<!--quoteo(post=1590876:date=Dec 21 2006, 10:52 PM:name=Depot)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Depot @ Dec 21 2006, 10:52 PM) [snapback]1590876[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> Bad advice, seriously. Many types of depression (dependent on the type, of course) are caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain, which can be remedied only by prescription drugs.
"Don't be afraid to tell the quack "NO".?!? Could you be more specific as to who you consider a "quack"? <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I already accounted for manic depression and other bipolar disorders in a later post.
A quack = psychiatrist.
And since when is "research the substances you plan to take into your body" ever bad advice? You people are seriously delusional with the absolute faith you place in doctors. I'm not saying all doctors, or even a majority of them, are incompetent, bias or operating in any capacity but the one to ensure your well-being... however, there is a significant portion of doctors that do fall into those catagories. Hence; research what you take into your body. I advise it for prescription drugs, I advise it for vitamins, I advise it for illegal drugs, I advise it for food. Let's be less ignorant.
Also, please, everybody, feel free to read my posts. If you have a negative view of my advice, re-read my posts, and then read them again and again, because there is something wrong with either your appreciation of medicine, or your understanding of my posts.
<!--quoteo(post=1590888:date=Dec 21 2006, 12:08 PM:name=emperor_awesome)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(emperor_awesome @ Dec 21 2006, 12:08 PM) [snapback]1590888[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> I already accounted for manic depression and other bipolar disorders in a later post.
A quack = psychiatrist.
And since when is "research the substances you plan to take into your body" ever bad advice? You people are seriously delusional with the absolute faith you place in doctors. I'm not saying all doctors, or even a majority of them, are incompetent, bias or operating in any capacity but the one to ensure your well-being... however, there is a significant portion of doctors that do fall into those catagories. Hence; research what you take into your body. I advise it for prescription drugs, I advise it for vitamins, I advise it for illegal drugs, I advise it for food. Let's be less ignorant.
Also, please, everybody, feel free to read my posts. If you have a negative view of my advice, re-read my posts, and then read them again and again, because there is something wrong with either your appreciation of medicine, or your understanding of my posts. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I place much more faith in my belief in doctors vs folk medicine or paranoid beliefs that the doctors are out to get me doped up on neurochemical regulators. Infact, I trust the neurochemicals vs I trust some random idiot I met on a web forum. I would have to be absolutely retarded to take yours or anyone's advice on matters regarding to health.
Would you go to a Counter-Strike board for advice on Chemotherapy? Of course not. Because chances are Solid-Shank778 is not a very qualified person to go to in regards to chemotherapy treatment. Another thing I would like to point out, is certain chemicals used in neuromedicine are dangerous for you. Lithium is extremely toxic in humans, but often it's the only course of treatment (various reasons, such as allergic reaction to other chemicals ect ect.)
It's good you state things like "look into what your putting into your body." But don't tell someone to think their doctor is out to get them. What the hell wrong with you? It's lunacy.
On a personal note, I find this whole debate not only scary but the fact people like emperor actually think what they are saying is "the right thing". Whenever someone is in metal duress the best move is always see a doctor. Please.
Psychiatrists are not quacks, by defintion quackery is ignorance of a medical field. By that very definition YOU are a quack. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />
A quack is "a pretender to medical skill". To the best of my knowledge a psychiatrist has extensive medical training and holds a mediacl degree in his field, so this hardly makes him a quack.
<!--quoteo(post=1590894:date=Dec 21 2006, 12:20 PM:name=Depot)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Depot @ Dec 21 2006, 12:20 PM) [snapback]1590894[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> A quack is "a pretender to medical skill". To the best of my knowledge a psychiatrist has extensive medical training and holds a mediacl degree in his field, so this hardly makes him a quack. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No to some people, all that means is they were trained to issue pills. This is why people like me make sure that people like Emps don't get away with such things. For alot of people when it comes to neurochemistry, it's actually a very young field when it comes to medicine, and we as a people are trying our hardest to help make the world a better place for those with chemical imbalances. It's people like emps who cause people who are already highly volatile to become very paranoid about what their doctors are doing, this causes them to go off their medication, then all hell breaks loose.
This might not be the case with Otto, but the reason I'm going after this is on principle. I hope some of you understand.
What more do I need to say? If people actually read the posts I've made, there is more than enough there to convince anybody of sound mind that my advice is intelligent and beneficial. I should not have to sit here and repeatedly defend myself the exact same way to a myriad of unintelligible, uncomprehending... gentlemen. Anybody considering lending weight to the counter-arguments to my position should take a second and review my actual position. The "counter-arguments" consist of nothing more but uninspired flames attacking a fabricated distortion of my actual advice and meaning, as well as me personally. How quaint -- this is the internet, after all.
