Illegal German Version Of Mein Kampf

BaconTheoryBaconTheory Join Date: 2003-09-06 Member: 20615Members
My grandfather is moving soon and we were helping him clean out his old stuff when we came across a German version of Mein Kampf. My grandfather was in the USAF during WWII and acquired a German version of Mein Kampf, circa-1943 that was declared illegal in Germany at the time, but he got a copy from his friend and brought it back to the US. Apparently it's hard to get one of these, and I was just wondering how much something like this wold be worth. Very interesting though.
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  • FirewaterFirewater Balance Expert Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10690Members, Constellation
    If its illegal, it would be difficult to get it appraised, as I am sure any appraisal service would have to call the authorities.
  • AlienCowAlienCow Join Date: 2003-09-20 Member: 21040Members
    Why would it have been illegal in Germany in 1943? I doubt its illegal now, I know at least one of my history teachers has read Mein Kampf, or a translated version.
  • Dirty_Harry_PotterDirty_Harry_Potter Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9500Members
    edited July 2005
    it's not illegal per say, the book is banned in Germany, so a german version acquired in Germany would be illegal there, i doubt anyone would care enough to actually get the authorities.

    concerning what it's worth, well beats me, but it might be worth a nice bunch depending if there are any crazy collecters out there.

    Aliencow: actually i think it's still banned, but i'm not sure, but i guess Nem0 or lolfighter or some other German could tell us that.
  • AlcapwnAlcapwn "War is the science of destruction" - John Abbot Join Date: 2003-06-21 Member: 17590Members
    I would keep it. Something like that could be worth mega-money in the future. (if it isnt already now)
  • reasareasa Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 8010Members, Constellation
    I'll trade you for my collection of Star-Wars Episode I themed soda cans and maybe if I'm feeling generous I'll throw in a few <i>holographic</i> Pokemon cards.

    Deal?
  • Marik_SteeleMarik_Steele To rule in hell... Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9466Members
    If you donate it to a museum's WW2 exhibit or a non-circulating library, they'll have both the resources to keep it and the personell capable of appraising it. Then you can probably get a tax deduction, and you'll get your family name on the plaque of people who've donated unique stuff or lots of money to that museum.
  • JaspJasp Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13076Members
    I don’t think ill state my views on said book, roughly involving said book and a pack of match’s.

    As Steele has stated its something to keep in the family or give to a museum as it ties to your family’s history and that of Germany’s history.

    The translation is My Struggle correct?
  • reasareasa Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 8010Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Marik Steele+Jul 28 2005, 11:45 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Marik Steele @ Jul 28 2005, 11:45 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If you donate it to a museum's WW2 exhibit or a non-circulating library, they'll have both the resources to keep it and the personell capable of appraising it. Then you can probably get a tax deduction, and you'll get your family name on the plaque of people who've donated unique stuff or lots of money to that museum. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yea but you'll probably be forced into showing up at fancy dinner parties with tons of WWII vets there who will automatically seek out the younger members of the room and attempt to impart to you their entire wealth of knowledge.

    Their like intellectual incubi. Their memories well feed off your soul like parasitic organisms, slowly sapping you of the will to live.

    Holographic Pokemon cards on the other hand look really cool under proper lighting when turned at just the right angle. They can also help you signal planes, attract mocking birds, start fires, confuse the elderly and much much more.
  • PithlitPithlit Join Date: 2003-05-07 Member: 16120Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    its not like that rare, its just that its not open sold.
    Actually about every german couple who lived at that time will probably have one.
    (It was a gift from the Führer at the time <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->)
    Well, both my grandparents still have their signed exemplars so i don´t think its that rare that it gets high prices.
  • StormLiongStormLiong Join Date: 2002-12-27 Member: 11569Members
    could it be worth millions? If it does please donate some to the NS forums
  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Unless it's signed by Hitler himself, I doubt it's worth millions. However, it wouldn't shock me if a vintage 1940s copy of the book in good condition would go for several thousand dollars.

    Your best bet? Contact a large, respectable museum dealing with WWII and ask them to appraise it, or find out who they hire to appraise items and contact him/her. Then decide what you want to do with it.

    Personally, I would follow Marik's advice and donate it to a museum. They have the resources and skills to preserve it properly, and it could get you a nice tax deduction.
  • kill4thrillskill4thrills Join Date: 2004-06-24 Member: 29506Members, Constellation
    yeah unless it's signed like:

    to my best buddy, Hans
    Sincerely, your pal Hitler, Der Fuhrer

    it's probably not worth too much. there are lots of copies around. when it was printed will probably determine it's value too. check the publishing date
  • pardzhpardzh Join Date: 2002-10-25 Member: 1601Members
    Either cram it back in the attic or give it to a museum. It's not really good for much else, right?
  • SpacerSpacer Invented dogs Join Date: 2003-05-02 Member: 16008Members
  • DuoGodOfDeathDuoGodOfDeath Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1044Members
    Reading through my main WW2 forum there are a few printed verisons of Mein Kampf. Although no one really gives a direct price. I saw $100-200 on one. And $45000 for one with Hitler's signature. If you want get some photo's of the book and than post em here:

