What do you want sig image sizes to be?

Marik_SteeleMarik_Steele To rule in hell... Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9466Members
So far, we've been using rules posted in <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com:90/forums/index.php?s=3658489309764665856&showtopic=91822" target="_blank">this thread</a> that say the following about sig size limits:

<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Sig images must be no more than 400 pixels wide x 75 pixels high, and they must also be no more than 22KB in size.
Avatars must be no more than 64 pixels x 64 pixels, and they must also be no more than 22KB in size. Hopefully they will not run anywhere near this limit.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

While the forums were down, some of us staff members were chatting a bit about increasing these limits.

Your answer above may affect a decision. There's still stuff we need to consider on our end, so I'm making no guarantees, but I'd like to see what you all think.

Once you've answered the poll question, post below about what pixel/filesize you'd like.

For reference I'll list a few sig images we've had people want to use in the past:
The 2nd biggest banner for the 2005 Child's Play charity was 468x60 pixels. It looked like this: <img src="http://www.childsplaycharity.org/img/cp468.gif" border="0" alt="IPB Image" />
The "classic" [read: largest] xfire miniprofile image is 440x111 pixels.
The "short & wide" xfire miniprofile image is 450x34 pixels.
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  • douchebagatrondouchebagatron Custom member title Join Date: 2003-12-20 Member: 24581Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    i think it is fine the way it is, but if you must increase it i just ask not to make it taller. wider and more larger files are ok, just not taller.
  • CatCopCatCop Join Date: 2003-08-28 Member: 20296Members, Constellation
    It's just fine the way it is, Speak of the devil my avatar/signature are gone... What the heck happened last year? I must have been drunk.
  • surprisesurprise Join Date: 2003-01-16 Member: 12382Members, Constellation
    i think its fine as it is

    i dont really mind if sigs may be wider, but as 6john says, taller would not be good
    the problem is, somewhere there HAS to be a border, and even if you increase that border, there will still be people complaining because there are cool banners just 20 pixels wider...

    my 2 cent
  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    edited July 2006
    I voted no, but I wouldn't mind a very conservative increase. 460*80 sounds about right to me, but the limit for my likings is 500*100. And still, that might overflow on some smaller resolutions... As long as they don't get much taller than they already are, I would support an increase. Most for things like that Child's Play banner, though.

    [Edit:] I would also support just easing up a bit on the enforcement of sig sizes.. Like, letting a just slightly oversized sig go on. Nothing unreasonable, though.

    [Edit 2:]
    This man is a dirty, rotten liar. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink-fix.gif" />
    \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
  • DelarosaDelarosa Naturally Custom Join Date: 2002-11-29 Member: 10214Members, NS1 Playtester
    edited July 2006
    our sig limits aren't 'standard' by any means... but require people to improvise and get more efficitent...


    (wow... didn't expect to see those results!)

    ps... everyone that posted above me (excluding you marik) have oversized avatars... and marik holds an oversized signature <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody&#39;s near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    I'm quite content with the sizes as is. (Even though mine are broken right this second!) I'd personally lean towards whatever fits the mini XFire one.

    - Shockwave
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    I love the efficient sizes that we have now. I go onto other forums and wonder "Why do you need all that space? Nubs."

    BUT, I would like to see the 22kb bumped up to 44kb. Bandwidth expectancies of games today has gone way up- while we don't want to make sigs bigger and clutter things up, allowing a bit more variation in the sigs, maybe a tad bit of gif animation, I don't think would hurt, as long as it stayed in the 400x75 limitation.
  • GlissGliss Join Date: 2003-03-23 Member: 14800Members, Constellation, NS2 Map Tester
    edited July 2006
    lol, "I am 22KB" just came to mind
    (one of them was actually 22.001 or something insignificant and was still removed :<)
  • CabooseCaboose title = name(self, handle) Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13597Members, Constellation
    I'd like to see something like 400x100 and 44kb

    400x100 seems to be the standard at many other forums I've seen 25 pixels can't hurt that much...

