<!--QuoteBegin-Metalcat+May 8 2005, 09:13 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Metalcat @ May 8 2005, 09:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Cold NiTe+May 7 2005, 04:40 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold NiTe @ May 7 2005, 04:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Sky+May 7 2005, 03:38 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sky @ May 7 2005, 03:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Metalcat+May 7 2005, 10:48 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Metalcat @ May 7 2005, 10:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Mr JeburtO+May 7 2005, 09:47 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mr JeburtO @ May 7 2005, 09:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> At my college you'r allowed to leave the class if it is an important call like this.
sometimes i just dont understand the American way of thinking <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> you are win <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
who does understand the american way of thinking? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> How the hell is this "the American way of thinking"? There are people from America right in this thread saying how frickin idiotic this is. If someone does something stupid in Germany, England, Canada, wherever, does that mean they're following their countries' "way of thinking?". No, they're just a moron. Which is what you two are, thinking that this school administration represents something all Americans agree with. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> People LOVE to generalize, sky. Give up. We're just going to be represented by the idiots within our country. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> because we are so evil when we are making jokes about America? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Did I say that, or are you putting words in my mouth? I wonder. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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Excuse me while I go on a rampage with my cell phone, pointing it at teachers irradiating them with unidirectional radio waves, eat photons mortals!
Thats just bloody stupid TBH, I've gotten suspended cause I tore up a newspaper that someone who was hitting me over the head repeatedly with. Now, he got off scott free, I dont know how or why, but I got the suspension and had to go to 'anger management class' when I was simply defending myself.
That is utterly ridiculous. I hate to break it to them, but if I was on the phone with my MOM who was IN IRAQ, I would politely refuse to hang up. He was civil about it, yet he got his point across. Did they realize that Sunday was Mother's Day? Did they stop and think that might have been the only time his mother could have called him? Soldiers in Iraq can't just call whenever they want, there are certain times and places to make calls. However, what I do not agree with was the ecessive use of profanity. Sure, if that happened to me, I would pop off a few curses, but not use them excessively. I think that this kid could and should take this to the school board.
<!--QuoteBegin-BaconTheory+May 8 2005, 10:36 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BaconTheory @ May 8 2005, 10:36 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> He was civil about it, yet he got his point across. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> The entire point is that he WASN'T civil about it. He cursed and made a big deal out of a little thing, that's why he got 10 days suspended. He got what he deserved, or well, was going to get what he deserved until he called upon the countries blind patriotism to support him.
<!--QuoteBegin-Xyth+May 8 2005, 12:22 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Xyth @ May 8 2005, 12:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-BaconTheory+May 8 2005, 10:36 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BaconTheory @ May 8 2005, 10:36 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> He was civil about it, yet he got his point across. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> The entire point is that he WASN'T civil about it. He cursed and made a big deal out of a little thing, that's why he got 10 days suspended. He got what he deserved, or well, was going to get what he deserved until he called upon the countries blind patriotism to support him. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I should have said "He was civil AT FIRST".
<!--QuoteBegin-Nemesis Zero+May 8 2005, 05:55 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nemesis Zero @ May 8 2005, 05:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> CWAG, please dislodge Micheal Moore from your rectum.
This has nothing - <i>nothing</i> - to do with the war. If his mother had been in hospital for a difficult operation, if she had been in an accident, if there had been any other such extreme situation, my opinion would've been the exact same - and consider that lethal danger is not a necessary ingredient of an extreme situation. Imagine his mother was away on a business endeavour for half a year and could only contact him at that time. (By the way, if you remember, I'm a German citizen not exactly in favor of Bush's policy, so don't try to play the 'hollow patriotism' card against me.)
"Rules are rules." - Don't make me laugh. We're talking about a high school codex here. I dare any one of the board members in or beyond higher education to claim that (s)he did never break one of those rules for infinitely more brittle reasons. I fail to see how equal treatment factors into the issue. When I visited my grandmother before a very critical operation (she unfortunately died in it), my school, and god knows I don't have a high regard for its administration, had no qualms whatsoever with excusing me from classes. Not one of my co-students felt violated over it, because - get this - they had no beloved one on the deadbed. He did not leave any one of his classes over this. He talked to his mother during his lunch break, which indicates to me that the call was already timed to the best available opportunity of all concerned. As such, he did not disturb or interrupt any single one person - unless you believe that to speak during lunch breaks constitutes a disruption. This is for all data I have available a stoid application of a rule intended to support, not penalize the pupils. If his conduct in response to this application was disorderly, I quite honestly do not dare, on the contrary, I salute him for standing up for something much more sensible than most 17 years olds waste their time on. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> But thats just the problem. I'd love to keep the war out of it but it is purposefully added to the article JUST to make it seem that the school is wrong in their choice for disciplining him, thats what I've got a problem with.
