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Don't think it would work in my car, not enough open dash space to easily mount the switch and my ash tray points upwards all the time, so I'd be afraid I would spill something in there all the time. Also, that gy puts waaaaay more overcurrent devices (fuses, other safety stuff) on there than is needed, but they're cheap I guess so it doesn't matter.
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<!--QuoteBegin-Cereal KillR+May 29 2005, 09:02 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cereal KillR @ May 29 2005, 09:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Heh, I thought some cars came in standard with 230V Outlets. I'd have thought it would be the same with 110V. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Gah since when? I can't think of any portable stuff that would require 240, and that would be really dangerous to anyone attempting maintanence on the car.
<!--QuoteBegin-AllUrHiveRblong2us+May 29 2005, 09:32 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AllUrHiveRblong2us @ May 29 2005, 09:32 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Cereal KillR+May 29 2005, 09:02 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cereal KillR @ May 29 2005, 09:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Heh, I thought some cars came in standard with 230V Outlets. I'd have thought it would be the same with 110V. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Gah since when? I can't think of any portable stuff that would require 240, and that would be really dangerous to anyone attempting maintanence on the car. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Isn't 230 V standard in Europe?
EDIT: That's a whole 10V less dangerous than 230!! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> It's said 220 but it's actually 230, just like 110 is more like 115.
The voltages are ranges, as they are not always 110 or 230.
It is more like 110-120, or 220-240. It all depends on the purity of the power (I know that sounds wierd) and how far away the source of the generation of the power is from where it is ending up. Which is why almost all electronic equipment which requires AC, will have a range of specficiations on it.
Example:
110V~120V. 220V~240V.
As for the automobiles that have stock inverters, they are usually fairly small in the wattage category, and are normaly switched on, (read: Only turn on when key is turned to ACC or IGNITION). If they were on constantly there would be always a chance of being electrified(shocked), not to be confused with electrocuted as that means you died.
<!--QuoteBegin-Cyndane+May 29 2005, 01:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cyndane @ May 29 2005, 01:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->If you reallywish to get technical.
The voltages are ranges, as they are not always 110 or 230.
It is more like 110-120, or 220-240. It all depends on the purity of the power (I know that sounds wierd) and how far away the source of the generation of the power is from where it is ending up. Which is why almost all electronic equipment which requires AC, will have a range of specficiations on it.
Example:
110V~120V. 220V~240V. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Actually as its AC, its 230* +/- 10% <i>rms</i>. Hence the peak voltage is a bit higher - approx. 339V.
<!--QuoteBegin-AllUrHiveRblong2us+May 29 2005, 04:53 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AllUrHiveRblong2us @ May 29 2005, 04:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Aw dang it is, I always forget that. You wacky Europeans with your very dangerous common voltage. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Heh, at least we can design a domestic mains supply with a good earthing system - unlike the USA.
The UK has some of the most stringent safety regulations in the world when it comes to electrical safety, and rightly so since we basically built the world as you know it.
<!--QuoteBegin-Gay Parrot of Doom+May 29 2005, 05:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gay Parrot of Doom @ May 29 2005, 05:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The UK has some of the most stringent safety regulations in the world when it comes to electrical safety, and rightly so since we basically built the world as you know it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Huh? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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<!--QuoteBegin-Gay Parrot of Doom+May 29 2005, 04:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gay Parrot of Doom @ May 29 2005, 04:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-AllUrHiveRblong2us+May 29 2005, 04:53 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AllUrHiveRblong2us @ May 29 2005, 04:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Aw dang it is, I always forget that. You wacky Europeans with your very dangerous common voltage. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Heh, at least we can design a domestic mains supply with a good earthing system - unlike the USA.
The UK has some of the most stringent safety regulations in the world when it comes to electrical safety, and rightly so since we basically built the world as you know it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Oh yeah, the UK requirement are soooo much more stringent, as opposed the US wherew I have to carry a several pound lawbook every where I go to work as an Electrician. And I'll tell you as someone who would have died unless such things existed, the US grounding systems are more than satisfactory for any fault situation.
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<!--QuoteBegin-Black Viper+May 29 2005, 04:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Black Viper @ May 29 2005, 04:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Besides a washer/dryer, what would you need a 220V in a car?
And just to let you know, its not the voltage that kills, its the amps. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> True, but it is extremely difficult to push fatal amperage through human skin at 120 volts.
And you wouldn't need 220 in a car, unless you were European and everything ran on that.
