How To Permanently Delete Data Information?

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  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Mantrid+May 27 2005, 12:37 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mantrid @ May 27 2005, 12:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Cold NiTe+May 26 2005, 01:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold NiTe @ May 26 2005, 01:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-AnarkiThreeXSix+May 26 2005, 04:02 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AnarkiThreeXSix @ May 26 2005, 04:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> :o teh fbi coming to steal your unmentionables! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    My underpants!!! Where haev tehy <s><b>= teh</b></s> gone?!?

    FBIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111 <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Grammar.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Not <b>the</b>, <b>they</b>.
  • MantridMantrid Lockpick Join Date: 2003-12-07 Member: 24109Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Cold NiTe+May 26 2005, 09:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold NiTe @ May 26 2005, 09:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Mantrid+May 27 2005, 12:37 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mantrid @ May 27 2005, 12:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Cold NiTe+May 26 2005, 01:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold NiTe @ May 26 2005, 01:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-AnarkiThreeXSix+May 26 2005, 04:02 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AnarkiThreeXSix @ May 26 2005, 04:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> :o teh fbi coming to steal your unmentionables! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    My underpants!!! Where haev tehy <s><b>= teh</b></s> gone?!?

    FBIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111 <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Grammar.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Not <b>the</b>, <b>they</b>. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I'm aware "tehy" means "they". However, its usually acceptable to add "=" in a statement, and, as we all know, the modifier "teh" should be used liberally.
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    edited May 2005
    Stop it just stop it! I'm losing what little is left of my sanity trying to justify my using one word offer teh udder to u k i can't evn thnk strt ne mr....

    ...

    ****.
  • ChronoChrono Local flyboy Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18989Members
    smash it up good with a hammer then grind it up then melt the grinded up pieces and mold it into a cube and store the cube in the most secure vault in the world
  • theclamtheclam Join Date: 2004-08-01 Member: 30290Members
    Completely melt the disk. There's nothing they can do to recover information after that.
  • im_lostim_lost TWG Rule Guru Join Date: 2003-04-26 Member: 15861Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-theclam+May 26 2005, 11:53 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (theclam @ May 26 2005, 11:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Completely melt the disk. There's nothing they can do to recover information after that. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Short of traveling back in time to take it from you, that is.
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-im lost+May 27 2005, 02:02 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (im lost @ May 27 2005, 02:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-theclam+May 26 2005, 11:53 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (theclam @ May 26 2005, 11:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Completely melt the disk.  There's nothing they can do to recover information after that. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Short of traveling back in time to take it from you, that is. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I'm pretty sure that's when you break out the aluminum foil.
  • Seph_KimaraSeph_Kimara Join Date: 2003-08-10 Member: 19359Members
  • AbraAbra Would you kindly Join Date: 2003-08-17 Member: 19870Members
    KILL EIIT HARRDD!!
  • Speed_2_DaveSpeed_2_Dave Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8788Members
    Thermite. Thermite tends to melt things pretty good. (go go thebr0ken!)
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    I stopped hiding my pr0n, my whole family knows Im into asian chicks :\
  • DrSuredeathDrSuredeath Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8217Members
    edited May 2005
    You know, if we manage to publish a program that does this for a major company, we could be millionaires.
  • NikonNikon Join Date: 2003-09-29 Member: 21313Members, Constellation
    afaik, there is not sure way to 'cover up' datat with a simple program, seeing as how true HDD data recovery tech's use and O-Scope to recover the data. Ive seen data recovered off a laptop HDD that had been run over by a car using an O-Scope. DESTROY IT!
  • Lt_PatchLt_Patch Join Date: 2005-02-07 Member: 40286Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Quaunaut+May 27 2005, 05:24 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ May 27 2005, 05:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Let me ask this, as a legality. Its a hypothetical question based on something in the real world that is all-to-common, but I'd like to know if anyone would know the punishments for this happening through a computer.

