Dont use black, its not a natural colour. If possible get some olive paint and paint you mask, use 2 or 3 different shades of green. The most effective patern for paint is possbly Dot or tiger stripe.
Best camo to buy these days, which i think is most effective in woodland is CADPAT, Flecktarn (best used in Fall) and Danish M95 (expensive)
<a href='http://www.flecktarn.co.uk' target='_blank'>Try this site on for size!</a>
yupp. Flecktarn is the ultimate choice in humid woodland areas.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> A really cheap form of camouflage is simply to strip off your clothes and smear yourself in woad. It works, too.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
That does not help because he is wearing a mask ...
Stick to simple things that really do make a difference. Avoid metal reflection, unnatural colours and disguise the shape of your mask and marker. Anything else is overkill.
<!--QuoteBegin-kill4thrills+Aug 3 2005, 01:49 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (kill4thrills @ Aug 3 2005, 01:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-wiki+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (wiki)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Ghillie suits can be constructed in many different ways. Some services make them of rough burlap flaps attached to a net poncho. US Army Ghillie suits are often built using a pilot's flightsuit, battle dress uniform (BDU), or some other one-piece coverall as the base. Unscented dental floss is used to sew each knot of fishnet to the fabric, in the areas to be camouflaged. A drop of Shoe Goo is applied to each knot for strength. The desired jute is applied to the netting by tying groups of 3-4 strands of a color to the netting with simple knots, skipping sections to be filled in with other colors.
A ghillie suit is usually prepared by assembling it, beating it, dragging it behind a car, and then rolling it in cow manure or burying it in mud and then letting it ferment. This makes it very much like wearable humus. As with the foil blankets mentioned above, a ghillie suit that closely matches the actual terrain of the zone of operation will stand out less, so elements of that general environment (local foliage or other matter) may also be included in the netting.
An inherent problem with ghillie suits is internal (and sometimes, external) temperatures. Even in relatively moderate climates, the temperature inside of the ghillie suit can soar to over 120 degrees Fahrenheit. This can also proposes fire concerns, and usually suits have spray on flame retardant applied. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
you can make your own ghillie suit. you'll need some manure, or mud. real men use manure <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yea, real stinky men <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Geminosity+Aug 3 2005, 05:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Geminosity @ Aug 3 2005, 05:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Am I the only one who looks at these ghile photos and feels the urge to sing the 'swamp thing' song? ^^; <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yes.
<!--QuoteBegin-Geminosity+Aug 3 2005, 11:12 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Geminosity @ Aug 3 2005, 11:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Am I the only one who looks at these ghile photos and feels the urge to sing the 'swamp thing' song? ^^; <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> No
<!--QuoteBegin-Geminosity+Aug 3 2005, 12:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Geminosity @ Aug 3 2005, 12:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Am I the only one who looks at these ghile photos and feels the urge to sing the 'swamp thing' song? ^^; <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yes.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Am I the only one who looks at these ghile photos and feels the urge to sing the 'swamp thing' song? ^^;<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> yes ... caboose ... are you a guy ? <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
i own one of <a href='http://www.militarykit.com/images/products_full/t-shirt_printed_union_jack_target.jpg' target='_blank'>these</a> for use in jsut the same scenario. i was never i willl admit the type to spen hours camoflagued waiting for some one to come by. however taht said a good piece of cover is more hlepfll coupled with your ears than cammo and no sense.
Paintball = Real Combat - Death - Serious Injury (with proper protection) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I thought real guns haven't been that innacurate since flintlock rifles.
That's my main gripe about paintball. I'm a fairly good shot, but the markers just weren't accurate enough to be useful at anything but extremely close range (either that or you have to fire machinegun-like to compensate, which sucks when you have to pay for ammo). <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> If the guns are inaccurate there are several solutions:
- Get your own marker - Move closer for better accuracy - Out-manouvre your opponant (bunker king ftw!) - Fire in bursts to minimize loss of accuracy - Get friendly with the guys who run the site and ask them to increase the pressure on your marker for straighter (and faster) firing! They'll usually only do this if they know you're not going to shoot people in painful places, though. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I know there are ways around it. I'd just prefer to be able to pick people off from further than five meters :/
Oh, while we're at it, when I did paintball we were all issued with camo overalls with a different camo pattern depending on the team - Auscam or Woodland. I was on Auscam (Australian army camo). One round we had to attack this fortress thing held by the other team, where there was a creek running from our start position to the fortress on our left, with a sparsely tree'd area to the right of it.