<!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+May 8 2005, 06:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ May 8 2005, 06:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> But thats just the problem. I'd love to keep the war out of it but it is purposefully added to the article JUST to make it seem that the school is wrong in their choice for disciplining him, thats what I've got a problem with. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> So criticise the journalist. You kept bashing the student.
I think the faculty were afraid that he would pull a... dare I say? <span style='font-size:6pt;line-height:100%'><a href='http://news.tbo.com/news/MGBH3Z6I98E.html' target='_blank'>Fairmount Park</a></span>
Yeah I do hate on the kid, because he can't follow simple rules. NO CELLPHONES= NO CELLPHONES. Not "If you feel your reason is good enough you may subvert the following statement." Whats so hard about talking to her on lunch break or something. This entire situation sucks and its giving me a rash :|
You know, one more such remark and I'll replace the 'communist' in your name with 'bueraucrat' <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Feel free to continue to tell me that <b>rules are rules</b> I'll tell you, and the following is backed in legal theory, that <b>rules are to be followed in their spirit, not their words</b>. It isn't a new concept - check my Bible quote in the first post of this thread.
Oh, and he <i>did</i> talk to her on lunch break. As I said thrice in my previous post.
it doesn't matter if jesus called him on his cell. he was breaking the rules and he could have walked off school grounds and avoided suspension. fact is, he was acting like a jerkwad, and was treated like one. i don't see what the big deal is.
<!--QuoteBegin-kill4thrills+May 8 2005, 03:14 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (kill4thrills @ May 8 2005, 03:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> it doesn't matter if jesus called him on his cell. he was breaking the rules and he could have walked off school grounds and avoided suspension. fact is, he was acting like a jerkwad, and was treated like one. i don't see what the big deal is. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Um, you can't just walk out of school...
<!--QuoteBegin-kill4thrills+May 8 2005, 07:14 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (kill4thrills @ May 8 2005, 07:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> it doesn't matter if jesus called him on his cell. he was breaking the rules and he could have walked off school grounds and avoided suspension. fact is, he was acting like a jerkwad, and was treated like one. i don't see what the big deal is. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Do you have no feelings whatsoever? It's almost Mother's Day, the kid hasn't seen his mother in God knows how long, there's no guarantee that he would hear from her again before Mother's Day (or ever again, considering where she is right now...), it was during a LUNCH BREAK, and the kid didn't start cursing until the teachers had already forcibly ended his phone call after he had initially refused to end the call.
Rules are guidelines. They are meant to be interpreted to every situation, not blanketly applied. Blanket application of rules is simply an idiotic way to administrate, because there are always exceptions. The very fact that the school ducked out of the decision after it was made by shortening it to the amount of time that had already passed is evidence enough that even the principal realized he had made a mistake in suspending this kid.
<!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+May 8 2005, 07:46 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ May 8 2005, 07:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Well since my family sits in the poverty line set forth by the IRS Im going to go rob a bank because Im hungry. RULES ARE RULES AND ALL! LOLZ. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Commie, if you really can't see the difference between robbing a bank and talking to your mom in a warzone, then you don't need a poorhouse, you need an asylum.
<!--QuoteBegin-kill4thrills+May 8 2005, 06:14 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (kill4thrills @ May 8 2005, 06:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> it doesn't matter if jesus called him on his cell. he was breaking the rules and he could have walked off school grounds and avoided suspension. fact is, he was acting like a jerkwad, and was treated like one. i don't see what the big deal is. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Aight then
During school some day I'll go shoot your mom
When you get the phone call on your cell saying she's been shot 3 times, I want to see you put down the phone cause you're "in school"
If you have anything to say about that, and try to say you'd end the call... then I must call you a stupid **** and go hit little smurfs over the head to vent my anger
<!--QuoteBegin-BulletHead+May 8 2005, 06:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BulletHead @ May 8 2005, 06:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-kill4thrills+May 8 2005, 06:14 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (kill4thrills @ May 8 2005, 06:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> it doesn't matter if jesus called him on his cell. he was breaking the rules and he could have walked off school grounds and avoided suspension. fact is, he was acting like a jerkwad, and was treated like one. i don't see what the big deal is. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Aight then
During school some day I'll go shoot your mom
When you get the phone call on your cell saying she's been shot 3 times, I want to see you put down the phone cause you're "in school"
If you have anything to say about that, and try to say you'd end the call... then I must call you a stupid **** and go hit little smurfs over the head to vent my anger <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Thats inherently flawed, therefore invalid as an example because in such a situation they call you down to the office. (I have first hand experience in such an emergency, so yeah.)
