Granado Espada

GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
edited June 2005 in Off-Topic
<div class="IPBDescription">play a character or a whole party :o</div>I can't say I'm entirely sure what to make of this lil title though the ideas presented are fairly revolutionary in a weird backwards kinda way XD

Basically the original creator of Ragnarok Online left gravity and decided to do something totally different from the usual MMO.
What's so different I hear you cry?

Well... where to start really?
Firstly it's set in a renaissance style world with fairly realistically styled graphics and guns and swords and magic.

Secondly the game mechanics arrre... well... different.
The aspect I like is that they've introduced stances to the game to effect how you play; for example a gunfighter can switch between aimed stance for greater accuracy or freestyle stance for faster shooting and they can do it as much as they like and as often as they like :p

More to the point that I've been avoiding really is that you can have up to 12 characters and play from one to three of them simultaneously. That's right; you can be your own party o.O
The system they're using for this is called 'MCC' or 'Multi-Character Control'. Essentially you control the 'leader' manually while AI handles the extra 2 chars for you. Of course you're free to flick between the three as easily and quickly as you change stances during combat and whatnot (f1, f2, f3).
This essentially means you can flick to your mage and chuck a fireball, then flick to your fighter and do a big attack then flick to your cleric to throw some heals around.
Course you could just leave the AI to handle that in whatever manner you've set them to.

I think someone mentioned the party AI is similar to that of tales of symphonia which is no bad thing as it certainly did the job well enough :p

Aaaanyways. You can also hire NPCs to join your party and it's even possible to get creatures to join in too (somehow).
If you prefer to play a single character you can and weirdly enough you can pick and combine all your chars (no matter how you play them normally) to become your party; that means if you can't find a cleric you can just bring in your own one when you need her :o

For those interested in more, here's the engrish site: <a href='http://ge.hanbiton.com/en/' target='_blank'>http://ge.hanbiton.com/en/</a>

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  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    Must... Not... Succumb... To... Lure... Of... MMOs...
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    Just for the sake of information here's a nice article cut'n'pasted for your delight :3


    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Enter Granado Espada, a beautiful world designed with 17th century renaissance style in mind. In GE players are no longer limited to their characters and the skills that their character develops. Characters are shared and party play is dynamic, while players are still able to specialize in specific skills. RPG enthusiasts who enjoy being able to control multiple characters with varying abilities in a party can now have it in an online game, and no MMORPG has ever offered it before due to game balance and system load limitations.

    MCC (Multi Character Control)
    Where offline gaming allows players to take their time in choosing their actions, online gaming is fast and instantaneous. It doesn't allow one to pause the game to think. This is why Artificial Intelligence was needed to make Granado Espada's MCC system possible. There has yet to be an MMORPG game where gameplay AI is heavily used in a 3D environment and with full 3D pathing.

    Pathing is the distance travelled by the character from one point to another. It is calculated server side so that characters don't constantly get stuck by obstacles (as they do in other games) and for security reasons. The Granado Espada preview videos show how their own PathEngine (developed in France) automatically has characters move around obstacles. This means less manual clicking is needed to move from one location to the next. Characters can walk long distances without clicking or steering hundreds of times, and can chat freely while travelling.

    Players in GE form teams, also known as parties, of 1-3 characters at a time. The leader character is the one which players are in full control of, while the other team members will act like pets who follow and execute predetermined actions. The predetermined AI actions can be set to the fullest details, so players who are worrying about the limitations of AI have one less thing to fret about. Players can also switch between the characters of their team at any moment by one key press (ex: F1, F2, F3). It's not as challenging as it sounds to swap between characters but it does take large amounts of concentration and attention. Anyone who has played multiple characters and skill sets on previous MMORPGs and RPGs should have no problems adapting.

    Fighter and Wizard (these are realtime graphics and not FMV) It is still possible to use one character at a time. During solo play, characters may get more experience per monster defeated however it will be increasingly difficult to do so. Simple examples of why a party is needed include: a Wizard needs someone to defend him while casting, or a Fighter needs HP recovery. These are basic gameplay foundations of any RPG game, but should a team want to specialize on certain skills for certain situations, they can do so. An example would be a party of Wizards and Warlocks who combine their magic skills to greater effect.

    Players of Granado Espada don't develop themselves through simply fighting monsters, predicting their weaknesses and gaining extremely strong items or equipment. To maximize playing skill, one must know how to fight against the unexpected in PVP (Player Versus Player) and make use of the various AI settings.

    One of the settings is Stance, which can be switched by the player using the ALT+1,2,3,4 keys. Stance modifies how the character is being used (ex: offensive or defensive) and the character's skill with a certain stance increases the more they use it. The stance system is not limited to fighting characters, magicians can also use it to access differing types of magic. As well, the positions of characters and monsters on the field do affect gameplay (ex: should one of the characters get knocked back, the other two can start attacking the monster from behind and do more damage).

