Ns_enceladus - Back From The Grave

Sir_PepeSir_Pepe Join Date: 2002-12-15 Member: 10845Members
edited June 2005 in Mapping Forum
<div class="IPBDescription">ready for some more testing</div> =================
<span style='color:red'><span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>NS_ENCELADUS V <b>003</b></span></span>
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Updated 14/6/05

New in 003:
- Fixed sky-related builing problems
- Made the spot Zunni mentioned passable for Skulks

<a href='http://www.planet-pepe.net/files/ns_enceladus_003.zip' target='_blank'><b>DOWNLOAD NS_ENCELADUS_003</b></a>

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Well, it's been a long time, but here's your new version of ns_enceladus. I'm sorry i can't give you a proper changelog but because previous versions had no version numbers (very stupid, i know) i have no idea wich ns_enceladus (if any) is played out there. And, franky, even i don't know everything that changed since the last release. It just took to long... work ate all my time and windows ate the few notes i took about some smaller changes. At least i didn't lose any important files this time <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

But this will be a fresh start. From now on, ns_enceladus will have version numbers and i will try to keep record of any changes that may happen in future.

That said, the most important things (as far as i remember) in this release are:
- Pipeline-Hive completly rebuild, renamed to Omega Cluster
- 2 additional resnozzles near Hive Chamber and Omega Cluster
- removed and/or fixed everything that didn't work or was buggy in previous versions (mainly the useless and not working weldable near Maintainance Nozzle)
- took care of (hopefully) all HOMs in the map
- added as much detail as the compilers would let me (not that much)
- added some new vents here an there

<a href='http://www.planet-pepe.net/stuff/~nsworld/ns_enceladus/01.jpg' target='_blank'><img src='http://www.planet-pepe.net/stuff/~nsworld/ns_enceladus/tn_01.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' /></a> <a href='http://www.planet-pepe.net/stuff/~nsworld/ns_enceladus/02.jpg' target='_blank'><img src='http://www.planet-pepe.net/stuff/~nsworld/ns_enceladus/tn_02.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' /></a> <a href='http://www.planet-pepe.net/stuff/~nsworld/ns_enceladus/03.jpg' target='_blank'><img src='http://www.planet-pepe.net/stuff/~nsworld/ns_enceladus/tn_03.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' /></a>

<a href='http://www.planet-pepe.net/stuff/~nsworld/ns_enceladus/04.jpg' target='_blank'><img src='http://www.planet-pepe.net/stuff/~nsworld/ns_enceladus/tn_04.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' /></a> <a href='http://www.planet-pepe.net/stuff/~nsworld/ns_enceladus/05.jpg' target='_blank'><img src='http://www.planet-pepe.net/stuff/~nsworld/ns_enceladus/tn_05.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' /></a> <a href='http://www.planet-pepe.net/stuff/~nsworld/ns_enceladus/06.jpg' target='_blank'><img src='http://www.planet-pepe.net/stuff/~nsworld/ns_enceladus/tn_06.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' /></a>

<a href='http://www.planet-pepe.net/stuff/~nsworld/ns_enceladus/07.jpg' target='_blank'><img src='http://www.planet-pepe.net/stuff/~nsworld/ns_enceladus/tn_07.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' /></a> <a href='http://www.planet-pepe.net/stuff/~nsworld/ns_enceladus/08.jpg' target='_blank'><img src='http://www.planet-pepe.net/stuff/~nsworld/ns_enceladus/tn_08.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' /></a> <a href='http://www.planet-pepe.net/stuff/~nsworld/ns_enceladus/09.jpg' target='_blank'><img src='http://www.planet-pepe.net/stuff/~nsworld/ns_enceladus/tn_09.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' /></a>

<a href='http://www.planet-pepe.net/stuff/~nsworld/ns_enceladus/10.jpg' target='_blank'><img src='http://www.planet-pepe.net/stuff/~nsworld/ns_enceladus/tn_10.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' /></a> <a href='http://www.planet-pepe.net/stuff/~nsworld/ns_enceladus/11.jpg' target='_blank'><img src='http://www.planet-pepe.net/stuff/~nsworld/ns_enceladus/tn_11.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' /></a> <a href='http://www.planet-pepe.net/stuff/~nsworld/ns_enceladus/12.jpg' target='_blank'><img src='http://www.planet-pepe.net/stuff/~nsworld/ns_enceladus/tn_12.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' /></a>

<a href='http://www.planet-pepe.net/stuff/~nsworld/ns_enceladus/overview.jpg' target='_blank'><b>Overview</b></a>

And i promise: this time the next version won't take half a century <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • cariocacarioca Join Date: 2003-09-02 Member: 20511Members
    edited May 2005
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    i will test later ^^
    nice to hear this is alive.
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  • Invader_ScootInvader_Scoot Join Date: 2003-10-13 Member: 21669Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    That reminds me, once I get a final version of fenris, I'll be sending you the source. Well, if you want it. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • Fatal_ErrorFatal_Error Join Date: 2005-01-15 Member: 35840Members
    Holy crap, enceladus used to be my favorite map, along with fenris! Much love!
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  • Sir_PepeSir_Pepe Join Date: 2002-12-15 Member: 10845Members
    *bump*

    You don't really want to tell me there's nothing to complain about, do you?
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  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    edited June 2005
    Its' the worst map evar <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    I must have missed the thread when it was first created. I'm downloading now and I will produce some comments on it later on tonight! Although on another note, I like the newer and what seems darker lighting in this version.