    Lets say you've got a girl and a boy. Their both under 18, and well away from it. Lets then say that the girl takes a video of her pleasuring herself, and sent it to her boyfriend. Could this be considered child pornography, and in that case, who would go to jail? The boy(even if under 18), or the boy's parents? The girl/her parents?

    Whether you believe me or not, this is hypothetical. But over here there are a lot of girls taking videos of themselves doing this, and sending it to their boyfriends, but I've yet to hear of any of them being cought. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Hmm, good question Quau.

    However, it is a criminal offence for <b><u>ANYONE</u></b> to own any pornographic materials containing people under the age of 18, even if the person who owns it is under 18 themselves. But, if the minor lived at home, then it would be the parents that get charged with the offence, as they are the legal guardians of the minor, and should, therefore, be responsible for that minor actions, in a legal sense.

    For all those confused, the short answer would be <b><u>YES</u></b>

    <!--QuoteBegin-CWAG+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CWAG)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I stopped hiding my pr0n, my whole family knows Im into asian chicks :\<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->QFT, why bother hide it. Anyone can get round Windows security to get at your whole collection of porn, hell, I can do it to any system that is networked to my own! Porn hides not from me. Especially after having to track a load down one day at work. <!--QuoteBegin-Customer+ work--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Customer @ work)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->My Son doesn't go on those kinds of sites...<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->Tell that to the 3 pages of cookies, IE history, and file locations that we pulled from his PC...
  • CyndaneCyndane Join Date: 2003-11-15 Member: 22913Members
    edited May 2005
    Magnet IN YOUR EYE!!!!

    On a more related note, you could always just fill it up with over 168,000 files of virii, and well over 90K DIFFERENT ONES.

    Create the matrix on a singular 80GB hard drive, and there you go, its gone, and it RULES THE WORLD.
  • im_lostim_lost TWG Rule Guru Join Date: 2003-04-26 Member: 15861Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Lt Patch+May 27 2005, 10:38 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lt Patch @ May 27 2005, 10:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-CWAG+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CWAG)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I stopped hiding my pr0n, my whole family knows Im into asian chicks :\<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->QFT, why bother hide it. Anyone can get round Windows security to get at your whole collection of porn, hell, I can do it to any system that is networked to my own! Porn hides not from me. Especially after having to track a load down one day at work. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Would that still be the case if the file name and extension were changed (to a real file extension), then thrown in the most random directory imaginable?
  • NecroticNecrotic Big Girl&#39;s Blouse Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 53Members, NS1 Playtester
    I had a piece of software that would delete files overwrite the space with garbage data then delete that ad nauseam took about 3 hours to do one small file, then I thought "why the hell do I need this?" and stopped using it.

