<!--QuoteBegin-Splinter Steve?+Jun 20 2005, 04:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Splinter Steve? @ Jun 20 2005, 04:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-kalimxs+Jun 18 2005, 04:16 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (kalimxs @ Jun 18 2005, 04:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> if you're a skulk and attacking a shotgunner don't jump because it makes you an easier shot <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Skulks can usually bank on hitboxes to survive those confrontations, don't forget <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I'll have to remember both of those things. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Golden+Jun 20 2005, 05:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Golden @ Jun 20 2005, 05:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-LazerMane+Jun 20 2005, 11:51 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (LazerMane @ Jun 20 2005, 11:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Remember people: when trying to illustrate a point, use good grammar, speling, and make sure to punctuate your sentances if u punctuate them at all <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> The "u" should be "you" and here should be a period at the end of your sentence.
Focus hurts jetpackers tremendously, but the aliens having focus doesn't mean the end. A good group of marines will be welding each other every single time one of them gets hit. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> <span style='color:red'>YOU FAIL</span> TO RECOGNISE AN OBVIOUS AN ATTEMPT AT HUMOR. GOOD DAY SIR.
<!--QuoteBegin-Cereal KillR+Jun 21 2005, 02:04 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cereal KillR @ Jun 21 2005, 02:04 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It's funny how each time someone tries to express a point and fails miserably, they always relabel it as sarcasm or irony. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> It was sarcasm... You would have to be boarderline retarded to read it as anything else... He makes a post telling people to use good grammar and spelling while his post contains more grammar and spelling errors then anyone else's in this thread.
Look at more of lazermine's posts, he knows how to spell.
i have a solution that will probably be shot down by nearly everyone here.
make shotguns only do 3/4 of their damage to structures. taht way they can still be a harsh raping pwn cannon to aliens AND hurt hives (but not as much on teh hives)
make bile bombs do a little more damage while decreasing their damage radius. they only hit buildings anyway so why not let aliens have a shotgun. (theres no way an onos can be compared to a shotty because they are lategame while shotguns are available at the very beginning) </typofix>
Well, I'm not the kind of people that actually criticizes grammar and spelling, I don't memorize people who spell well or badly, I don't compare posts to see whether or not they know how to spell. But from what I see, a lot of grammar nazis actually do make many mistakes. Kind of hard to tell the difference heh? I'm not going to be checking his other posts to check his spelling, and I just may be borderline retarded, but you don't know how many times what I described happens on what we call the internet. Maybe not for lazermane, but there are many, many people who don't know how to spell and pretend that they do, and not looking at someone's past to determine whether it's irony or stupidity doesn't imply anything about my mental abilities apart from the fact I don't examine everyone's posts to track down good spellers and bad spellers.
<!--QuoteBegin-Cereal KillR+Jun 22 2005, 05:47 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cereal KillR @ Jun 22 2005, 05:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Well, I'm not the kind of people that actually criticizes grammar and spelling, I don't memorize people who spell well or badly, I don't compare posts to see whether or not they know how to spell. But from what I see, a lot of grammar nazis actually do make many mistakes. Kind of hard to tell the difference heh? I'm not going to be checking his other posts to check his spelling, and I just may be borderline retarded, but you don't know how many times what I described happens on what we call the internet. Maybe not for lazermane, but there are many, many people who don't know how to spell and pretend that they do, and not looking at someone's past to determine whether it's irony or stupidity doesn't imply anything about my mental abilities apart from the fact I don't examine everyone's posts to track down good spellers and bad spellers. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> It was blatently sarcasm, just accept he pwnt you <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
j/k
Agree leave shotties as is, reducing bile bomb spread = bad considering you have to spend a great deal of bile time looking at the stars to reach your targets.
<!--QuoteBegin-Swift+Jun 22 2005, 09:40 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swift @ Jun 22 2005, 09:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> if SG is nerfed any more besides randomizing it's buckshot, I will quit NS. GG. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> you realise randomising the pellets is more of a nerf than halving damage and/or range.
<!--QuoteBegin-TOmekki+Jun 23 2005, 02:17 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TOmekki @ Jun 23 2005, 02:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Swift+Jun 22 2005, 09:40 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swift @ Jun 22 2005, 09:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> if SG is nerfed any more besides randomizing it's buckshot, I will quit NS. GG. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> you realise randomising the pellets is more of a nerf than halving damage and/or range. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> hardly
tighten the pattern a bit, randomize the shot, i bet you'd hardly be able to notice a difference. slightly more dangerous at mid-(shotgun)-range due to a tighter pattern, less useful for sniping due to the random shot spread, and when an onos is all the way down a hall with your buddy you don't have to sit on your thumbs because he's out of range.. he'll just be too far away for the gun to do much good, not too far away for it to register any damage at all
Exactly. The current SG goes about.. 45 feet (give or take; I calculated it once inn units.) I'm sure pellets don't magically dissappear out of nowhere after 45 feet IRL.. or... not?