<!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+May 8 2005, 10:05 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ May 8 2005, 10:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Using the war as a justification to break rules is something Im against, sorry. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> ..uh. Setting the war aside? She's still in a rather dangerous place O_o;
It's lunch time during school. CWAG is eating his lunch and <s>is talking with his friends</s> is looking around. He has his cell phone on vibrate, and it starts a-shakin'. He flips it open, checks to see who's calling, see's that it's his mom, who is in Iraq, and thinks, "Hey, it's my mom, she's in Iraq, I wonder if she's OK. I'd like to talk to her but too bad there's a rule against cell phones." CWAG proudly supports school spirit and hits the ignore button.
I bet you're mom would be proud to know you hung up on her!
<!--QuoteBegin-Invader Scoot+May 8 2005, 10:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Invader Scoot @ May 8 2005, 10:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> So CWAG would do this...
It's lunch time during school. CWAG is eating his lunch and <s>is talking with his friends</s> is looking around. He has his cell phone on vibrate, and it starts a-shakin'. He flips it open, checks to see who's calling, see's that it's his mom, who is in Iraq, and thinks, "Hey, it's my mom, she's in Iraq, I wonder if she's OK. I'd like to talk to her but too bad there's a rule against cell phones." CWAG proudly supports school spirit and hits the ignore button.
I bet you're mom would be proud to know you hung up on her! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Or perhaps he would pick up, tell her to call him back later, and arrange a time with him and then they would. I don't see what's so hard about it. My relatives managed this pretty easily. So did my friend doing SatComm.
<!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+May 8 2005, 10:08 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ May 8 2005, 10:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-BulletHead+May 8 2005, 06:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BulletHead @ May 8 2005, 06:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-kill4thrills+May 8 2005, 06:14 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (kill4thrills @ May 8 2005, 06:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> it doesn't matter if jesus called him on his cell. he was breaking the rules and he could have walked off school grounds and avoided suspension. fact is, he was acting like a jerkwad, and was treated like one. i don't see what the big deal is. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Aight then
During school some day I'll go shoot your mom
When you get the phone call on your cell saying she's been shot 3 times, I want to see you put down the phone cause you're "in school"
If you have anything to say about that, and try to say you'd end the call... then I must call you a stupid **** and go hit little smurfs over the head to vent my anger <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Thats inherently flawed, therefore invalid as an example because in such a situation they call you down to the office. (I have first hand experience in such an emergency, so yeah.) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> AHAHAH!
You have OBVIOUSLY never gone to CD High School (aka Druggie High)
They don't care if GOD came to town (they'd prolly give you OSS for trying to go see him)
Some schools just plain suck... their rules are horrible, the teachers (majority of them) suck bat arse, and the principals are ****...
*sigh*
BTW- being in Iraq... getting a cell call off prolly isn't that easy
1) Reception? 2) TIME to call? When? 3) Where, how, when? 4) Finding a phone NOT burried under dust and sand 5) Staying alive
when you're talking in a cell phone in CLASS you are disturbing the other students. instead of explaining calmly to the teacher that he wants to excused to talk to his mom in iraq, he started acting like an idiot and started swearing. IF it was news that his mom had passed, then yeah, he'd deserve some sympathy, but under the circumstances he was just acting like a jerk for no good reason and he got treated like one.
if he had explained that it was his mom from iraq, and asked POLITELY to be excused, i'm sure the teacher would have excused him, and there would have been no incident. i see no reason that would warrant his idiotic and abusive behavior
<!--QuoteBegin-kill4thrills+May 9 2005, 12:12 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (kill4thrills @ May 9 2005, 12:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> when you're talking in a cell phone in CLASS you are disturbing the other students. instead of explaining calmly to the teacher that he wants to excused to talk to his mom in iraq, he started acting like an idiot and started swearing. IF it was news that his mom had passed, then yeah, he'd deserve some sympathy, but under the circumstances he was just acting like a jerk for no good reason and he got treated like one.
if he had explained that it was his mom from iraq, and asked POLITELY to be excused, i'm sure the teacher would have excused him, and there would have been no incident. i see no reason that would warrant his idiotic and abusive behavior <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Jesus, does anyone read this stuff before they make arguements.
