Encouragement

DrekDrek Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11165Members
(this is a repost from before the rollback)

I just wanted to add a note of encouragement. I don't think anyone who hasn't been involved in creating a game, whether it is a mod, or a full game engine, has any clue as to how much time, energy, blood, sweat, tears and money is involved. Natural Selection is the most original, creative and sophisticated mod ever created for Half-Life one, and on top of that it has production values that are equal to, or better than any of the official mods that have been released; the only one that even comes close is, perhaps, Day of Defeat. If any mod deserves to succeed, and make its creators fat and rich, Natural Selection is the one.

So I'm glad to see Flayra and NS getting back on their feet after what has obviously been a very tough year, and I appreciate the openness and honesty about the struggles that have been faced. They give a very interesting, and somewhat painful, look into the very demanding and difficult business of game creation. But every great game is more than a game, it is as much a work of art as anything created by any great painter, sculptor, or author, and great art generally requires a blood sacrifice of some sort. Let's hope that all the necessary blood has already been spilled for Natural Selection.

Best wishes to Flayra and everyone involved in Unknown Worlds. If I was a wealthy investor I would happily invest, but I'm afraid the best I can offer right now is some words of encouragement.

Comments

  • DooGieDooGie Join Date: 2005-01-10 Member: 34531Members, Constellation
    edited September 2006
    Indeed mate. If I <swung that way>, I would marry Flayra (when I say Flayra, I mean the whole NSDev team, including PT's ul).

    Keep on : >

    Edit by Scythe: Don't dodge the swear filter please.
  • PetcoPetco Join Date: 2003-07-27 Member: 18478Members, Constellation
    Reposting this from the post I made in this topic, you can help support NS right now by buying Zen of Sudoku or the <a href="http://www.cafepress.com/thensstore" target="_blank">the NS store.</a>
  • cerberus414cerberus414 Join Date: 2005-05-07 Member: 51098Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Out of curiosity, how many people have bought ns gear? I'm actually thinking about getting a t-shirt and advertise in my school. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" /> Just don't want to be the first one
  • CalebCaleb Join Date: 2004-06-04 Member: 29103Members
    while im not a buyer *no credit card, dont buy online period*, i AM glad to see the place back to some semblence of functionality. cant wait to see when the boards are opened to the public. keep it up, guys!
  • BigDBigD [OldF] Join Date: 2002-10-25 Member: 1596Members
  • SanchoSancho Join Date: 2002-03-30 Member: 365Members
  • PetcoPetco Join Date: 2003-07-27 Member: 18478Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1566191:date=Sep 14 2006, 08:53 PM:name=cerberus5)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(cerberus5 @ Sep 14 2006, 08:53 PM) [snapback]1566191[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Out of curiosity, how many people have bought ns gear? I'm actually thinking about getting a t-shirt and advertise in my school. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" /> Just don't want to be the first one
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    I wish there were black t-shirts. But personality, I'd rather buy an NS-mouse pad or even an NS-poster than a t-shirt.


    I think the t-shirt is a little too plain.
  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody&#39;s near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    A chain in the UK will convert any media you like into a Canvas painting. I'm being tempted by the Kharaa Eye picture.... <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" />

    - Shockwave
  • FlayraFlayra Game Director, Unknown Worlds Entertainment San Francisco Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 3Super Administrators, NS2 Developer, Subnautica Developer
    Aww, thanks guys. That's really nice of you. You may be giving us too much credit, but I'm not complaining.

    Actually, I do think that the hardest part is now behind us. I definitely learned a whole lot in the past two year (translation: made a lot of mistakes) and I feel like our plan forward now is rock-solid. I was a little too focused on my dream future of the game instead of cash flow and that was a painful lesson to learn, but I'd rather learn it now when I can recover instead of later when it would kill the company.

    We do have a few big announcements we're going to make soon, shortly after the site is back and I think Unknown Worlds and NS are going to pick up a lot of momentum now. Zen of Sudoku looks like it's going to fund the company long enough to get the next NS game done, which I think is going to knock your socks off.

    You guys have always been the reason for us to to keep going, no matter how tough it got. I've consistently been amazed at how much the community has helped us when we simply asked. You are a precious resource that's worth nurturing no matter what. This huge downtime will only prove just how resilient and passionate you guys are.

