Marik_SteeleTo rule in hell...Join Date: 2002-11-20Member: 9466Members
edited July 2005
CWAG is correct, there is a rate of fire limit on the pistol. What seemed like full auto was just a series of rapid clicks.
Some people may tell you there are "scripts" that can speed it up. It's true that there are scripts that will (for example) fire once when you press the mouse button down and once when you lift it back up. But even these are limited in speed by the rate of fire cap. People with those scripts end up having to practice clicking down and up at the right speed and rhythm, or they're likely to fire *slower* than players like me, who just repeatedly slam the mousebutton with default controls. They're still limited in firing rate just like everyone else.
[edit]Now that I think about it, this may be more accurately described as a different way to bind things instead of being a real script....but since I haven't used it and don't know exactly how it's set up, I wouldn't know which it's supposed to be called.
<!--QuoteBegin-J D W+Jul 11 2005, 05:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (J D W @ Jul 11 2005, 05:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> okay never mind then it was just super fast :/ <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> The cap is rather low, so it is super fast. Try binding +attack to your mwheel and try.
I seem to hit the cap fairly routinely just mashing mouse1. However, the pistol is actually a powerful weapon limited mostly by the low clip size. Don't be surprised when you die by it.
(And remember that by the time the server notifies your client that you've been hit, he may have fired 3-4 MORE bullets.)
<!--QuoteBegin-Bobbybirdtree+Jul 11 2005, 04:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bobbybirdtree @ Jul 11 2005, 04:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> What is so hard about pushing a button? If you need a script to shoot a pistol, you are just lazy as hell. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> It's because pressing the button fast enough to maximize pistol speed has an adverse effect on your hand's stability and thus your accuracy. Even if you don't fire faster with a pistol script, you can use it to steady your aim by not clicking as quickly.
That's where skill comes in my friend. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Zek+Jul 11 2005, 08:38 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zek @ Jul 11 2005, 08:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Bobbybirdtree+Jul 11 2005, 04:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bobbybirdtree @ Jul 11 2005, 04:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> What is so hard about pushing a button? If you need a script to shoot a pistol, you are just lazy as hell. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> It's because pressing the button fast enough to maximize pistol speed has an adverse effect on your hand's stability and thus your accuracy. Even if you don't fire faster with a pistol script, you can use it to steady your aim by not clicking as quickly. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Also mouse only have a certain amount of clicks supposidly in them so your buttons last longer but i don't really care mouse these days are sooooo cheap.
i've got the same optical mouse as i've had for many years, since about 98-99. The laser is almost dead now however and i should recieve my new MX510 in the post soon.
The mouse i've used for so many years is a basic Microsoft optical mouse, it's never failed me up until now. The wheel has never stopped working, buttons have never stopped clicking.
<!--QuoteBegin-Bobbybirdtree+Jul 11 2005, 04:51 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bobbybirdtree @ Jul 11 2005, 04:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> That's where skill comes in my friend. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> And you can accomplish more with the same amount of skill if you use a pistol script. This really isn't hard to understand. Whether or not you think it's fair, the benefit is pretty clear.
<!--QuoteBegin-Zek+Jul 11 2005, 08:57 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zek @ Jul 11 2005, 08:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Bobbybirdtree+Jul 11 2005, 04:51 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bobbybirdtree @ Jul 11 2005, 04:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> That's where skill comes in my friend. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> And you can accomplish more with the same amount of skill if you use a pistol script. This really isn't hard to understand. Whether or not you think it's fair, the benefit is pretty clear. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> No it's not. The pistol rate is capped - the only 'benifit' of a script is less wear and tear on your mouse. -_-
<!--QuoteBegin-DragonMech+Jul 11 2005, 10:44 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DragonMech @ Jul 11 2005, 10:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Zek+Jul 11 2005, 08:57 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zek @ Jul 11 2005, 08:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Bobbybirdtree+Jul 11 2005, 04:51 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bobbybirdtree @ Jul 11 2005, 04:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> That's where skill comes in my friend. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> And you can accomplish more with the same amount of skill if you use a pistol script. This really isn't hard to understand. Whether or not you think it's fair, the benefit is pretty clear. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> No it's not. The pistol rate is capped - the only 'benifit' of a script is less wear and tear on your mouse. -_- <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> The best pistolers in NS all pistol script. There is a reason for that.
