[wip] Owen Smg Concept

TheUdderOneTheUdderOne Join Date: 2004-05-04 Member: 28471Members
One of the concepts posted in the concepts and request forum.

Just getting back into modelling, taking a break from WoW.

<img src='http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/TheUdderOne/owensmg2.png' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
<img src='http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/TheUdderOne/owensmg.png' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

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  • StarStarGrizzlyStarStarGrizzly Join Date: 2004-02-06 Member: 26139Members
    good, forums are dieing we need more none noob people. pC?
  • aeroripperaeroripper Join Date: 2005-02-25 Member: 42471NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    yay another unskinned gun... good to see the NS customization community is thriving
  • TheUdderOneTheUdderOne Join Date: 2004-05-04 Member: 28471Members
    lol. it comes in stages dude.

    I model, ask people for crits, refine, map, skin.

    Thats how it goes.

    PC is around 2k, but still hasn't been optimized, so that'll drop around 200-300 polys from it.

    Trying to get back into the NS community after a rather lengthy absence. wnn is still around, he does everything these days, people should encourage him more, he rules.
  • Chubi_ChanChubi_Chan Join Date: 2004-08-26 Member: 30924Members
    kinda thick barrel for a SMG.Unless your going with a bull barrel,bull barrel FTW.

    needs some front sights.

    make the grip (the back one,closest to the magazine) a tad more rounded toward the front of it,looks kinda like a block for now...

    and I got an idea.The top looks kinda seperate from the bottom,why not give the player a suprise,and have the whole top come off for reloading and have the marine put a new one on <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • DrfuzzyDrfuzzy FEW... MORE.... INCHES... Join Date: 2003-09-21 Member: 21094Members
    Make the grip a block, then go back and add a grip like <img src='http://www.haxorsoft.net/images/albums/pap/pistolduexporduct.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

    After you do that, remove the barrel and add a gas cylinder above a new, smaller barrel. That will keep the barrel from looking too large but also keep it from looking empty. Dont forget a working bolt, too <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • TheUdderOneTheUdderOne Join Date: 2004-05-04 Member: 28471Members
    Yeah gunna put a UMP 45 style bolt on it, and adding a hogue grip was actually what i was thinking of doing <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    K i'll update 2moz hopefully
  • Chubi_ChanChubi_Chan Join Date: 2004-08-26 Member: 30924Members
    k,if your gonna add finger grooves,then you don't need to smooth the handgrip.But the whole upper receiver removal reloading part is still a good idea.
  • StarStarGrizzlyStarStarGrizzly Join Date: 2004-02-06 Member: 26139Members
    why wouldnt he smooth it?
  • Chubi_ChanChubi_Chan Join Date: 2004-08-26 Member: 30924Members
    because then there would be wasted polies under the handgrooves...I only ment that he should make it a tad more rounder so it looks holdable...not a box that'll give ya papercut <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Fatal_ErrorFatal_Error Join Date: 2005-01-15 Member: 35840Members
    Damn, that must be a **** to reload, you'd either need to take the gun out of ready position or have to be extremely vunerable taking the magazine out from under your elbow. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • DrfuzzyDrfuzzy FEW... MORE.... INCHES... Join Date: 2003-09-21 Member: 21094Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Fatal Error+Jul 3 2005, 10:22 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Fatal Error @ Jul 3 2005, 10:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Damn, that must be a **** to reload, you'd either need to take the gun out of ready position or have to be extremely vunerable taking the magazine out from under your elbow. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Actually it might be easier. Given its a bullpup, your going to have to reach just above your armpit anyways, its might be better for the clip to be angled torwards where your going to grab it, that way you can slap it back in place a lot faster. Forward style mags are even more dangerous, considering you usually remove your right hand (one by the trigger) to pull the clip out, while the other holds the gun stable.
  • Chubi_ChanChubi_Chan Join Date: 2004-08-26 Member: 30924Members
    actually,I have a special way of reloading my maudi that actually works.I tap the magazine release so the magazine is loose,but not fallen,I flick it out onto my left foot (which is in front of me when I stand sideways...how I shoot) and I flick my right foot up and catch the magazine with my left hand and place it in.Sounds like something outta an action movie,but I works just fine for me <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    if I had some weak velco,it'd try to do it on the move...

    reguardless of how you reload your gun,a gun with a magazine that sits at an angle to the body is ALWAYS easier to reload.