    One thing I remember when making sigs was that it was quite dificult at times to show proper detail on certain things.

    Looks like I'm outnumbered 9 to 1 here though...
  • puzlpuzl The Old Firm Join Date: 2003-02-26 Member: 14029Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    I voted no, becuase I'd rather see them as they are than grow significantly. However, if a small widening of the sig size was being proposed, I'd not have any objections to that.
  • PetcoPetco Join Date: 2003-07-27 Member: 18478Members, Constellation
    edited July 2006
    Yeah, NS forums doesn't have the horrors of other forums. I usually "adblock" (Firefox ftw) any image that are oversized. Heck I would have just disabled sigs and avatars, but some are actually pretty nice.

    Also didn't the old site have some sort of automatic resizing of avatars? Currently many people's avatar that are constellation members are bigger than the rules apply. Most seem the same before the forums were down.

    Because I don't even remember my avatar being this big on the forums, the ones right now are the actual size but I remember it being smaller for the forums.


    One last thing, the size limit could be an increase(talking about bytes), unless forums have some sort of limited space.

    Edit: Although I do have two sig pics, the combined power of them both is only 401x97 and a little more than 8kb. I'm breaking the laws by a little bit <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" /> , but you said you'd give us a little break from the rules while we're testing.
  • Garet_JaxGaret_Jax Join Date: 2003-02-23 Member: 13870Members, Constellation
    edited July 2006
    Thing is, there seems to be a set space on Invision forums for signatures- and the current size restrictions means there's still a gap at the end of our posts.

    I say- raise the restrictions to match this gap.

    (Apparantely my current XFire sig is breaking the restrictions. Look at the damn thing! It's tiny! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" /> )
  • puzlpuzl The Old Firm Join Date: 2003-02-26 Member: 14029Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    edited July 2006
    your xfire sig is breaking the width, not the height. The space at the end only appears if your post is shorted in height than the left hand side user summary. Look at the post right about yours.

    Or

    Maybe

    Look

    At

    This One.


    PS: My sig exactly matches the forum restrictions because the guy who made the sig image had to redo it so I could use it here.
  • PetcoPetco Join Date: 2003-07-27 Member: 18478Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1563711:date=Jul 20 2006, 03:44 AM:name=puzl)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(puzl @ Jul 20 2006, 03:44 AM) [snapback]1563711[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    your xfire sig is breaking the width, not the height. The space at the end only appears if your post is shorted in height than the left hand side user summary. Look at the post right about yours.

    Or

    Maybe

    Look

    At

    This One.
    PS: My sig exactly matches the forum restrictions because the guy who made the sig image had to redo it so I could use it here.
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    He means the gap this way ----------------------------------------------------------------------------->

    As in he means we should expand the width restrictions to come closer to that gap.
  • Garet_JaxGaret_Jax Join Date: 2003-02-23 Member: 13870Members, Constellation
  • puzlpuzl The Old Firm Join Date: 2003-02-26 Member: 14029Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    I don't think he meant that petco. He talks about a gap 'at the end'.

    Anyway, I have no objection to a slight width increase as long as the filesize restriction doesn't have to bloat too much.
  • CoolCookieCooksCoolCookieCooks Pretty Girl Join Date: 2003-05-18 Member: 16446Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation
    but yours is 400x77 puzl <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" />
  • puzlpuzl The Old Firm Join Date: 2003-02-26 Member: 14029Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    yeah, I just noticed that, I think that's the last.fm sig generator adding a couple of lines.

