VAC1 can be disabled with a cetain amount of code and a single pointer address. Its ridicuouls, but cheats are always 500 times easier to develop if there is an SDK to develop mods, because all cheats are really just client-side modifications. Simply hook your functions in GetProcAddress and use ForceLib to inject.
well the best anti cheat out there is a REAL PERSON aka Admins on shifts or something to that.
as you may have sen in my thread on general server disscussion thread. i am hosting a 1 week/month, hasnt happend yet, but ill be there on my pc watching everything as much as i realy can.
ill even have a recording going on and it will stop every hour,save, and a new one starts so no "taking long hours tring to find clues" in one file.
thats the best i can think of.
if you use a program to keep an eye out for hacks and cheats, it has no common sense what so ever.
i totally agree, though vac isn't too much of a hassel because its pretty much built in (meaning that the person on the client side doesn't have to do anything)
i think i read somewhere that vac2 is supposed to have mod support, i could be talking out my **** though
I can't stand VAC, it takes much longer to connect while that crap needs to download itself and scan everytime you join a server, not to mention that it's not more effective than CD... <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-XCan+Jul 7 2005, 09:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (XCan @ Jul 7 2005, 09:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I can't stand VAC, it takes much longer to connect while that crap needs to download itself and scan everytime you join a server, not to mention that it's not more effective than CD... <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> yeah, of course CD is better, for giving me an fps drop down to 30-40 frames sometimes >_>
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<!--QuoteBegin-XCan+Jul 7 2005, 02:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (XCan @ Jul 7 2005, 02:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I can't stand VAC, it takes much longer to connect while that crap needs to download itself and scan everytime you join a server, not to mention that it's not more effective than CD... <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> By much longer you mean the 10 seconds it takes to download and Activate, right? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
if you hate vac then you must also hate any server with any type of downloads or custom maps, heck on tfc it takes maybe 3 seconds max to load vac for me
its like having secruity on your computer, yeah it won't catch everything BUT it helps and can catch stuff a person would not easily see.
<!--QuoteBegin-CrazySteve+Jul 7 2005, 10:35 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CrazySteve @ Jul 7 2005, 10:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> if you hate vac then you must also hate any server with any type of downloads or custom maps, heck on tfc it takes maybe 3 seconds max to load vac for me
its like having secruity on your computer, yeah it won't catch everything BUT it helps and can catch stuff a person would not easily see. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yes I do hate servers running custom maps and never play on them, and to some previous poster saying it takes 10 secs more than usual. Well maybe 10 secs isn't much if you just take it out of the contest, but with a normal loading time of under 10 secs I see no reason why I would have to wait more than double the normal loading time for an anti-cheat that doesn't do much good.
<!--QuoteBegin-XCan+Jul 8 2005, 06:09 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (XCan @ Jul 8 2005, 06:09 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I can't stand VAC, it takes much longer to connect while that crap needs to download itself and scan everytime you join a server, not to mention that it's not more effective than CD... <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Which games are you playing, that it takes so long for VAC to connect and verify?
<!--QuoteBegin-midspace+Jul 11 2005, 01:59 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (midspace @ Jul 11 2005, 01:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-XCan+Jul 8 2005, 06:09 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (XCan @ Jul 8 2005, 06:09 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I can't stand VAC, it takes much longer to connect while that crap needs to download itself and scan everytime you join a server, not to mention that it's not more effective than CD... <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Which games are you playing, that it takes so long for VAC to connect and verify? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Seems to take 3x longer when playing dod for some reason.
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as you may have sen in my thread on general server disscussion thread. i am hosting a 1 week/month, hasnt happend yet, but ill be there on my pc watching everything as much as i realy can.
ill even have a recording going on and it will stop every hour,save, and a new one starts so no "taking long hours tring to find clues" in one file.
thats the best i can think of.
if you use a program to keep an eye out for hacks and cheats, it has no common sense what so ever.
i think i read somewhere that vac2 is supposed to have mod support, i could be talking out my **** though
yeah, of course CD is better, for giving me an fps drop down to 30-40 frames sometimes >_>
Hopefully vac will be included :|
By much longer you mean the 10 seconds it takes to download and Activate, right? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
its like having secruity on your computer, yeah it won't catch everything BUT it helps and can catch stuff a person would not easily see.
its like having secruity on your computer, yeah it won't catch everything BUT it helps and can catch stuff a person would not easily see. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes I do hate servers running custom maps and never play on them, and to some previous poster saying it takes 10 secs more than usual. Well maybe 10 secs isn't much if you just take it out of the contest, but with a normal loading time of under 10 secs I see no reason why I would have to wait more than double the normal loading time for an anti-cheat that doesn't do much good.
it is better then the alternatives right now like CD
Which games are you playing, that it takes so long for VAC to connect and verify?
Which games are you playing, that it takes so long for VAC to connect and verify? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Seems to take 3x longer when playing dod for some reason.