    I've also been trying to do something with my ruger mk.1:

    spin it on my right hand's middle finger,catch it and hit the magazine release at the same time and have the magazine fly out to the left,spin it vertically on my right hand's middle finger and flick a waiting magazine that is bottom side down on my foot up into...I've gotten into the foot flicking part,I've gotten it once...but that's once...
  • Lt_GravityLt_Gravity Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15909Members
    regarding to how firearms are constructed to actually WORK, this one WONT.
    there is no space for the loading mechanism.
  • KardoffelKardoffel Join Date: 2004-04-03 Member: 27711Members, Constellation
    Grav its a kind of magic
  • HawkpulseHawkpulse Join Date: 2005-03-26 Member: 46480Members
    looks nice, id use it, well if its done right.
  • sheena_yanaisheena_yanai Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11426Members
    edited July 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-Lt Gravity+Jul 4 2005, 08:16 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lt Gravity @ Jul 4 2005, 08:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> regarding to how firearms are constructed to actually WORK, this one WONT.
    there is no space for the loading mechanism. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    oh..it actually does, there is even a real life weapon with this configuration. just because something is unconventional, it does not mean its not going to work.
    <img src='http://yanai.blackmage.org/concepts/concept%20studys/_TKB-022PM(600).jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
    this is the TKB-022 7,62mm Assault rifle from 1947 designed by Korobov, a very light and advanced firearm with an almost unbreakable polymer frame, but also very expensive to produce (heh....1947... this thing was really SciFi to this time, even for today its a very uncommon design). it was a very close competitor to Kalashnikov´s AK-47 rifle to get the main assault rifle of the ussr. the TKB was dropped, because it was way to expensive to produce in large capacitys, and the complex but reliable downward ejecting reloading mechanism was not realy field strip friendly.
    1962 introduced Korobov the TKB-23, a more advanced version chambered 7.62mm again with several metal parts replaced with leightweight composite materials.
    <img src='http://yanai.blackmage.org/concepts/tkb23.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
    there was no market for this thing..the only one who would use this kind of weapon was the military, and they already got their AK series, and something like a "weapon export market" for high tech weaponry wasnt existant or alowed in the ussr at this time.
    so this one got stomped too.
  • nogoodnicknamenogoodnickname Join Date: 2005-03-23 Member: 46172Members
    dude that gun is cool
  • Chubi_ChanChubi_Chan Join Date: 2004-08-26 Member: 30924Members
    yeah...there actually is plenty of space for a loading mechanism...ever heard of an SMG?some SMGs sometimes tend to use pistol receivers stripped of the slide.Thus,little to no space is needed for a loading mechanism...

    heck,I've seen tiny 2 shot .22lr pistols that are smaller then my mouse,and work off a magazine <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • mirrodinmirrodin Join Date: 2004-06-29 Member: 29621Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Lt Gravity+Jul 4 2005, 06:16 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lt Gravity @ Jul 4 2005, 06:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> regarding to how firearms are constructed to actually WORK, this one WONT.
    there is no space for the loading mechanism. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Nanites.

    sheena: Thats a damn cool gun.
  • Lt_GravityLt_Gravity Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15909Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-mirrodin+Jul 4 2005, 09:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (mirrodin @ Jul 4 2005, 09:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Lt Gravity+Jul 4 2005, 06:16 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lt Gravity @ Jul 4 2005, 06:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> regarding to how firearms are constructed to actually WORK, this one WONT.
    there is no space for the loading mechanism. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Nanites.

    sheena: Thats a damn cool gun. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    oh yeah, whenever you cant get an explanation how something works, take the nanite arguement <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    @ sheena: no, its not "oh..it actually does, there is even a real life weapon with this configuration. just because something is unconventional, it does not mean its not going to work."

    its more like "if you dont know all fire weapons on this planet you shouldnt answer like this."

    conventional guns arent build like that, thats why this one looks damn wrong to me, no matter which technical explanation might be behind it.

    <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:red'>DONT MESS WITH SHEENA!</span></span>

    <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Chubi_ChanChubi_Chan Join Date: 2004-08-26 Member: 30924Members
    yes,conventional guns aren't built EXACTLY like that...but then again,alot of the NS stuff isn't conventional either <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> when was the last time you saw a gun like the HMG from NS?

    just cause something looks wrong,doesn't always mean it is...

    looks are deceiveing...
  • Once_OnlyOnce_Only Join Date: 2004-05-15 Member: 28700Members
    The HMG is just a big gun, it doesnt seem unconventional, it seems appropriate.
  • Wolf_KahlerWolf_Kahler Join Date: 2002-11-29 Member: 10252Members
    The default NS shotgun has a curve in its pump action, whereas pretty much all modern pump-action shotguns are straight.

    Doesn't mean it wouldn't work.

    Remember, now: The loading mechanism only needs to be about as tall and wide as the bullets it'll be loading. Length isn't as much of an issue because it's moving around anyway.

    Or it doesn't even need a mechanism at all; the spring in the mag will pop it up on its own, when the chamber's unobstructed. Always eject the round in the chamber after pulling the mag, kiddies. Russian Roulette fails miserably with an auto.

    The firing mechanism isn't that much of an issue either; Glocks can have it completely contained in a fairly small space.

    Did Shirow ever use that thing as inspiration for some of his Seburo designs? I always liked those tiny protruding barrels, like the baby M4 in A Man Apart that fired a billion rounds from a thirty-round mag... ¶§¦¬þ Nanites made it possible! It just needed stripes ftw!
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