    [EDIT] I should never joke that enceladus is the worst map ever. Someone slap me.
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  • Lt_GravityLt_Gravity Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15909Members
    edited June 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-Sir Pepe+Jun 1 2005, 06:22 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sir Pepe @ Jun 1 2005, 06:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> *bump*

    You don't really want to tell me there's nothing to complain about, do you? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    there were some people helping you with that. and they did a great job <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    I may be wrong... but where is the res-file?
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  • Invader_ScootInvader_Scoot Join Date: 2003-10-13 Member: 21669Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-Sir Pepe+Jun 1 2005, 06:22 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sir Pepe @ Jun 1 2005, 06:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> *bump*

    You don't really want to tell me there's nothing to complain about, do you? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    As soon as fenris is done compiling I'll give it a look over. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • Dr_ZenzDr_Zenz Join Date: 2003-10-26 Member: 21986Members
    Great Map!
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  • ZunniZunni The best thing to happen to I&amp;S in a long while Join Date: 2002-11-26 Member: 10016Members
    OK I just went through here, and I'm very impressed with the completeness and the atmosphere you have in this map, very nicely done.

    Few bugs, from the comm chair, you can drop objects ON TOP of the roof.. Here's an exmaple

    <img src='http://fc.gedsb.net/~windlema/enceladus1.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

    <img src='http://fc.gedsb.net/~windlema/enceladus2.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

    There was also a spot that looked like I should be able to pass through it as a skulk but I couldn't...

    Here

    <img src='http://fc.gedsb.net/~windlema/enceladus3.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />


    TBH, I think this map will heavily favour marines with the wide-open hallways, but you have mixed in a lot of really nice cover elements.

    I'll add this map to the potential list and we'll see how she plays <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • Sir_PepeSir_Pepe Join Date: 2002-12-15 Member: 10845Members
    edited June 2005
    <span style='color:red'><b>VERSION 003 RELEASED!</b></span>

    New in 003:
    - Fixed sky-related builing problems
    - Made the spot Zunni mentioned passable for Skulks

    That's not the most impressive changelog ever, but who cares.

    <a href='http://www.planet-pepe.net/files/ns_enceladus_003.zip' target='_blank'><b>DOWNLOAD NS_ENCELADUS_003</b></a>
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  • TheJimTheJim Join Date: 2005-01-09 Member: 34080Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Sir Pepe+Jun 14 2005, 01:19 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sir Pepe @ Jun 14 2005, 01:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <span style='color:red'><b>VERSION 003 RELEASED!</b></span>

    New in 003:
    - Fixed sky-related builing problems
    - Made the spot Zunni mentioned passable for Skulks

    That's not the most impressive changelog ever, but who cares.

    <a href='http://www.planet-pepe.net/files/ns_enceladus_003.zip' target='_blank'><b>DOWNLOAD NS_ENCELADUS_003</b></a> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    A short changelog is an amazing changelog so yes it is the best one so far as you had to fix less errors <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • CrispyCrispy Jaded GD Join Date: 2004-08-22 Member: 30793Members, Constellation
    edited June 2005
    Centrally-located MS, huh?

    It looks (from the layout) like you've thought a fair bit about how to structure this to allow Aliens to get between the Hives quickly and Marines to slowly make their way towards one of the Hives to lock it down. The south is a long route and the other two Hives pretty much need welding for the Marines to access them via the shortest routes.

    I'm not sure what'll happen when JPs are available, or how well the Hives are connected for Gorges. It will be a very different style of play to the generic map layout, and people probably won't like it at first, but to the naysayers I'd say give it a good few rounds before you start criticising anything. This type of map will require some adjustment.

    It seems like Marines will have to play this as a group and turtle towards the Hive of their choice. Splitting up and going for multiple Hives or res nodes in opposite directions probably won't be very productive as Aliens will be able to cover the large distances more quickly. I'd definitely say that Aliens can't afford not to parasite, though.

    My advice to you, Pepe, is to check the vents to make sure that the important ones can't just be mined to cut off Alien Hive-Hive/Hive-RT movement. Also be aware of Gorge and Onos movement options and edit the map accordingly if needed.

    I need to walkthrough this map sometime :/
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  • SgtBarlowSgtBarlow Level Designer Join Date: 2003-11-13 Member: 22749Members, NS2 Developer
    I have had a few number of people complaining about crashes when they walk somewhere, Caused by a model, I dont have any more specific information but I will try and find out what it is and get back to ya.
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  • Steel_TrollSteel_Troll Join Date: 2004-02-12 Member: 26455Members
    edited June 2005
    I played this last night and loved it, but it kept d'cing me saying b_restowermodel.mdl or something like that was missing, everytime i moved BACK towards the hive.

    I LOVE the background noise on the computers, more maps should have it.
    I will add some more comments later...
    I LOVE the snowstorm
    I think there should be a more marked light variation, its a bit too fullbright in places, ill show some examples later.

    EDIT:Yep Barlow i was one of the people . Ill try get the model name later, im at school now...
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  • Sir_PepeSir_Pepe Join Date: 2002-12-15 Member: 10845Members
    edited June 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I played this last night and loved it, but it kept d'cing me saying b_restowermodel.mdl or something like that was missing, everytime i moved BACK towards the hive.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Sounds like my custom infested resnozzle is making trouble.

    <img src='http://www.planet-pepe.net/stuff/nozzle.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

    Shouldn't be too hard to repair... i'll just use the old model.
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  • Invader_ScootInvader_Scoot Join Date: 2003-10-13 Member: 21669Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Aww, I love that nozzle so much, I wanted to use it in fenris. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Invader Scoot+Jun 25 2005, 05:37 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Invader Scoot @ Jun 25 2005, 05:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Aww, I love that nozzle so much, I wanted to use it in fenris. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Just shape a transparent infestation texture over it if you have the polys to spare.
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