Alien Swarm.WTH?

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  • aeroripperaeroripper Join Date: 2005-02-25 Member: 42471NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    Fun little game for the ut2003\4 engine

    Not really like NS... NS is much better in terms of story

    Although i will hafta play it again since it looks great on the source engine
  • AlienCowAlienCow Join Date: 2003-09-20 Member: 21040Members
    I think it looks pretty cool, I'm dloading the video at the moment.

    And seriously, "idd" means "indeed"? I think thats SO lazy, but whatever. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • DarkFrostDarkFrost Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15154Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-AlienCow+Apr 30 2005, 05:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AlienCow @ Apr 30 2005, 05:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I think it looks pretty cool, I'm dloading the video at the moment.

    And seriously, "idd" means "indeed"? I think thats SO lazy, but whatever. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Oh nonono the english translation is "indeed" the word it shortens is longer =]
  • MisfireMisfire Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5764Members
    thought it was a decent mod for ut2k4, got boring though
  • HazeHaze O RLY? Join Date: 2003-07-07 Member: 18018Members, Constellation
    I think it would be a great mod if everyone was on a vent server. The ability to play and speak with others makes all games about 200% better, if they're co-op.
  • NarfwakNarfwak Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5258Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Gold, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow, Subnautica PT Lead, NS2 Community Developer
    If you haven't played AS, stop making stupid comments and download the UT version right now. It's one of my favorite mods, an excellent party game, and nothing at all like NS.
  • UKchaosUKchaos Join Date: 2002-08-10 Member: 1132Members
    Hmm, I can see why the original poster thinks its an NS rip off <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    <img src='http://www.night-blade.com/blackcatweb/asi-sshot/Swarm_Drone_small.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
  • PlaguebearerPlaguebearer Join Date: 2002-03-21 Member: 338Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Looks kinda like a Hormagaunt.

    OMG 40K RIPOFF LOL
  • RevRev Join Date: 2005-01-10 Member: 34705Members
    *gasp* it has marines and aliens it must be a rip off of NS.

    For one, if your going to have infantry in space they're going to be marines as marines are simply fighting men on navy ships (at least thats what marines used to be, US Marines are more of a special forces unit and there are a few other exceptions).

    For two unless its going to be human vs human or something your going to have aliens in space and they are going to probably be 'animal' like or something.

    Thirdly, if there are other FPS RTS games (which Alien Swarm is not) you can't call them a rip off. The ideas been floated around a lot, NS is just the first successful mod/game I can think of that pulled it off. There will be others.

    If your going to assume any game with the generic marine vs alien idea is a rip off of NS then you should realy review your game/movie history. NS isnt exactly the first to use the idea either.

    Alien Swarm was originally a UT mod where the players controlled marines and killed AI controlled Aliens. I belive it was top down only as well, not first person. Hardly the same game play as NS.

    Personally I can't wait to try AS out for Source. It looked fun for UT, and those screenshots are amazing.
  • MrGunnerMrGunner Join Date: 2003-01-03 Member: 11757Members, Constellation
    HAY GUYS I TOTALLY PLAYED THIS MOD THAT RIPS OFF NS CALLED GLOOM! TOTALLY!
  • typical_skeletontypical_skeleton Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13944Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->NS is a new concept that is made up of a combination of old concepts. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    That's actually being generous. NS is far from a "new concept" in gaming.

    People need to learn to understand the difference between using a genre and ripping off a creative work.

    While some may debate me on this.. NS really does not have a lot of creativity in it. In an artistic sense. Probably the only really unique thing about NS is the alien appearance, which isn't even that good (in my humble opinion).

    Otherwise, it has marines, shotguns, machine guns, grenades, various... structures, space stations... yawn. All of this has been seen before and has been done more creatively than it is in NS.

    That doesn't mean NS is bad, I like the game a lot and I understand a lot of hard work went into it, so I commend the devs on that.

    But as an artistic/creative project, NS is lacking. (Let me make it clear that I understand NS isn't supposed to be an artistic project or neccesarily even very creative, that's my whole point...)
  • aeroripperaeroripper Join Date: 2005-02-25 Member: 42471NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    Yea but its a lot of fun to play is what it really comes down too i guess :-P
  • evidenceevidence Join Date: 2004-10-07 Member: 32143Members
    We played alien swarm for ages at this lan had a bit of trouble getting the team speak to work and we got kinda owned. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • KazyrasKazyras Join Date: 2002-11-23 Member: 9722Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-MrGunner+Apr 30 2005, 04:14 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MrGunner @ Apr 30 2005, 04:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->HAY GUYS I TOTALLY PLAYED THIS MOD THAT RIPS OFF NS CALLED GLOOM!  TOTALLY!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Yeah really, it seems people too easily forget that little quake 2 mod called gloom. NS borrowed a lot from it.
  • urinalcakeurinalcake Can&#39;t work a sound card United States Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7799Members
    THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!
    No game of this proportion should be released on a free market with free thought. No game like this should mirror a modification of a well known game! No game should use free elements and ideas from free human knowledge EVER.