    <a href='http://forum.axishistory.com/viewforum.php?f=23&sid=4852015ef13f344e070593284a752a33' target='_blank'>http://forum.axishistory.com/viewforum.php...70593284a752a33</a>
  • surprisesurprise Join Date: 2003-01-16 Member: 12382Members, Constellation
    the situation is quite complicated

    trading the book is illegal in germany, but owning it is not

    every country has its own laws concerning "mein kampf", and i cant imagine that it would be illegal in america

    so you are on the save side

    just check wikipedia or such, i found a topic about "mein kampf"
  • onos_turdonos_turd Join Date: 2003-08-10 Member: 19360Members
    Forge hitlers signature inside it then it will be worth loads.
  • reasareasa Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 8010Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-onos turd+Jul 28 2005, 05:13 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (onos turd @ Jul 28 2005, 05:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Forge hitlers signature inside it then it will be worth loads. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That would probably **** off Hitler's ghost, and of all the ghosts you don't want to **** off Hitler should be like in the top 5.
  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-reasa+Jul 28 2005, 07:37 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (reasa @ Jul 28 2005, 07:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-onos turd+Jul 28 2005, 05:13 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (onos turd @ Jul 28 2005, 05:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Forge hitlers signature inside it then it will be worth loads. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That would probably **** off Hitler's ghost, and of all the ghosts you don't want to **** off Hitler should be like in the top 5. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That, and the appraiser can probably date ink and recognize the smallest of mistakes. Especially from an amateur forger. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • reasareasa Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 8010Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-CForrester+Jul 28 2005, 07:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CForrester @ Jul 28 2005, 07:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> That, and the appraiser can probably date ink and recognize the smallest of mistakes. Especially from an amateur forger. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Which gives me an idea for a <i>hillarious</i> Antique Road Show blooper.

    "Umm yea this is a 1939 edition of Mien Kampf signed by The Fuhrer himself."

    "Sir...is that...is that signed in orange crayon?"

    "Yes."

    "I don't think Hitler dotted his I's with a heart..."

    "Well he and my great uncle Hans were really close."

    "I see..."

    “Like…close close”

    “What are you trying to say sir?”
  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Score one for Reasa. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • X_StickmanX_Stickman Not good enough for a custom title. Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15533Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Spacer+Jul 28 2005, 08:47 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Spacer @ Jul 28 2005, 08:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Give it to Obst? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
  • GadzukoGadzuko Join Date: 2002-12-26 Member: 11556Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-reasa+Jul 28 2005, 07:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (reasa @ Jul 28 2005, 07:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-CForrester+Jul 28 2005, 07:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CForrester @ Jul 28 2005, 07:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> That, and the appraiser can probably date ink and recognize the smallest of mistakes. Especially from an amateur forger. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Which gives me an idea for a <i>hillarious</i> Antique Road Show blooper.

    "Umm yea this is a 1939 edition of Mien Kampf signed by The Fuhrer himself."

    "Sir...is that...is that signed in orange crayon?"

    "Yes."

    "I don't think Hitler dotted his I's with a heart..."

    "Well he and my great uncle Hans were really close."

    "I see..."

    “Like…close close”

    “What are you trying to say sir?” <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    A++, would laugh again.
  • BaconTheoryBaconTheory Join Date: 2003-09-06 Member: 20615Members
    Wel las far as I known it is not illegal in America. My grandfather acquired it while overseas from a friend stationed on the lines in Germany. The book is not signed, but I did see one on ebay going fo near $200. The book is in excellent condtion, considering it's from around the 1943 time period. It's in German, which seems to be especially rare. Looks similar to this one, but in better condition:

    <img src='http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/7964/tbhpqrfq6a767xl.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    Paperback?

    Pfft..

    Those Nazis sure were cheap!
  • RatonetwothreetwooneRatonetwothreetwoone Join Date: 2004-03-23 Member: 27504Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-DOOManiac+Jul 28 2005, 09:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Jul 28 2005, 09:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Paperback?

    Pfft..

    Those Nazis sure were cheap! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    nah.. they just took the hard cover sleeve off....

    <_<
  • reasareasa Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 8010Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Gadzuko+Jul 28 2005, 08:59 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gadzuko @ Jul 28 2005, 08:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> A++, would laugh again. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If only I got those marks in school...they never appreciated me... <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • TyrainTyrain Join Date: 2003-01-03 Member: 11746Members
    Yes the book is still banned in germany, just like every other nazi symbol or anything.
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-DOOManiac+Jul 29 2005, 02:27 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Jul 29 2005, 02:27 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Those Nazis sure were cheap! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    As was said before, <i>everyone</i> in the Third Reich got one of them. If you graduated from school - you got a copy. If you married - you got a copy. If you were decorated - you got a copy. Not much point in making them sturdy; you'd get a new one in three years' time.
    It's interesting to note that for all its circulation, the book was rarely read - Hitler was an abominable writer.
  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    If it's legal, could someone provide an eBook version of the English translation, please?
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