<!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Jul 11 2005, 10:47 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Jul 11 2005, 10:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-DragonMech+Jul 11 2005, 10:44 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DragonMech @ Jul 11 2005, 10:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Zek+Jul 11 2005, 08:57 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zek @ Jul 11 2005, 08:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Bobbybirdtree+Jul 11 2005, 04:51 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bobbybirdtree @ Jul 11 2005, 04:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> That's where skill comes in my friend. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> And you can accomplish more with the same amount of skill if you use a pistol script. This really isn't hard to understand. Whether or not you think it's fair, the benefit is pretty clear. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> No it's not. The pistol rate is capped - the only 'benifit' of a script is less wear and tear on your mouse. -_- <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> The best pistolers in NS all pistol script. There is a reason for that. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> When I played in battery the only script I used was a 2hop for bhopping, and was arguably one of the best pistolers in ns at the time. Didn't script it, had a badass mouse that let me aim and hammer the button at the same time.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->That's where skill comes in my friend. wink-fix.gif<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
And you can accomplish more with the same amount of skill if you use a pistol script. This really isn't hard to understand. Whether or not you think it's fair, the benefit is pretty clear.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No it's not. The pistol rate is capped - the only 'benifit' of a script is less wear and tear on your mouse. -_-<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The best pistolers in NS all pistol script. There is a reason for that.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Zek+Jul 11 2005, 08:38 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zek @ Jul 11 2005, 08:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Bobbybirdtree+Jul 11 2005, 04:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bobbybirdtree @ Jul 11 2005, 04:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> What is so hard about pushing a button? If you need a script to shoot a pistol, you are just lazy as hell. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> It's because pressing the button fast enough to maximize pistol speed has an adverse effect on your hand's stability and thus your accuracy. Even if you don't fire faster with a pistol script, you can use it to steady your aim by not clicking as quickly. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Who says you have to have ONLY mouse1 bound to attack? Bind a key (or mousewheel) and hammer away without moving your mouse at all.
<!--QuoteBegin-motsew+Jul 11 2005, 11:18 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (motsew @ Jul 11 2005, 11:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i've got the same optical mouse as i've had for many years, since about 98-99. The laser is almost dead now however and i should recieve my new MX510 in the post soon.
The mouse i've used for so many years is a basic Microsoft optical mouse, it's never failed me up until now. The wheel has never stopped working, buttons have never stopped clicking. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Same mouse i have mate.
Word of advice in the logitech settings turn in-game sensitivity boost off. If you don't and you set it to max and then go in-game with a sensitivity of 5 you will spin around like crazy if you move it just a little <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Jul 11 2005, 10:47 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Jul 11 2005, 10:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-DragonMech+Jul 11 2005, 10:44 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DragonMech @ Jul 11 2005, 10:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Zek+Jul 11 2005, 08:57 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zek @ Jul 11 2005, 08:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Bobbybirdtree+Jul 11 2005, 04:51 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bobbybirdtree @ Jul 11 2005, 04:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> That's where skill comes in my friend. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> And you can accomplish more with the same amount of skill if you use a pistol script. This really isn't hard to understand. Whether or not you think it's fair, the benefit is pretty clear. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> No it's not. The pistol rate is capped - the only 'benifit' of a script is less wear and tear on your mouse. -_- <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> The best pistolers in NS all pistol script. There is a reason for that. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> youre so horribly wrong its sickening
more like, every clanner in na scene no matter how new they are will fire their pistol at you at exactly the cap rof. not like i care, just felt like pointing it out.
<!--QuoteBegin-motsew+Jul 12 2005, 01:18 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (motsew @ Jul 12 2005, 01:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i've got the same optical mouse as i've had for many years, since about 98-99. The laser is almost dead now however and i should recieve my new MX510 in the post soon.
The mouse i've used for so many years is a basic Microsoft optical mouse, it's never failed me up until now. The wheel has never stopped working, buttons have never stopped clicking. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Except it didn't illuminate with a laser. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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Some people may tell you there are "scripts" that can speed it up. It's true that there are scripts that will (for example) fire once when you press the mouse button down and once when you lift it back up. But even these are limited in speed by the rate of fire cap. People with those scripts end up having to practice clicking down and up at the right speed and rhythm, or they're likely to fire *slower* than players like me, who just repeatedly slam the mousebutton with default controls. They're still limited in firing rate just like everyone else.
