicly whorshipped <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->.

    +ns fanboy
    +as fanboy
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  • Plasma_SnakePlasma_Snake Join Date: 2005-04-17 Member: 48732Members
    I love AS, IT IS AWESOME. There isn't a lot of people playing AS, so thats why I don't really play it. It does get boring after a number of the same stages again, then I switch back to NS <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • DaJMastaDaJMasta Join Date: 2005-01-10 Member: 34750Members, Constellation
    It seemed like a really great game for UT2004, so i can only imagine what its going to be now <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • PRTePRTe Join Date: 2003-10-25 Member: 21919Members
    the only similarities i can spot are, human vs aliens, atmosphere, command view. and i'm sure NS wasn't the first to have these. but it does look like a promising game with a hell lot of fun packed into it.
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  • nogoodnicknamenogoodnickname Join Date: 2005-03-23 Member: 46172Members
    edited April 2005
    looks kinda boring
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  • Seph_KimaraSeph_Kimara Join Date: 2003-08-10 Member: 19359Members
    Apples in one hand, oranges in the other.
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  • DarkFrostDarkFrost Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15154Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-DaJMasta+Apr 30 2005, 04:20 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DaJMasta @ Apr 30 2005, 04:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It seemed like a really great game for UT2004, so i can only imagine what its going to be now <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Oh they could have done so much more with the ut2k4 engine, look at thief deadly shadows <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • guchiguchi Join Date: 2005-03-27 Member: 46624Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-DarkFrost+Apr 30 2005, 05:15 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DarkFrost @ Apr 30 2005, 05:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-DaJMasta+Apr 30 2005, 04:20 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DaJMasta @ Apr 30 2005, 04:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It seemed like a really great game for UT2004, so i can only imagine what its going to be now <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Oh they could have done so much more with the ut2k4 engine, look at thief deadly shadows <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    yeah but they had the full licensed engine, considerably different from the free one <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • DarkFrostDarkFrost Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15154Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-guchi+Apr 30 2005, 11:33 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (guchi @ Apr 30 2005, 11:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-DarkFrost+Apr 30 2005, 05:15 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DarkFrost @ Apr 30 2005, 05:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-DaJMasta+Apr 30 2005, 04:20 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DaJMasta @ Apr 30 2005, 04:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It seemed like a really great game for UT2004, so i can only imagine what its going to be now <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Oh they could have done so much more with the ut2k4 engine, look at thief deadly shadows <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    yeah but they had the full licensed engine, considerably different from the free one <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    idd
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  • Amped1Amped1 Join Date: 2003-02-08 Member: 13287Members
    edited April 2005
    Acronyms are really getting on my nerves on this forum because people use them for everything. Not everyone has a vocabulary of 20+ online acronyms.

    EDIT - That was directed at everyone, not DarkFrost. Just seeing DarkFrost's "idd" and having no idea what he is saying tipped the scales.
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  • CrispyCrispy Jaded GD Join Date: 2004-08-22 Member: 30793Members, Constellation
    edited April 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-tankefugl+Apr 29 2005, 04:10 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (tankefugl @ Apr 29 2005, 04:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The idea of aliens vs. marines isn't new, and NS wasn't the first game to try it. And apart from that, it's nothing similar to NS at all. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Quoted the first guy to pretty much echo my view on this.

    NS is a new concept that is made up of a combination of old concepts. In Gaming these days there are no completely new concepts. The novelty is pretty much taken from film and literature, tabletop gaming and used to facade an already existing game genre (or combination).

    I'd really like some of the older games to be revisited, people need to know where all of these 'new' games are getting their ideas from. Despite possibly sounding a bit pompous, I will freely admit that I am humbled by the sheer number of gaming greats that I still am yet to play.

    [Edit] Amped!, isn't there a thread on these forums that explains a lot of online gaming (and perhaps forum) speak. Maybe you should head on over there <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • omletteomlette Join Date: 2003-07-27 Member: 18457Members, Constellation
    edited April 2005
    Some of those screenshots look pretty good. Imagine well done maps with proper lighting for NS on the source engine. <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • SLizerSLizer Join Date: 2003-11-07 Member: 22363Members, Constellation
    omelette I had that sig little over week ago xD good I found my <3 avatar now.

    Yupp that looks kinda nice, hows the bug game where was those ants,termites and other creatures?
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  • DarkFrostDarkFrost Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15154Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Amped!+Apr 30 2005, 01:42 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Amped! @ Apr 30 2005, 01:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Acronyms are really getting on my nerves on this forum because people use them for everything. Not everyone has a vocabulary of 20+ online acronyms.

    EDIT - That was directed at everyone, not DarkFrost. Just seeing DarkFrost's "idd" and having no idea what he is saying tipped the scales. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It means indeed.
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