    I WILL PROTEST THIS.





    *downloads*
    17% of 1 file.
  • ShadowcatShadowcat Join Date: 2003-01-18 Member: 12443Members
    edited April 2005
    Meet Bob, Bob is a guy who has spent the last 3 years playing NS. He totally missed out on the Xbox..

    Well, today Bob searches the internet.

    Bob: 0Mg wTH IS TIS GAM3!!! HALO..
    Bob: MARINES VS ALIENS OMG THATS A RIP OFF OF NS OMG.
    Bob: I GODDA G0 REGIST3R AN ACCOUNT ON NS>COM FORUMS AND TELL THEM ABOUT IT.





    Something else.. Alien Swarm is actually based on a mix between Aliens and Starcraft. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • urinalcakeurinalcake Can&#39;t work a sound card United States Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7799Members
  • ShinzonShinzon Join Date: 2003-07-25 Member: 18407Members
    Heh, that game does look alot like NS... they possibly got inspired by it... and thats a question that should be asked... But i don't belive that tthe actual marines are real people... And the only thing similar is the commander mode... looking through some screenshots (i think) you could see some rpg elements in the marines...

    Though this game is eerly similar lets not blam it to hell?

    By the way

    the Warhammer 40k and starcraft/warcraft are similar... I mean orks? and their space marines look awfly alot like starcraft marines O.o
  • KazyrasKazyras Join Date: 2002-11-23 Member: 9722Members
    You should know that Warhammer 40K is a tabletop game from the early 80's, and thus it's StarCraft and WarCraft that are an awful lot like it, and not the other way around.

    Many WH 40K-based PC games have been released, some prior to StarCraft, but they never had much success until Dawn of War.
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Kazyras+May 1 2005, 03:27 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Kazyras @ May 1 2005, 03:27 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Many WH 40K-based PC games have been released, some prior to StarCraft, but they never had much success until Dawn of War. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Mainly because they sucked, really.

    Excluding Space Hulk and Space Hulk 2: Vengeance of the Blood Angels, but they're only based on the WH40K universe, not the actual game. Infact, Space Hulk has a hell of a lot in common with NS really.
  • tankefugltankefugl One Script To Rule Them All... Trondheim, Norway Join Date: 2002-11-14 Member: 8641Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    Space Hulk .. That was such a great game.
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    edited May 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-tankefugl+May 1 2005, 12:23 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (tankefugl @ May 1 2005, 12:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Space Hulk .. That was such a great game. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    As good as the computer games were, the tabletop was much better, i'd strongly suggest playing it if you haven't. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • PlaguebearerPlaguebearer Join Date: 2002-03-21 Member: 338Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    God... I miss Space Hulk board games. Used to have several of the basic set and the epxansions, we'd build IMMENSE maps...
  • ScribblesScribbles Join Date: 2003-11-05 Member: 22323Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Plaguebearer+May 1 2005, 08:46 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Plaguebearer @ May 1 2005, 08:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> God... I miss Space Hulk board games. Used to have several of the basic set and the epxansions, we'd build IMMENSE maps... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I've played Alien Swarm quite a bit, as I earlier played one of their mods called Thievery (a multiplayer creep in the shadow mod, it was awesome).

    If Infested is going to be any bit like the old Alien Swarm, then there will be no similarities between this game and NS whatsoever.

    Alien Swarm was cooperative, and hard... very hard... Me and a team of newbies litterally spent a whole day trying to complete the second level without any casualties. Everyone kept picking the flamethrower as their weapon, and since friendly fire was an integral part of the game, we kept killing eachother over and over and over. Took a while before we figured out that the flamethrower simply wasn't a good weapon for closequarter combat, and that the weaker, yet more precise assault rifles were much safer to use.


    I really advise anyone with UT2K4 to download the original mod and give it a whirl. It really is quite a change from NS. It has RPG elements in it, sweet cooperative gameplay and a generally awesome finished style.

    I for one do hope they keep the old difficulty levels. Made it so much more exciting. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • AlcapwnAlcapwn &quot;War is the science of destruction&quot; - John Abbot Join Date: 2003-06-21 Member: 17590Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Nemesis Zero+Apr 29 2005, 04:52 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nemesis Zero @ Apr 29 2005, 04:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The screenshots they released look impressive. Let's just hope they tone the difficulty level down a <i>bit</i> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Hell no.

    That was the best part of Alien Swarm when i played it.

    It wasnt frustratingly hard, it was challenging.
  • HeliocentricHeliocentric Join Date: 2005-04-24 Member: 49650Members
    edited May 2005
    what is Alien Swarm based on?

    well, i can tell you that from reading, and by Alien swarm's initial subtitle it is based on the book of "starship troopers", "bug hunt" was to be the title of the starship troopers movie had they not gotten the book referencing right from the author (or since i think he's dead the people who now own the property). "just another bug hunt" i'm assuming is a pun on this.

    so.. when you play it, you'll see that the aliens arnt sneaky and cunning (as they can be in natural selection), but rather numberous and angry, not very like "alien" at all, and muchly like "starship troopers".

    still, the concept of human vs aliens is hardly new.

