Online-evolution Is Hosting 1.04

OnESabreWulf · July 2005

Edge
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>An amazing thing I've noticed on the 1.04 server. We have yet to encounter players with bad attitudes. Everyone who has played is there for the nostalgia as I am.
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This is the main reason on why I wanted to make the move to host Classic NS 1.04.
Combat Attracts other FPS gamers and since this is a HL mod its natural for counter Strike Players to play NS 3.0 combat mode.
The negative game attitude that is associated with players of this game has plagued the NS community over the past 2 years ever since 3.0.
NS in general is hard to play when a combat player AKA counter Strike player has no idea about RTS strategy and good teamplay.

NS is RTS strategy & FPS tactics and I believe that players of combat will only dampen the very true value of natural selection unique game gender.

Also I have been flame here by some NS community members just by posting some news that On|E is hosting 1.04
This is why I don’t post here actively because of the negative attitude most of you have.
I thought that just maybe a few good old school NS players might like the idea of a 1.04 server. Even if its buggy as hell its still enjoyable to play.

For the ones that made fair replies and supported my post I thank you.<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' />
For the ones that flame me, enjoy just shows the immaturity you have in a harmless post like this one.
You can quote my comments and turn them into more negative comments if you like. I can see this is how some of you are and nothing can be change for grumpy pepole.
AKA beta haters. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

NS 1.04 game server is here to stay at On|E and its now apart of our server list and you are welcome to play if you like.
If not we still have our 3.0.4 server.

I just wanted to make a post about what we are doing her at On|E thats all guys. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' />

CommunistWithAGun · July 2005

I played it for an hour or so for nostaligia then quit again

Uncapped pistol ROF, JP HMG rushes, silent marine bhop, all those things, while fun to do, are extremely lame.

Something I remembered though is, skulk animations other than moving around, LMG movement idle animations, and stuff like that is sorely missed.

OnESabreWulf · July 2005

CommunistWithAGun I dont know if you ever play 1.x version of NS in the past but
Its only for players that have in the past played NS 1.04 thats all.
That version of Ns is buggy and also very dependent heavy on plug-ins like the /stuck command from AMX mod.

Hell even 2.0 was buggy and that changed the game play with new add-ons and other game balances.

We just might also host 2.0 and see how that goes. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' />

Also there is no need for lame scripts like bhpos and pistol because you can freely bhop and also shot faster with the pistol in 1.04

OnESabreWulf · July 2005

You know what I miss, the perfection of the old Grande launcher from 1.04 it was perfect slim smooth and had better range then the god awful barrel Grande launcher.
And it had a clip reload that was faster then the current version.
The new GL is slow in reloading and has poor shooting range.

obuh · July 2005

<u>lol</u>.

Edge · July 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dodgeh @ Jul 3 2005, 03:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>cant find any 1.04 servers and even if i cud i cant join as 1.04 crashes as soon as i try and load it up. Face it its dead</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
LOL, yes your cpu is dead. Shoot it.

Yes NGE, much fun. That custom map called missilecomand_final3 was loaded yesterday, OMG, that ready room music as annoying as it was brings back the mems.

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

plAstiC · July 2005

you people can try the sek 2000 server (its german server with a 1.04/3.04 hybrid plugin)

i dont really like it but its some kind of balanced

80.243.193.114:27015

TOmekki · July 2005

skulk bunnyhopping is harder in 1.x than now.

Ravatar · July 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TOmekki @ Jul 4 2005, 03:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> skulk bunnyhopping is harder in 1.x than now.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
hard as hell with gorge too

Breakthrough · July 2005

...I just played with you, <b>Ravatar</b>. Had some cool moments, but for the most part, I didn't know what the heck I was doing (I started in 2.0). Alas, it's fun, but the sounds are different, and will take me some getting used to. The gameplay is really choppy and slower, but I kind of like it that way <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' />

CatCop · July 2005

Soooo fun <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' />

NGE · July 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Jul 4 2005, 08:27 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I played it for an hour or so for nostaligia then quit again

Uncapped pistol ROF, JP HMG rushes, silent marine bhop, all those things, while fun to do, are extremely lame.