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shotty is FINE. If you have a team, which i am sure you have, then why is NOONE patrolling the hive or placing OCs?
If rines can: * sneak in a PG * PG in with the PG throttle * ammo spam + get in position * shoot hive down while you flee in like paniced n00bs * shoot all the fades & lerks then you deserve to lose that hive.
patrol, parasite, search and destroy. its that easy
<!--QuoteBegin-Golden+Jun 20 2005, 12:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Golden @ Jun 20 2005, 12:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Focus hurts jetpackers tremendously, but the aliens having focus doesn't mean the end. A good group of marines will be welding each other every single time one of them gets hit. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Then those marines die... because fade/skulk/lerk beating on them > welding.
If you're not welding you're not doing damage so unless you get many good hits on the fade, or kill the lerk/skulk, you won't have time to weld.
As for the shotgun... Its the only anti-structure weapon marines have early game (pre-upgraded armory) if you don't include static buildings. Yes i would like to see the GL's anti-structure use beefed a bit (its really only used on packed buildings like chambers and firing into vents now). A great idea would be to increase structure resistance to light damage weapons (i believe this includes the LMG, pistol, and shotgun) as more hives are built. That way... marines have a early anti-structure weapon, and GL use would be promoted late game. The GL would need to be buffed some... perhaps allowing a GL user to load however many shells he wants (instead of all off them) by clicking to cancel the loading process.
shotty rushes on a hive are usually just because of bad scouting by aliens, sieges are a lot more effective and safe than shotty rushing a hive when the aliens know you are there though
Definately not, shotgun rush is much cheaper and quicker and pretty much always works, sieges take a while to build and upgrade, the aliens will be constantly rushing and probably kill all the marines eventually as they run out of ammo and get injured, medpack cost, low res, and then the phase gate if there is one will go down with the sieges and tf.
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Skulks can usually bank on hitboxes to survive those confrontations, don't forget <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'll have to remember both of those things. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
thanks!
The "u" should be "you" and here should be a period at the end of your sentence.
Focus hurts jetpackers tremendously, but the aliens having focus doesn't mean the end. A good group of marines will be welding each other every single time one of them gets hit. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
<span style='color:red'>YOU FAIL</span> TO RECOGNISE AN OBVIOUS AN ATTEMPT AT HUMOR. GOOD DAY SIR.
It was sarcasm... You would have to be boarderline retarded to read it as anything else... He makes a post telling people to use good grammar and spelling while his post contains more grammar and spelling errors then anyone else's in this thread.
Look at more of lazermine's posts, he knows how to spell.
make shotguns only do 3/4 of their damage to structures. taht way they can still be a harsh raping pwn cannon to aliens AND hurt hives (but not as much on teh hives)
make bile bombs do a little more damage while decreasing their damage radius. they only hit buildings anyway so why not let aliens have a shotgun. (theres no way an onos can be compared to a shotty because they are lategame while shotguns are available at the very beginning) </typofix>
It was blatently sarcasm, just accept he pwnt you <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
j/k
Agree leave shotties as is, reducing bile bomb spread = bad considering you have to spend a great deal of bile time looking at the stars to reach your targets.
you realise randomising the pellets is more of a nerf than halving damage and/or range.
you realise randomising the pellets is more of a nerf than halving damage and/or range. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
hardly
If you have a team, which i am sure you have, then why is NOONE patrolling the hive or placing OCs?
If rines can:
* sneak in a PG
* PG in with the PG throttle
* ammo spam + get in position
* shoot hive down while you flee in like paniced n00bs
* shoot all the fades & lerks
then you deserve to lose that hive.
patrol, parasite, search and destroy. its that easy
Then those marines die... because fade/skulk/lerk beating on them > welding.
If you're not welding you're not doing damage so unless you get many good hits on the fade, or kill the lerk/skulk, you won't have time to weld.
As for the shotgun... Its the only anti-structure weapon marines have early game (pre-upgraded armory) if you don't include static buildings. Yes i would like to see the GL's anti-structure use beefed a bit (its really only used on packed buildings like chambers and firing into vents now). A great idea would be to increase structure resistance to light damage weapons (i believe this includes the LMG, pistol, and shotgun) as more hives are built. That way... marines have a early anti-structure weapon, and GL use would be promoted late game. The GL would need to be buffed some... perhaps allowing a GL user to load however many shells he wants (instead of all off them) by clicking to cancel the loading process.