    I cannot for the life of me remember the name of the software no doubt it was some "eLITe HaCKeR" tool I got in my youth but sounds like thats what you want.
  • SaltzBadSaltzBad Join Date: 2004-02-23 Member: 26833Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-im lost+May 27 2005, 01:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (im lost @ May 27 2005, 01:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Lt Patch+May 27 2005, 10:38 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lt Patch @ May 27 2005, 10:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-CWAG+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CWAG)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I stopped hiding my pr0n, my whole family knows Im into asian chicks :\<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->QFT, why bother hide it. Anyone can get round Windows security to get at your whole collection of porn, hell, I can do it to any system that is networked to my own! Porn hides not from me. Especially after having to track a load down one day at work. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Would that still be the case if the file name and extension were changed (to a real file extension), then thrown in the most random directory imaginable? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Filesizes are a dead give-away, unless you have a really nice and cluttered system. Other than that, eh sure.
  • im_lostim_lost TWG Rule Guru Join Date: 2003-04-26 Member: 15861Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-SaltzBad+May 27 2005, 11:12 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SaltzBad @ May 27 2005, 11:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-im lost+May 27 2005, 01:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (im lost @ May 27 2005, 01:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Lt Patch+May 27 2005, 10:38 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lt Patch @ May 27 2005, 10:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-CWAG+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CWAG)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I stopped hiding my pr0n, my whole family knows Im into asian chicks :\<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->QFT, why bother hide it. Anyone can get round Windows security to get at your whole collection of porn, hell, I can do it to any system that is networked to my own! Porn hides not from me. Especially after having to track a load down one day at work. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Would that still be the case if the file name and extension were changed (to a real file extension), then thrown in the most random directory imaginable? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Filesizes are a dead give-away, unless you have a really nice and cluttered system. Other than that, eh sure. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    So use something like WinRAR to split it into smaller files first, and/or combine it into larger files (there's probably better software for that, but it would work).
  • SaltzBadSaltzBad Join Date: 2004-02-23 Member: 26833Members
    Why not just go jerk off at that point?
  • ChimpZealotChimpZealot The Elite Demo Detective Join Date: 2002-11-30 Member: 10315Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    I'm pretty sure I read that in order for a magnet to COMPLETELY screw up your hard drive, it would be so powerful that you'd have to use it in an empty airplane hangar (or something of equal size) to avoid damaging anything else.
  • ElvenThiefElvenThief aka Elven Thief (ex. NS Programmer) Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8754Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    As opposed to zero writing, I do suggest writing with random data generated from entropy pools like the linux kernel can create. Doing that many times not only screws your data, but makes it harder to determine if it was written over or original data.
  • MantridMantrid Lockpick Join Date: 2003-12-07 Member: 24109Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+May 27 2005, 08:00 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ May 27 2005, 08:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I stopped hiding my pr0n, my whole family knows Im into asian chicks :\ <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Don't hide it, just make it look corrupt! Make folders for .avi's, .mpeg's, et cetera, but name them something cryptic. Then, put your porn in there. Rename them using some sort of system, e.g., prefix anything with lesbians with an "l". Be creative. Then, remove the file extension. Whats left is a file with no extension and a garbled name.

    No one will look at it twice. Except you, of course.
  • BulletHeadBulletHead Join Date: 2004-07-22 Member: 30049Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Lt Patch+May 27 2005, 12:38 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lt Patch @ May 27 2005, 12:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Quaunaut+May 27 2005, 05:24 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ May 27 2005, 05:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Let me ask this, as a legality. Its a hypothetical question based on something in the real world that is all-to-common, but I'd like to know if anyone would know the punishments for this happening through a computer.

    Lets say you've got a girl and a boy. Their both under 18, and well away from it. Lets then say that the girl takes a video of her pleasuring herself, and sent it to her boyfriend. Could this be considered child pornography, and in that case, who would go to jail? The boy(even if under 18), or the boy's parents? The girl/her parents?

    Whether you believe me or not, this is hypothetical. But over here there are a lot of girls taking videos of themselves doing this, and sending it to their boyfriends, but I've yet to hear of any of them being cought. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Hmm, good question Quau.

    However, it is a criminal offence for <b><u>ANYONE</u></b> to own any pornographic materials containing people under the age of 18, even if the person who owns it is under 18 themselves. But, if the minor lived at home, then it would be the parents that get charged with the offence, as they are the legal guardians of the minor, and should, therefore, be responsible for that minor actions, in a legal sense.

    For all those confused, the short answer would be <b><u>YES</u></b>

    <!--QuoteBegin-CWAG+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CWAG)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I stopped hiding my pr0n, my whole family knows Im into asian chicks :\<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->QFT, why bother hide it. Anyone can get round Windows security to get at your whole collection of porn, hell, I can do it to any system that is networked to my own! Porn hides not from me. Especially after having to track a load down one day at work. <!--QuoteBegin-Customer+ work--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Customer @ work)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->My Son doesn't go on those kinds of sites...<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->Tell that to the 3 pages of cookies, IE history, and file locations that we pulled from his PC... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Mine can't be reached... >_>

    2 gig USB Flash Drive FTW- it ALWAYS stays in a secure location (aka, my pocket)
  • Sub_zer0Sub_zer0 Join Date: 2004-05-09 Member: 28569Members
    you guys really like pron huh?
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