Something I remembered though is, skulk animations other than moving around, LMG movement idle animations, and stuff like that is sorely missed.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
skulk animations? in 1.04? Like what?

comrade · July 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NGE @ Jul 3 2005, 02:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Fine for fun, but last time I tried playing the older version there was a ton of whining from seldom more than 8 players.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
it picks it's teeth with one of its front claws

Invader_Scoot · July 2005

Wow, Europe really pulled a llama on the server. The server doesn't send the clients these files:

wall_tech.wad
eu_3.wad
lights.wad

edit: AND it's missing the minimap.

Vermillion · July 2005

<a href='http://www.teamkindred.com/cgi-bin/schlabo/dl.pl?ns_europa' target='_blank'>http://www.teamkindred.com/cgi-bin/schlabo/dl.pl?ns_europa</a>

for those of u that plan on playing on the server. were still working on the server. kinda sucks though
had 8 people and bam europa hits.

stallioN · July 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (OnESabreWulf @ Jul 4 2005, 08:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Also there is no need for lame scripts like bhpos and pistol because you can freely bhop and also shot faster with the pistol in 1.04  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Marine bunnyhop and the lack of a ROF cap on the pistol were just 2 of the many faults of version 1.04. Did you not read CommunistWithAGun's post at all?

todd1Ok · July 2005

1.04 didnt have a minimap. *grimace*

yet another reason why it was bad.

but still. silent marine bunnyhop. wheee. eat knife, skulk.

ohh yea. welding an onos. WIN.

Invader_Scoot · July 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (todd1Ok @ Jul 5 2005, 12:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> 1.04 didnt have a minimap. *grimace*  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Yes it did, but it was only for marines and it wasn't all lish like the current one.

solcott · July 2005

looks like we have a bad res file for europa, i'll fix that right now, and about the bhopping that wont be a problem because i have installed the anti buzzhook/antiscript plugin that we use on our ns3.0 server, so if someone tries to bhop it bans them for 1 miniute with a warning that bhopping isnt allowed.

Invader_Scoot · July 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (solcott @ Jul 5 2005, 09:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> looks like we have a bad res file for europa, i'll fix that right now, and about the bhopping that wont be a problem because i have installed the anti buzzhook/antiscript plugin that we use on our ns3.0 server, so if someone tries to bhop it bans them for 1 miniute with a warning that bhopping isnt allowed. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Ok not playing on the server anymore.

Brackhar · July 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (solcott @ Jul 5 2005, 02:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> looks like we have a bad res file for europa, i'll fix that right now, and about the bhopping that wont be a problem because i have installed the anti buzzhook/antiscript plugin that we use on our ns3.0 server, so if someone tries to bhop it bans them for 1 miniute with a warning that bhopping isnt allowed.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
...?

What? I was so psyched about playing on your server when I get home and then you pull a stunt like this? Until this plugin is removed I won't touch your server, and I'll advise others to do the same.

-Brackhar

obuh · July 2005

It doesn't ban for bhop, I could bhop there using both mousewheel and +3jump. Maybe it checks for _special or something though.

Brackhar · July 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (obuh @ Jul 5 2005, 04:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> It doesn't ban for bhop, I could bhop there using both mousewheel and +3jump. Maybe it checks for _special or something though.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Well if that's the case then that's more reasonable, but that's not how it was presented. I guess I'll find out for myself later tonight.

-Brackhar

solcott · July 2005

yeah it doesnt ban bhoppers who do it by hand it just bans _special or using any aliases

Invader_Scoot · July 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (solcott @ Jul 5 2005, 11:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <b>using any aliases</b>  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
... Come on man, take off the plugin.

Brackhar · July 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (solcott @ Jul 5 2005, 04:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> using any aliases  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Sigh. Guess I won't be playing there.

Best of luck hosting the server. If there's enough demand I could possibly bring up a server that allows non-_special scripting.

-Brackhar

solcott · July 2005

ok i changed some things about the plugin because it looks like people think you need aliases for things. it doesnt ban all aliases it just looks for scripts trying to do certain things(just bhop scripts, pistol scripts, and wigglewalk scripts)

solcott · July 2005

edited the plugin again, it doesnt ban any scripts instead it broadcasts to everyone whos playing that you are using scripts and laughs at you when you use them(the exact same thing it did before right before it would ban you, i just took the ban part out.)

Brackhar · July 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (solcott @ Jul 5 2005, 06:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> broadcasts to everyone whos playing that you are using scripts and laughs at you when you use them  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
...

Interesting design choice.

-Brackhar

TOmekki · July 2005

a little bit of nostalgy there as well?

** Bunnyhop script detected on user **

Online-evolution Is Hosting 1.04

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