Wtb Lcd Monitor!
Scythe
Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 46NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation, Reinforced - Silver
<div class="IPBDescription">17 inch, sub-10ms response time.</div> I'm in the market for an LCD monitor. My main stipulations are price, which limits size to no bigger than about 17 inch, and that it's good for gaming, so its response rate is about 10ms or lower. Preferably 8. I'm not interested in waiting six months for the 4ms craze to take off.
I've got my eye on <a href='http://www.simline.com.au/product.asp?prodid=5948' target='_blank'>this one.</a> Any comments? Recommendations?
--Scythe--
Edit: My linkdump: <a href='http://www.i-tech.com.au/products/630_PHILIPS_170B6CB_17INCH__1280X1024__VGA.asp' target='_blank'>Phillips</a> <a href='http://www.cws.net.au/cmv/ct720d.htm' target='_blank'>Title of webpage here</a>
I've got my eye on <a href='http://www.simline.com.au/product.asp?prodid=5948' target='_blank'>this one.</a> Any comments? Recommendations?
--Scythe--
Edit: My linkdump: <a href='http://www.i-tech.com.au/products/630_PHILIPS_170B6CB_17INCH__1280X1024__VGA.asp' target='_blank'>Phillips</a> <a href='http://www.cws.net.au/cmv/ct720d.htm' target='_blank'>Title of webpage here</a>
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<a href='http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3696&item=5211904082&rd=1' target='_blank'>why stop at 19"?</a>
but shipping would be absurd from UK to AUS anyway
then again, I think there are alot of these big old CRTs floating around if you look in the right places.
/threadjack
Actually 60 pounds is $141 aussie dollars. I'm looking at spending up to $350.
Now I'm asking politly, Cyndane, please get out of my thread if you have nothing constructive to add.
--Scythe--
*Edit* Because I'm a jerk, "politely."
I believe it's timing is 5 ms.
::EDIT::
Sonic wins. See below for details.
I'd like to start by saying that unless you know what you are talking about, I wouldn't make such broad assumptions.
Flat screen CRTs solve quite a bit of space issue, however they are quite a bit larger then an LCD.
LCD's run significantly hotter, then any CRT.
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More electricity flowing through said LCD display will create more heat. There are more cells in a LCD display, you get more heat, which is why if you touch the back of a monitor that is in LCD format you end up with hotter surface then a CRT. (However, it should be noted that our sense of touch (usually) isn't sensitive enough to notice the difference.)
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More electricity flowing through said LCD display will create more heat. There are more cells in a LCD display, you get more heat, which is why if you touch the back of a monitor that is in LCD format you end up with hotter surface then a CRT. (However, it should be noted that our sense of touch (usually) isn't sensitive enough to notice the difference.) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
What on earth are you talking about? It is a completely different technology! CRTs are firing electrons at your face, and shaking up atoms on the screen enough to glow. That's a lot less energy efficient than rotating molecules with small electronic stimuli.
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<a href='http://www.viewsonic.com/monitoruniversity/lcd.htm' target='_blank'>http://www.viewsonic.com/monitoruniversity/lcd.htm</a>
Any LCD screen currently out on the market with a 12 ms response time or lower uses 6 bit TN panels. The color quality is noticeable for movies and people with sharp vision. Practically every 16 ms screen uses a higher color quality panel that's 8 bit. Remember, 16.2 million color spec is the 6 bit panel, 16.7 million color spec is the 8 bit. The "true" colors produced by the 6 bit is actually around 256,000. However, they get those 16 million other colors by dithering, which produces a lower quality image.
So if you're using this screen primarily for gaming, go for the 6 bit. If you also plan on watching movies and just general usage, I'd get the slower, but better quality 8 bit panel.
If you can afford it, that's a sweet one, but otherwise just stick your specs in here:
<a href='http://www.newegg.com/ProductSort/SubCategory.asp?Subcategory=20' target='_blank'>http://www.newegg.com/ProductSort/SubCateg...?Subcategory=20</a>
And it will find something in your pricerange (in US Dollars), even if you don't order from Newegg, you can look for the same monitor elsewhere.
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TFT is quit a bit more expensive, although I prefer the TFT because it does not strain my eyes as much as a CRT monitor does.