The kid was NOT in class! It was lunch.
CWAG - The war isn't being used to justify anything, the justification is that its his fricking mother, the woman who gave birth to him and is currently stationed in a WARZONE. Suppose that was his mother calling him with the last ounce of strength she had after a car bomb went off?
<!--QuoteBegin-Elderwyrm+May 9 2005, 12:42 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Elderwyrm @ May 9 2005, 12:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Suppose that was his mother calling him with the last ounce of strength she had after a car bomb went off? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Then it'd be a different situation than it is now, since that wasn't the case.
If it was the case, you could be that the media would have reported it so.
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sometimes i just dont understand the American way of thinking <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
you are win <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
who does understand the american way of thinking? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
How the hell is this "the American way of thinking"? There are people from America right in this thread saying how frickin idiotic this is. If someone does something stupid in Germany, England, Canada, wherever, does that mean they're following their countries' "way of thinking?". No, they're just a moron. Which is what you two are, thinking that this school administration represents something all Americans agree with. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
People LOVE to generalize, sky. Give up. We're just going to be represented by the idiots within our country. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
because we are so evil when we are making jokes about America? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Did I say that, or are you putting words in my mouth? I wonder. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Thats just bloody stupid TBH, I've gotten suspended cause I tore up a newspaper that someone who was hitting me over the head repeatedly with. Now, he got off scott free, I dont know how or why, but I got the suspension and had to go to 'anger management class' when I was simply defending myself.
The entire point is that he WASN'T civil about it. He cursed and made a big deal out of a little thing, that's why he got 10 days suspended.
He got what he deserved, or well, was going to get what he deserved until he called upon the countries blind patriotism to support him.
The entire point is that he WASN'T civil about it. He cursed and made a big deal out of a little thing, that's why he got 10 days suspended.
He got what he deserved, or well, was going to get what he deserved until he called upon the countries blind patriotism to support him. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I should have said "He was civil AT FIRST".
This has nothing - <i>nothing</i> - to do with the war. If his mother had been in hospital for a difficult operation, if she had been in an accident, if there had been any other such extreme situation, my opinion would've been the exact same - and consider that lethal danger is not a necessary ingredient of an extreme situation. Imagine his mother was away on a business endeavour for half a year and could only contact him at that time. (By the way, if you remember, I'm a German citizen not exactly in favor of Bush's policy, so don't try to play the 'hollow patriotism' card against me.)
"Rules are rules." - Don't make me laugh. We're talking about a high school codex here. I dare any one of the board members in or beyond higher education to claim that (s)he did never break one of those rules for infinitely more brittle reasons. I fail to see how equal treatment factors into the issue. When I visited my grandmother before a very critical operation (she unfortunately died in it), my school, and god knows I don't have a high regard for its administration, had no qualms whatsoever with excusing me from classes. Not one of my co-students felt violated over it, because - get this - they had no beloved one on the deadbed.
He did not leave any one of his classes over this. He talked to his mother during his lunch break, which indicates to me that the call was already timed to the best available opportunity of all concerned. As such, he did not disturb or interrupt any single one person - unless you believe that to speak during lunch breaks constitutes a disruption.
This is for all data I have available a stoid application of a rule intended to support, not penalize the pupils. If his conduct in response to this application was disorderly, I quite honestly do not dare, on the contrary, I salute him for standing up for something much more sensible than most 17 years olds waste their time on. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
But thats just the problem. I'd love to keep the war out of it but it is purposefully added to the article JUST to make it seem that the school is wrong in their choice for disciplining him, thats what I've got a problem with.
So criticise the journalist. You kept bashing the student.
Feel free to continue to tell me that <b>rules are rules</b> I'll tell you, and the following is backed in legal theory, that <b>rules are to be followed in their spirit, not their words</b>. It isn't a new concept - check my Bible quote in the first post of this thread.