    Normally BOTs (AI controlled characters for quickly leveling up or farming items) and sharing characters are not allowed in MMORPGs for obvious reasons. In Granado Espada, it's how players share characters and manage Auto-Hunt (AI) while actively playing that makes the game enjoyable. Furthermore, this deters players from trying to use BOTs because the characters must be managed outside of one simple loop and adaptive strategy is necessary.

    The focus on survival is highly important. Characters are consumable units and have a certain amount of Life Counts that are lost each time they die. Should the count reach 0, the character cannot be played for a certain period of real time. When the period is over, the character will have a count of 1. The main purpose of this is to invigorate the trading of characters among players.

    Jobs
    Musketeer artwork and renderThe IMC Games Project Team didn't like how the concept of Job Changing was overdone in other MMORPGs and decided to choose a system that worked with the core of MCC, which is party playing. Instead of changing jobs, they decided upon a Mercenary System. NPCs (Non Player Characters) in cities and even monsters can become party members like in offline RPGs, while not being limited to simple functions (like 'pets' in other MMORPGs). The line between NPC and PC is diminished in GE.

    Where players have goals of expanding their items and equipment collections in previous MMORPGs, GE focuses on collecting characters. Since characters can be traded like items between players, GE hopes to overcome problems of stolen account details or RMT (Real Money Trading) which are problems currently plaguing the MMORPG market. There is no one solution to those problems, however GE is trying to stop them where they start, through creating gameplay which focuses on what is enjoyable for a player and by limiting what is gained into things which can only be useful through actively playing the game.

    The current character jobs unveiled for GE are Fighter, Scout, Wizard, Warlock, and Musketeer. Possible future jobs may include Alchemists, however the beta has been delayed. Although the jobs seem self-explanatory, it would be interesting to note that some of the classes are not what they traditionally seem to be. The Scouts are actually a class that can use curative and trapping items, and they tend to stay away from battle. The Wizards have the ability to use strong psychokinesis and weakening magic while the Warlocks manipulate the elemental magics. Combining the right jobs with the right stances when building teams will yield stronger results as it opens up abilities not normally available to the characters on their own. Combined with Stance, the possibilities of skill combinations seems endless.

    Barracks
    BarracksThis is essentially a beefed up character selection screen. Think of it as a house for the player's (up to 12) characters. Characters from the house all share a last name, which is the equivalent of a username and cannot be the same as anyone else on the server. The character's first names are what differentiates them within a player's Barracks. When characters are traded between players, they adopt the new last name.

    Within the Barracks, players select up to three characters to form a team or create characters in the dressing room before logging in. Unlike other selection screens where characters stand like lifeless dolls, GE has characters assume poses that fit the scenery and their personalities. Since time is of the essence, it's also not necessary to watch the full animation of the characters walking to and from the team formation.

    NPCs and enemies may also join a player's Barracks as Followers through recruitment. Certain conditions must be met for this to happen, it could be through quests or game money. It's most likely going to remain a 'rare', first-come-first-served basis as they tend to have jobs and abilities not available to player characters.

    Further Details
    Instead of a typical MMORPG back story which is clearly laid out with history and mythology, random excerpts of the GE story are introduced through epistolas, recollections of scenes in history through various points of view. Players take the role of European settlers arriving in this New World as it's being colonized and their rivals are other settlers and it's inhabitants.

    We have yet to see more of the world. As of now, many locations around and within Reuboldoeux (the main city which has a Prontera feel) have been used while demonstrating the game. The only other field that has been shown is Tetra Ruins (which has a dry and desolate, Moroc feel) and a generic dungeon where 15 teams (45 characters in total) took down a monster simultaneously.

    Much of the game is meant to be handled by the players within it. It seems in-game politics and trading of characters will be a large focus, instead of constantly leveling and visiting NPCs to finish quests. It's possible through the Vote System for players to become elected as GMs and have similar powers so that actual GMs do not have to intervene as much in lesser affairs, while players still get support. Players who have actively participated in Team Versus Team tournaments are offered this opportunity. How this unfolds in game has yet to be known.

    Currently MMORPG players can only screenshot what happens ingame to save and show their progress. Within Granado Espada, they can record scenes and movement with the Replay Function. The possible uses for this are endless, think of watching huge scale events such as TvT and TvB to note strategies, or recollecting most memorable moments.

    Finally, all that has been released of the closed beta shows no character customization outside of name. Whether physical appearance, equipment or statistics can change outside of the five sets of default character jobs has yet to be revealed. Considering the level of detail and ability to zoom in on characters more than in previous MMORPGs, it's a strong possibility.