    <!--QuoteBegin-Kazyras+May 1 2005, 03:27 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Kazyras @ May 1 2005, 03:27 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Infact, Space Hulk has a hell of a lot in common with NS really.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    aye, gamesworkshop had to carefully act to not infringe on the "aliens" property (genestealers lay parasites in the host which result in more genestealers) in alien swarm there is a small facehugger like parasite unit that will burst from the players body of the paracite damage kills him, a medic can neutralise the parasite (or the host, hee hee)

    and the most facehugger like unit in NS has an attack called, parasite!

    so, really everyone borrows off those who came before them, immitation is the most powerful form of flattery so they say.
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->the Warhammer 40k and starcraft/warcraft are similar...  I mean orks? and their space marines look awfly alot like starcraft marines O.o<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    both warhammer (the medieval equivilent, and precursor) of warhamer is what wh40k is based on, they sat around and thought, what if it was warhammer in space with guns.

    as such "rogue trader" was born, every warhammer army had a mirror, the empire (normal soldiers) had the imperial guard (normal space soldiers), the armored knights became armored space marines, the chaos army used nearly all the same deamons (does to this day), and corrupt versions of the knights and empire, in 40k it used cultists and chaos marines.

    erm... well halflings/dwarfs became squats, elf became eldar, and dark versions of each too.

    undead and the necrons bare a stunning resemblance,

    +ex wh40k fanboy
  • DiablusDiablus Join Date: 2003-03-31 Member: 15080Members
    edited May 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->OMG LIEK NS WAS THE FIRST GAEM TO EVAR COEM UP WITH ALIENS VS HUMANZ. FLAYRA SHOULD GIT LIEK BILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND SHOULD SUE STARCRAFT AND ALIEN VERSUS PREDATOR TOO!!1111<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->



    Now all of you NS fanboies should learn that NS isn't the first game to come up with the Alien versus marines idea. If you listen up you'll realise NS is a mixture of plenty of "other game" themes. But that <i>does not</i> mean they're "blantant ripoffs" and you "need answers"

    you all should be ashamed of yourselves, grow up and learn that the Aliens Versus Marines theme ahs been out for ages, it WASNT natural Selection "that started it all"

    you don't see the CS forums roaring with flames against that new mod Plan Of Attack. because as well all know Terrorists vs military personeel / counter terrorists where you "buy" your weapons idea has been out there for awhile as well.

    Grow up people, your not making a point by saying "OMG BLANTANT RIPOFF OF NS, FLAYRA WATCH OUT! SUE THEM!"
    if anything your looking like nubtards.
  • AlcapwnAlcapwn &quot;War is the science of destruction&quot; - John Abbot Join Date: 2003-06-21 Member: 17590Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Diablus+May 1 2005, 01:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Diablus @ May 1 2005, 01:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->OMG LIEK NS WAS THE FIRST GAEM TO EVAR COEM UP WITH ALIENS VS HUMANZ. FLAYRA SHOULD GIT LIEK BILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND SHOULD SUE STARCRAFT AND ALIEN VERSUS PREDATOR TOO!!1111<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->



    Now all of you NS fanboies should learn that NS isn't the first game to come up with the Alien versus marines idea. If you listen up you'll realise NS is a mixture of plenty of "other game" themes. But that <i>does not</i> mean they're "blantant ripoffs" and you "need answers"

    you all should be ashamed of yourselves, grow up and learn that the Aliens Versus Marines theme ahs been out for ages, it WASNT natural Selection "that started it all"

    you don't see the CS forums roaring with flames against that new mod Plan Of Attack. because as well all know Terrorists vs military personeel / counter terrorists where you "buy" your weapons idea has been out there for awhile as well.

    Grow up people, your not making a point by saying "OMG BLANTANT RIPOFF OF NS, FLAYRA WATCH OUT! SUE THEM!"
    if anything your looking like nubtards. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Blah Blah Blah.

    You should be ashamed at yourself for making you look like an ****.

    If you actually read the thread, you would know that there are plenty of NS people defending Alien Swarm.

    You lose.
  • Digital_FoxDigital_Fox Join Date: 2005-05-01 Member: 50636Members
    looks alot better than there UT2004 version <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> (hehe i remeber they used some player models from ut2004 or 03 i dunno i only played 04 version)
    anyways its alot different then ns <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • DiablusDiablus Join Date: 2003-03-31 Member: 15080Members
    edited May 2005
    not really since when I said "you should be ashamed of yourselves" I was referring to the people who go off claiming how the whole alien vs marine theme is absed off NS.

    So yea gg nice try with the flame, you failed.

    and also good job going off topic.

    now to stay ON topic I want to point out that the game looks great and should be great on source, looking foward to trying this game out everyone went crazy over on the unreal tounry 2004 engine <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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