Oh, and he <i>did</i> talk to her on lunch break. As I said thrice in my previous post.
Um, you can't just walk out of school...
Do you have no feelings whatsoever? It's almost Mother's Day, the kid hasn't seen his mother in God knows how long, there's no guarantee that he would hear from her again before Mother's Day (or ever again, considering where she is right now...), it was during a LUNCH BREAK, and the kid didn't start cursing until the teachers had already forcibly ended his phone call after he had initially refused to end the call.
Rules are guidelines. They are meant to be interpreted to every situation, not blanketly applied. Blanket application of rules is simply an idiotic way to administrate, because there are always exceptions. The very fact that the school ducked out of the decision after it was made by shortening it to the amount of time that had already passed is evidence enough that even the principal realized he had made a mistake in suspending this kid.
Commie, if you really can't see the difference between robbing a bank and talking to your mom in a warzone, then you don't need a poorhouse, you need an asylum.
Aight then
During school some day I'll go shoot your mom
When you get the phone call on your cell saying she's been shot 3 times, I want to see you put down the phone cause you're "in school"
If you have anything to say about that, and try to say you'd end the call... then I must call you a stupid **** and go hit little smurfs over the head to vent my anger
Aight then
During school some day I'll go shoot your mom
When you get the phone call on your cell saying she's been shot 3 times, I want to see you put down the phone cause you're "in school"
If you have anything to say about that, and try to say you'd end the call... then I must call you a stupid **** and go hit little smurfs over the head to vent my anger <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Thats inherently flawed, therefore invalid as an example because in such a situation they call you down to the office. (I have first hand experience in such an emergency, so yeah.)
..uh. Setting the war aside? She's still in a rather dangerous place O_o;
It's lunch time during school. CWAG is eating his lunch and <s>is talking with his friends</s> is looking around. He has his cell phone on vibrate, and it starts a-shakin'. He flips it open, checks to see who's calling, see's that it's his mom, who is in Iraq, and thinks, "Hey, it's my mom, she's in Iraq, I wonder if she's OK. I'd like to talk to her but too bad there's a rule against cell phones." CWAG proudly supports school spirit and hits the ignore button.
I bet you're mom would be proud to know you hung up on her!
It's lunch time during school. CWAG is eating his lunch and <s>is talking with his friends</s> is looking around. He has his cell phone on vibrate, and it starts a-shakin'. He flips it open, checks to see who's calling, see's that it's his mom, who is in Iraq, and thinks, "Hey, it's my mom, she's in Iraq, I wonder if she's OK. I'd like to talk to her but too bad there's a rule against cell phones." CWAG proudly supports school spirit and hits the ignore button.
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Or perhaps he would pick up, tell her to call him back later, and arrange a time with him and then they would. I don't see what's so hard about it. My relatives managed this pretty easily. So did my friend doing SatComm.
Aight then
During school some day I'll go shoot your mom
When you get the phone call on your cell saying she's been shot 3 times, I want to see you put down the phone cause you're "in school"
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Thats inherently flawed, therefore invalid as an example because in such a situation they call you down to the office. (I have first hand experience in such an emergency, so yeah.) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
AHAHAH!
You have OBVIOUSLY never gone to CD High School (aka Druggie High)
They don't care if GOD came to town (they'd prolly give you OSS for trying to go see him)
Some schools just plain suck... their rules are horrible, the teachers (majority of them) suck bat arse, and the principals are ****...
*sigh*
BTW- being in Iraq... getting a cell call off prolly isn't that easy
1) Reception?
2) TIME to call? When?
3) Where, how, when?
4) Finding a phone NOT burried under dust and sand
5) Staying alive
if he had explained that it was his mom from iraq, and asked POLITELY to be excused, i'm sure the teacher would have excused him, and there would have been no incident. i see no reason that would warrant his idiotic and abusive behavior
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Jesus, does anyone read this stuff before they make arguements.
The kid was NOT in class! It was lunch.
CWAG - The war isn't being used to justify anything, the justification is that its his fricking mother, the woman who gave birth to him and is currently stationed in a WARZONE. Suppose that was his mother calling him with the last ounce of strength she had after a car bomb went off?
Then it'd be a different situation than it is now, since that wasn't the case.
If it was the case, you could be that the media would have reported it so.