Anyway, while most of my team attacked from across the river, I had the idea of crawling on my belly through the trees on the other side. I deliberately moved very slowly, and they didn't spot me. I didn't get within range before we ran out of time, but they hadn't managed to spot me (I asked).
So... sometimes maybe just an ordinary army camo outfit works?
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Best camo to buy these days, which i think is most effective in woodland is CADPAT, Flecktarn (best used in Fall) and Danish M95 (expensive)
<a href='http://www.flecktarn.co.uk' target='_blank'>Try this site on for size!</a>
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> A really cheap form of camouflage is simply to strip off your clothes and smear yourself in woad. It works, too.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
That does not help because he is wearing a mask ...
Stick to simple things that really do make a difference. Avoid metal reflection, unnatural colours and disguise the shape of your mask and marker. Anything else is overkill.
Ghillie suits can be constructed in many different ways. Some services make them of rough burlap flaps attached to a net poncho. US Army Ghillie suits are often built using a pilot's flightsuit, battle dress uniform (BDU), or some other one-piece coverall as the base. Unscented dental floss is used to sew each knot of fishnet to the fabric, in the areas to be camouflaged. A drop of Shoe Goo is applied to each knot for strength. The desired jute is applied to the netting by tying groups of 3-4 strands of a color to the netting with simple knots, skipping sections to be filled in with other colors.
A ghillie suit is usually prepared by assembling it, beating it, dragging it behind a car, and then rolling it in cow manure or burying it in mud and then letting it ferment. This makes it very much like wearable humus. As with the foil blankets mentioned above, a ghillie suit that closely matches the actual terrain of the zone of operation will stand out less, so elements of that general environment (local foliage or other matter) may also be included in the netting.
An inherent problem with ghillie suits is internal (and sometimes, external) temperatures. Even in relatively moderate climates, the temperature inside of the ghillie suit can soar to over 120 degrees Fahrenheit. This can also proposes fire concerns, and usually suits have spray on flame retardant applied.
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
you can make your own ghillie suit. you'll need some manure, or mud. real men use manure <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yea, real stinky men <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Yes.
No
Yes.
yes ... caboose ... are you a guy ? <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Paintball = Real Combat - Death - Serious Injury (with proper protection) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I thought real guns haven't been that innacurate since flintlock rifles.
That's my main gripe about paintball. I'm a fairly good shot, but the markers just weren't accurate enough to be useful at anything but extremely close range (either that or you have to fire machinegun-like to compensate, which sucks when you have to pay for ammo). <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
If the guns are inaccurate there are several solutions:
- Get your own marker
- Move closer for better accuracy
- Out-manouvre your opponant (bunker king ftw!)
- Fire in bursts to minimize loss of accuracy
- Get friendly with the guys who run the site and ask them to increase the pressure on your marker for straighter (and faster) firing! They'll usually only do this if they know you're not going to shoot people in painful places, though. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I know there are ways around it. I'd just prefer to be able to pick people off from further than five meters :/
Oh, while we're at it, when I did paintball we were all issued with camo overalls with a different camo pattern depending on the team - Auscam or Woodland. I was on Auscam (Australian army camo). One round we had to attack this fortress thing held by the other team, where there was a creek running from our start position to the fortress on our left, with a sparsely tree'd area to the right of it.
Anyway, while most of my team attacked from across the river, I had the idea of crawling on my belly through the trees on the other side. I deliberately moved very slowly, and they didn't spot me. I didn't get within range before we ran out of time, but they hadn't managed to spot me (I asked).
So... sometimes maybe just an ordinary army camo outfit works?