    I can probably fix that.
  • PithlitPithlit Join Date: 2003-05-07 Member: 16120Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    I think the current size is enough creative space for people to fool around on.
    If anything the filesize that is allowed could be increased, but not the dimensions.
    Its enough as it is currently.
  • TheAdjTheAdj He demanded a cool forum title of some type. Join Date: 2004-05-03 Member: 28436Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    edited July 2006
    Am I the only one that thinks signatures are totally overrated? I see no reason to spend time on one. Leave the restrictions as is or increase slightly, but don't bump up the file size much. Some people pay for bandwidth, and paying to see sh**** signatures wouldn't be too high on my list of things to do.
  • AhnteisAhnteis teh Bob Join Date: 2002-10-02 Member: 1405Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    I voted no, but I forgot how small the width restriction is. I'd like to see that bumped to 500, but leave the height as is and don't increase the filesize much.

    Avatars are fine as-is.
  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1563743:date=Jul 20 2006, 10:22 AM:name=TheAdj)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TheAdj @ Jul 20 2006, 10:22 AM) [snapback]1563743[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Am I the only one that thinks signatures are totally overrated? I see no reason to spend time on one. Leave the restrictions as is or increase slightly, but don't bump up the file size much. Some people pay for bandwidth, and paying to see sh**** signatures wouldn't be too high on my list of things to do.
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    Eh... If I were paying for bandwidth, I'd definitely turn sigs and avatars off. Posted images and smilies too, most likely. My Controls> Board Settings.
  • tigersmithtigersmith Join Date: 2004-11-11 Member: 32749Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Supporter
    <!--quoteo(post=1563669:date=Jul 20 2006, 04:00 AM:name=Shockwave)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Shockwave @ Jul 20 2006, 04:00 AM) [snapback]1563669[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    I'm quite content with the sizes as is. (Even though mine are broken right this second!) I'd personally lean towards whatever fits the mini XFire one.

    - Shockwave
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    my xfire one is not the mini, ill change it
  • JimmehJimmeh Join Date: 2003-08-24 Member: 20173Members, Constellation
    Keep it as it is.

    The sig's aren't distracting.
    They don't fill up half the page.
    They take less than a second to load.
    The size limits for people to be creative and resourceful rather than just filling a huge image with crap.
  • BobTheJanitorBobTheJanitor Join Date: 2003-12-10 Member: 24228Members, NS1 Playtester
    I'm pretty much fine with it either way. I like well done sigs, and I find that the more stringent limits you impose on people, the more likely they are to find creative ways to use all the meager resources they're given. Tell people sigs can only be 200x50 pixels, 4kb in size, and only use EGA graphics, and someone will still find a way to make one that looks like art.

    On the other hand, tell people they can be any size at all, and you get sigs that take up half the page with pictures of some godawful anime character. And that person always has to be the one that posts 20 times per page, so your page length is increased ridiculously. Ugh. This is why I don't browse many other forums. Where was I going with this? Oh well. Sigs! Also welcome back folks.
  • SLizerSLizer Join Date: 2003-11-07 Member: 22363Members, Constellation
    I think its well fine as they are now, Making the bit larger or bigger wouldnt be bad for some people I guess. Only thing that isnt good is the previously mentioned hightening. SAY NO TO TALL SIGS!
  • uk_jauk_ja Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11245Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1563743:date=Jul 20 2006, 10:22 AM:name=TheAdj)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TheAdj @ Jul 20 2006, 10:22 AM) [snapback]1563743[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Am I the only one that thinks signatures are totally overrated? I see no reason to spend time on one. Leave the restrictions as is or increase slightly, but don't bump up the file size much. Some people pay for bandwidth, and paying to see sh**** signatures wouldn't be too high on my list of things to do.
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    My sentiments aswell
  • CabooseCaboose title = name(self, handle) Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13597Members, Constellation
    Keep it as it is says the guy with the 400x100 sig...

    Which, by the way, is not distracting in the least, I see no harm in 400x100, it allows more detail.
  • BlackMageBlackMage [citation needed] Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17474Members, Constellation
    edited July 2006
    i vote for smaller! 325x70 FTW
  • CoolCookieCooksCoolCookieCooks Pretty Girl Join Date: 2003-05-18 Member: 16446Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation
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