<!--QuoteBegin-AllUrHiveRblong2us+May 29 2005, 05:26 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AllUrHiveRblong2us @ May 29 2005, 05:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-**** Parrot of Doom+May 29 2005, 04:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (**** Parrot of Doom @ May 29 2005, 04:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-AllUrHiveRblong2us+May 29 2005, 04:53 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AllUrHiveRblong2us @ May 29 2005, 04:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Aw dang it is, I always forget that. You wacky Europeans with your very dangerous common voltage. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Heh, at least we can design a domestic mains supply with a good earthing system - unlike the USA.
The UK has some of the most stringent safety regulations in the world when it comes to electrical safety, and rightly so since we basically built the world as you know it. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Oh yeah, the UK requirement are soooo much more stringent, as opposed the US wherew I have to carry a several pound lawbook every where I go to work as an Electrician. And I'll tell you as someone who would have died unless such things existed, the US grounding systems are more than satisfactory for any fault situation. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> QFT! Couldn't agree with you more, as I do a good bit of electrical work myself.
<!--QuoteBegin-Black Viper+May 29 2005, 11:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Black Viper @ May 29 2005, 11:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Besides a washer/dryer, what would you need a 220V in a car? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> It's only 230V because that's the standard in Europe. That means anything like laptops, any charger or adapter, a TV, a shaver or anything does come in 230V. If there was an equivalent in the US, it would of course be 110V
<!--QuoteBegin-AllUrHiveRblong2us+May 29 2005, 05:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AllUrHiveRblong2us @ May 29 2005, 05:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I salute you, Home Depot man, now get me discounts on cordless power tools!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I would recommend the Dewalt line, which is very expensive but worth every penny. It's the brand your contractors prefer.
Bad news is I can't get you a discount. Hell, I never got a discount when I worked there (other than on my stock purchases) ... meh!
Back on topic, does anyone really use an inverter in their automobile? If so, for what?
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<!--QuoteBegin-Depot+May 29 2005, 05:00 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Depot @ May 29 2005, 05:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-AllUrHiveRblong2us+May 29 2005, 05:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AllUrHiveRblong2us @ May 29 2005, 05:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I salute you, Home Depot man, now get me discounts on cordless power tools!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I would recommend the Dewalt line, which is very expensive but worth every penny. It's the brand your contractors prefer. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Oddly, I have found that most electricians prefer Milwaukee brand because of the metal cutting 18v circular saw and cuz they make the hole hog we electricians trust 'em. Although I personally am still stuck with the Harry Homeowner style Ryobi tools cuz I'm an apprentice and don't get payed squat. Everyone always gives me crap about 'em.
<!--QuoteBegin-AllUrHiveRblong2us+May 29 2005, 06:10 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AllUrHiveRblong2us @ May 29 2005, 06:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Depot+May 29 2005, 05:00 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Depot @ May 29 2005, 05:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-AllUrHiveRblong2us+May 29 2005, 05:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AllUrHiveRblong2us @ May 29 2005, 05:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I salute you, Home Depot man, now get me discounts on cordless power tools!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I would recommend the Dewalt line, which is very expensive but worth every penny. It's the brand your contractors prefer. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Oddly, I have found that most electricians prefer Milwaukee brand because of the metal cutting 18v circular saw and cuz they make the hole hog we electricians trust 'em. Although I personally am still stuck with the Harry Homeowner style Ryobi tools cuz I'm an apprentice and don't get payed squat. Everyone always gives me crap about 'em. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Roffles @ <u>the Harry Homeowner style Ryobi tools</u>. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> I have an 18v Ryobi Combo Kit myself. Just bought a new pair of batteries for it. Did you know Home Depot owns the Ryobi electrical division?
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Yessir I did, That's why you can only buy 'em at the H Dizzle. I got the 18v combo and the recip. saw, I want the speed saw real bad, but my charger recently got stolen along with a battery so I gotta buy a new set of those first.
The chainsaw would be pretty cool to, just cuz it's a cordless electrical chainsaw!
<!--QuoteBegin-AllUrHiveRblong2us+May 29 2005, 07:42 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AllUrHiveRblong2us @ May 29 2005, 07:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yessir I did, That's why you can only buy 'em at the H Dizzle. I got the 18v combo and the recip. saw, I want the speed saw real bad, but my charger recently got stolen along with a battery so I gotta buy a new set of those first.
The chainsaw would be pretty cool to, just cuz it's a cordless electrical chainsaw! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Don't ... waste ... your money ... on an electric chainsaw. Ever. <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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Gah since when? I can't think of any portable stuff that would require 240, and that would be really dangerous to anyone attempting maintanence on the car.
Gah since when? I can't think of any portable stuff that would require 240, and that would be really dangerous to anyone attempting maintanence on the car. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Isn't 230 V standard in Europe?
EDIT: That's a whole 10V less dangerous than 230!!
I'll bet it drains your battery fairly fast with some appliances.