    Onward and upward!

    -Charlie
  • urinalcakeurinalcake Can&#39;t work a sound card United States Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7799Members
    On that note Charlie, I think some of it was for the better. Yeah, we all had a downtime and such, and NS has suffered, but stuff happens. We learn from our mistakes.

    I know I have defenitely learned from my mistakes. Probably, about 6 or 7 months ago, I had little confidence in the team, like a lot of the community. I wasn't a big proponet of the idea of NS returning or the forums, for that matter. My outlook in things has changed, and I'm sure UWE will easily be able to pull itself up from its bootstraps.

    On a note for things for the better? NS gave me the experience and knowledge I needed to, to move on and look into other games and become big into the communities. Once I started with my contributions and such, I became tester after tester for mods and small games. Eventually, it landed me a job at Epic Games, and I'm very happy because of it.

    Charlie, even though some of us may of not been supportive of you, or even believed in you, because I know at one point I had lost hope, I think a good amount of us are here now. You can't run a game company without a fanbase, or else you become Atari. BAZING.

    Anyways, all the best of luck. And I support UWE as much as I can without actually buying Zen yet.. I'm buying it for my sister in law's birthday, but thats not for another month and a half. :/

    Flay, if you read this, send me an email sometime, I know I sent you one.
  • AlcapwnAlcapwn &quot;War is the science of destruction&quot; - John Abbot Join Date: 2003-06-21 Member: 17590Members
    Cant wait for the NS:S. NS is my favorite game of all-time, and i cant wait too see it bigger and better. Next year will be my senior year in highschool, so if you decide to release it sometime then...i'll be playing like 8 hrs a day, lol. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/marine.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::marine::" border="0" alt="marine.gif" />
  • SudzzSudzz Join Date: 2003-08-01 Member: 18663Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1566191:date=Sep 14 2006, 11:53 PM:name=cerberus5)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(cerberus5 @ Sep 14 2006, 11:53 PM) [snapback]1566191[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Out of curiosity, how many people have bought ns gear? I'm actually thinking about getting a t-shirt and advertise in my school. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" /> Just don't want to be the first one
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    I bought my cousin a T.S.A. poster as a birthday present a few years ago. He still has it up in his room today.
  • cerberus414cerberus414 Join Date: 2005-05-07 Member: 51098Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
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    I bought my cousin a T.S.A. poster as a birthday present a few years ago. He still has it up in his room today.
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    Nice. I assume he plays NS too and was stunned when you gave him a t-shirt? It's cool, I just hope that if I buy one, it won't be a one-time deal when I put it in my laundry rofl.
  • SlayerOfSkulksSlayerOfSkulks Join Date: 2003-06-23 Member: 17634Members
    Personally, I think the fact that the forums are already coming to life again after such a long downtime, even though they're not officially "live", says a lot for how much support there is for NS and for CC. As someone who bought ZoS primarily to help Flayra out (although it's a damn good game in it's own right), I for one am glad that things are moving again. I'd forgotten how much I missed this place. ::sniff::

    So, yeah. Let's see how things go, shall we?
  • ValoValo Join Date: 2005-03-22 Member: 46102Members, Constellation, NS2 Playtester
    yeah thankyou for making this game, i think its the only game i've ever acutally played and got deeply involved in and stayed interested in.
  • J_D_WJ_D_W Join Date: 2003-05-22 Member: 16598Members
    I really hope NS keeps going for at least another 5 years and hopefully longer, its a great game, just a few flaws (balance, 8 year old goldsrc engine) but with NS:S and NS2 it should all get even better.
    So keep going dev team, you are doing great, big setback with the website though :*(
  • KayomaniKayomani Join Date: 2003-05-17 Member: 16399Members, Constellation
    Its like duke nukem forever except it actually happens..


    I am looking forward to ns:s keep it up.
  • SinSpawnSinSpawn Harbinger of Suffering Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8359Members
    edited September 2006
    Encouragement...

    are we talking about "Send the boys down to <b><i>encourage</i></b>"
    or
    lets hire a "strip dancer wooo!" <b><i>encourage</i></b>

    el oh el.
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