    Two Clients
    High-End and Low-EndThere are two clients simultaneously in development. This is to accommodate players with high-end and low-end PCs. The clients are made separately from the ground up, unlike those of previous games. Instead of working from the high-end spec and stripping off details until it's low, each client has a specific look to it and different textures or details. Take a close look at the screenshots, and note the care put into making the low end client look good on it's own yet still quite similar to the high-end client. By having both clients render environments more naturally instead of using fog to hide popup, environments look more realistic.

    Beta Status
    Hanbit Soft signed an agreement with Hitachi to enter the Japanese market. Granado Espada has also been sold to The9 Limited to enter the Chinese market. Granado Espada is in closed beta and all interface screens are also subject to change.

    Staff
    Producer: Kim Hakkyu, known from Ragnarok Online
    Sound: Sound TeMP, known from Ragnarok Online
    Artwork: Limha Lekan, known from SOULLESS

    More Information
    Granado Espada Official Site


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  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    gah no beta yet <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • MonkfishMonkfish Sonic-boom-inducing buttcheeks of terrifying speed&#33; Join Date: 2003-06-03 Member: 16972Members
    Busty wenches. I am SO playing this game.
  • docchimpydocchimpy Join Date: 2003-07-19 Member: 18266Members
    Damn you, Gem. DAMN YOU!!!!!!!!!

    I will be downloading and logging on as soon as it is available.

    If only for the, as Sonic so aptly put it, busty wenches.
  • AllUrHiveRblong2usAllUrHiveRblong2us By Your Powers Combined... Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11244Members
    I liked this game when I first played it. When it was called Tales Of Phantasia.

    Cept that wasn't online. Sounds like the same gameplay style though.
  • SinSpawnSinSpawn Harbinger of Suffering Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8359Members
    Dang I know I played a really similiar game to this but it was just single player....ahh waht was it...

    it had the same concept of switching characters.

    Rune.....dragon...?? grr
  • NeonSpyderNeonSpyder &quot;Das est NTLDR?&quot; Join Date: 2003-07-03 Member: 17913Members
    Gem, promise us to post about this when the beta is open or it's available or whatever. because it looks like sex, and we all know how much i like sex.

    /me oggles screenshots
  • SinSpawnSinSpawn Harbinger of Suffering Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8359Members
    *Holds back NeonSpyder*

    ....hehe..sex sells... :O
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    well having a party of 3 you select from a number of chars at your disposal isn't exactly new sauce for RPGs, even real-time combat ones, sure. But for MMOs this is a whole new ballgame.

    Essentially it almost seems like making something new by using something old ^^;

    I'll keep you guys posted I guess. I'll keep track of this one from now on along with the other 2 or 3 I've not really mentioned yet :p
  • NeonSpyderNeonSpyder &quot;Das est NTLDR?&quot; Join Date: 2003-07-03 Member: 17913Members
    nooo sin... let me touch it, let me touch the goodness :o
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    Victorian setting a huge t*tties? Awesome. Still won't play it though.
  • DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18951Members
    sounds hella sweet and a bit revolutionary...

    it's been a while since there has been much change in the MMO world, it could use some...
  • Har_Har_the_PirateHar_Har_the_Pirate Join Date: 2003-08-10 Member: 19388Members, Constellation
    seems like a massivley multiplayer dungeon siege except with more control of party, which is a good thing
  • VenmochVenmoch Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1093Members
    Hmmm

    This may satisfy my urge to say "I say miscrient! Eat lead!"

    That and it seems to have guns. Guns > *
  • RaVeRaVe Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17538Members
    edited June 2005
    I heard of it about 3 months ago. Sounds good, since its coming form the original creator of RO (and he wanted to keep RO open beta free BTW, for those who haven't heard)

    ...expect me to play it for open beta. I heard the party-control system isn't very complicated, so it SHOULD be good news to those worrying about that issue.

    Ahh looks like they added a bit more information on the game. Before they didn't have much....
  • pardzhpardzh Join Date: 2002-10-25 Member: 1601Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Venmoch+Jun 16 2005, 07:07 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Venmoch @ Jun 16 2005, 07:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> This may satisfy my urge to say "I say miscrient! Eat lead!" <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    /rofl

    "Wot wot, old chap, slice that motha****a up good!"
  • Har_Har_the_PirateHar_Har_the_Pirate Join Date: 2003-08-10 Member: 19388Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-pardzh+Jun 16 2005, 07:46 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (pardzh @ Jun 16 2005, 07:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Venmoch+Jun 16 2005, 07:07 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Venmoch @ Jun 16 2005, 07:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> This may satisfy my urge to say "I say miscrient! Eat lead!" <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    /rofl

    "Wot wot, old chap, slice that motha****a up good!" <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ahhhhhahahhaah holy **** thats brilliant
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