EDIT: That's a whole 10V less dangerous than 230!! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
It's said 220 but it's actually 230, just like 110 is more like 115.
The voltages are ranges, as they are not always 110 or 230.
It is more like 110-120, or 220-240. It all depends on the purity of the power (I know that sounds wierd) and how far away the source of the generation of the power is from where it is ending up. Which is why almost all electronic equipment which requires AC, will have a range of specficiations on it.
Example:
110V~120V.
220V~240V.
As for the automobiles that have stock inverters, they are usually fairly small in the wattage category, and are normaly switched on, (read: Only turn on when key is turned to ACC or IGNITION). If they were on constantly there would be always a chance of being electrified(shocked), not to be confused with electrocuted as that means you died.
The voltages are ranges, as they are not always 110 or 230.
It is more like 110-120, or 220-240. It all depends on the purity of the power (I know that sounds wierd) and how far away the source of the generation of the power is from where it is ending up. Which is why almost all electronic equipment which requires AC, will have a range of specficiations on it.
Example:
110V~120V.
220V~240V.
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Actually as its AC, its 230* +/- 10% <i>rms</i>. Hence the peak voltage is a bit higher - approx. 339V.
*230 +/- 10% in the Uk at least.
Same goes for american voltage, it is 10% of rms, which is 110-120.
Example of a converter below.
<img src='http://xs30.xs.to/pics/05210/voltage.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
Heh, at least we can design a domestic mains supply with a good earthing system - unlike the USA.
The UK has some of the most stringent safety regulations in the world when it comes to electrical safety, and rightly so since we basically built the world as you know it.
Huh? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Heh, at least we can design a domestic mains supply with a good earthing system - unlike the USA.
The UK has some of the most stringent safety regulations in the world when it comes to electrical safety, and rightly so since we basically built the world as you know it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Oh yeah, the UK requirement are soooo much more stringent, as opposed the US wherew I have to carry a several pound lawbook every where I go to work as an Electrician. And I'll tell you as someone who would have died unless such things existed, the US grounding systems are more than satisfactory for any fault situation.
And just to let you know, its not the voltage that kills, its the amps.
And just to let you know, its not the voltage that kills, its the amps. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
True, but it is extremely difficult to push fatal amperage through human skin at 120 volts.
And you wouldn't need 220 in a car, unless you were European and everything ran on that.
Heh, at least we can design a domestic mains supply with a good earthing system - unlike the USA.
The UK has some of the most stringent safety regulations in the world when it comes to electrical safety, and rightly so since we basically built the world as you know it. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Oh yeah, the UK requirement are soooo much more stringent, as opposed the US wherew I have to carry a several pound lawbook every where I go to work as an Electrician. And I'll tell you as someone who would have died unless such things existed, the US grounding systems are more than satisfactory for any fault situation. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
QFT! Couldn't agree with you more, as I do a good bit of electrical work myself.
It's only 230V because that's the standard in Europe. That means anything like laptops, any charger or adapter, a TV, a shaver or anything does come in 230V. If there was an equivalent in the US, it would of course be 110V
I would recommend the Dewalt line, which is very expensive but worth every penny. It's the brand your contractors prefer.
Bad news is I can't get you a discount. Hell, I never got a discount when I worked there (other than on my stock purchases) ... meh!
Back on topic, does anyone really use an inverter in their automobile? If so, for what?
I would recommend the Dewalt line, which is very expensive but worth every penny. It's the brand your contractors prefer. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Oddly, I have found that most electricians prefer Milwaukee brand because of the metal cutting 18v circular saw and cuz they make the hole hog we electricians trust 'em. Although I personally am still stuck with the Harry Homeowner style Ryobi tools cuz I'm an apprentice and don't get payed squat. Everyone always gives me crap about 'em.
I would recommend the Dewalt line, which is very expensive but worth every penny. It's the brand your contractors prefer. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Oddly, I have found that most electricians prefer Milwaukee brand because of the metal cutting 18v circular saw and cuz they make the hole hog we electricians trust 'em. Although I personally am still stuck with the Harry Homeowner style Ryobi tools cuz I'm an apprentice and don't get payed squat. Everyone always gives me crap about 'em. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Roffles @ <u>the Harry Homeowner style Ryobi tools</u>. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> I have an 18v Ryobi Combo Kit myself. Just bought a new pair of batteries for it. Did you know Home Depot owns the Ryobi electrical division?
The chainsaw would be pretty cool to, just cuz it's a cordless electrical chainsaw!
The chainsaw would be pretty cool to, just cuz it's a cordless electrical chainsaw! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Don't ... waste ... your money ... on an electric chainsaw. Ever. <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->