[edit]Now that I think about it, this may be more accurately described as a different way to bind things instead of being a real script....but since I haven't used it and don't know exactly how it's set up, I wouldn't know which it's supposed to be called.
The cap is rather low, so it is super fast. Try binding +attack to your mwheel and try.
(And remember that by the time the server notifies your client that you've been hit, he may have fired 3-4 MORE bullets.)
It doesn't really matter as if you practice with the button bashing you can do it wihtout a script so there is no advatage given by a script here.
unlimited rof talk about a mistake
It's because pressing the button fast enough to maximize pistol speed has an adverse effect on your hand's stability and thus your accuracy. Even if you don't fire faster with a pistol script, you can use it to steady your aim by not clicking as quickly.
It's because pressing the button fast enough to maximize pistol speed has an adverse effect on your hand's stability and thus your accuracy. Even if you don't fire faster with a pistol script, you can use it to steady your aim by not clicking as quickly. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Also mouse only have a certain amount of clicks supposidly in them so your buttons last longer but i don't really care mouse these days are sooooo cheap.
The mouse i've used for so many years is a basic Microsoft optical mouse, it's never failed me up until now. The wheel has never stopped working, buttons have never stopped clicking.
And you can accomplish more with the same amount of skill if you use a pistol script. This really isn't hard to understand. Whether or not you think it's fair, the benefit is pretty clear.
And you can accomplish more with the same amount of skill if you use a pistol script. This really isn't hard to understand. Whether or not you think it's fair, the benefit is pretty clear. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
No it's not. The pistol rate is capped - the only 'benifit' of a script is less wear and tear on your mouse. -_-
And you can accomplish more with the same amount of skill if you use a pistol script. This really isn't hard to understand. Whether or not you think it's fair, the benefit is pretty clear. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No it's not. The pistol rate is capped - the only 'benifit' of a script is less wear and tear on your mouse. -_- <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
The best pistolers in NS all pistol script. There is a reason for that.
And you can accomplish more with the same amount of skill if you use a pistol script. This really isn't hard to understand. Whether or not you think it's fair, the benefit is pretty clear. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No it's not. The pistol rate is capped - the only 'benifit' of a script is less wear and tear on your mouse. -_- <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The best pistolers in NS all pistol script. There is a reason for that. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
When I played in battery the only script I used was a 2hop for bhopping, and was arguably one of the best pistolers in ns at the time. Didn't script it, had a badass mouse that let me aim and hammer the button at the same time.
And you can accomplish more with the same amount of skill if you use a pistol script. This really isn't hard to understand. Whether or not you think it's fair, the benefit is pretty clear.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No it's not. The pistol rate is capped - the only 'benifit' of a script is less wear and tear on your mouse. -_-<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The best pistolers in NS all pistol script. There is a reason for that.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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It's because pressing the button fast enough to maximize pistol speed has an adverse effect on your hand's stability and thus your accuracy. Even if you don't fire faster with a pistol script, you can use it to steady your aim by not clicking as quickly. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Who says you have to have ONLY mouse1 bound to attack? Bind a key (or mousewheel) and hammer away without moving your mouse at all.
The mouse i've used for so many years is a basic Microsoft optical mouse, it's never failed me up until now. The wheel has never stopped working, buttons have never stopped clicking. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Same mouse i have mate.
Word of advice in the logitech settings turn in-game sensitivity boost off. If you don't and you set it to max and then go in-game with a sensitivity of 5 you will spin around like crazy if you move it just a little <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
And you can accomplish more with the same amount of skill if you use a pistol script. This really isn't hard to understand. Whether or not you think it's fair, the benefit is pretty clear. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No it's not. The pistol rate is capped - the only 'benifit' of a script is less wear and tear on your mouse. -_- <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The best pistolers in NS all pistol script. There is a reason for that. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
youre so horribly wrong its sickening
more like, every clanner in na scene no matter how new they are will fire their pistol at you at exactly the cap rof. not like i care, just felt like pointing it out.
The mouse i've used for so many years is a basic Microsoft optical mouse, it's never failed me up until now. The wheel has never stopped working, buttons have never stopped clicking. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Except it didn't illuminate with a laser. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->