Revlic, I remind you that your self-gratuitous dribble has trolled me, flamed me, and served no purpose but to emphasise the weakness of your "arguments". Always suspect a man who has to revert to personal attacks and logical fallacies to distract from the incompetence of his own position.
I'm out. Anybody else with questions for me, re-read all of my posts until you actually comprehend what I am saying, as Revlic and others have so obnoxiously demonstrated that they do not. If anybody wants to learn something, PM me with a positive attitude, a good brain and a desire to learn. Flames will not be tolerated, and since I'm not an admin or a moderator, I can only politely ask Revlic to reconsider his current tactics of trolling and flaming. Cheers.
Keep flaming guys, its really cheering me up <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" /> (not a fake post)
Good for you Otto. The nice thing about your symptoms is that they are totally treatable. Many people are scared of therapy because they don't want to feel "broken" but it's just smart for everyone to get some from time to time.
I've been amazed at the help and peace I've found from working on my "issues" and there's really no better use of your time. Commit to the help and be open to change and your life will improve. Really!
<!--quoteo(post=1591003:date=Dec 21 2006, 03:04 PM:name=Flayra)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Flayra @ Dec 21 2006, 03:04 PM) [snapback]1591003[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> Good for you Otto. The nice thing about your symptoms is that they are totally treatable. Many people are scared of therapy because they don't want to feel "broken" but it's just smart for everyone to get some from time to time.
I've been amazed at the help and peace I've found from working on my "issues" and there's really no better use of your time. Commit to the help and be open to change and your life will improve. Really! <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Very good advice and I agree wholeheartedly. Daily stress is a fact of life, and everyone is equipped to deal with it differently. There is absolutely no shame in seeking professional help - just try to find someone highly recommended by your peers.
Things <b>WILL</b> get better Otto. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink-fix.gif" />
I was on SSRIs for a short while and hated it. I found seeing a psychologist really helped, though some psychs are better than others, and the thing is to find one you're comfortable with anyway.
<!--quoteo(post=1591234:date=Dec 22 2006, 07:14 AM:name=Depot)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Depot @ Dec 22 2006, 07:14 AM) [snapback]1591234[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> Very good advice and I agree wholeheartedly. Daily stress is a fact of life, and everyone is equipped to deal with it differently. There is absolutely no shame in seeking professional help - just try to find someone highly recommended by your peers.
Things <b>WILL</b> get better Otto. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink-fix.gif" /> <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Highly recommended at this point is being rephrased into 'free'. Oh well. Better than nothing.
Christmas Season is a very rough time for people suffering from depressions. the relationship i have with my parents are strained,to say the least,so i can understand how difficult that must have been for you. I can only wish you good luck,and admire you for your actions.
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Bad advice, seriously. Many types of depression (dependent on the type, of course) are caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain, which can be remedied only by prescription drugs.
"Don't be afraid to tell the quack "NO".?!? Could you be more specific as to who you consider a "quack"?
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I already accounted for manic depression and other bipolar disorders in a later post.
A quack = psychiatrist.
And since when is "research the substances you plan to take into your body" ever bad advice? You people are seriously delusional with the absolute faith you place in doctors. I'm not saying all doctors, or even a majority of them, are incompetent, bias or operating in any capacity but the one to ensure your well-being... however, there is a significant portion of doctors that do fall into those catagories. Hence; research what you take into your body. I advise it for prescription drugs, I advise it for vitamins, I advise it for illegal drugs, I advise it for food. Let's be less ignorant.
Also, please, everybody, feel free to read my posts. If you have a negative view of my advice, re-read my posts, and then read them again and again, because there is something wrong with either your appreciation of medicine, or your understanding of my posts.
I already accounted for manic depression and other bipolar disorders in a later post.
A quack = psychiatrist.
And since when is "research the substances you plan to take into your body" ever bad advice? You people are seriously delusional with the absolute faith you place in doctors. I'm not saying all doctors, or even a majority of them, are incompetent, bias or operating in any capacity but the one to ensure your well-being... however, there is a significant portion of doctors that do fall into those catagories. Hence; research what you take into your body. I advise it for prescription drugs, I advise it for vitamins, I advise it for illegal drugs, I advise it for food. Let's be less ignorant.
Also, please, everybody, feel free to read my posts. If you have a negative view of my advice, re-read my posts, and then read them again and again, because there is something wrong with either your appreciation of medicine, or your understanding of my posts.
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I place much more faith in my belief in doctors vs folk medicine or paranoid beliefs that the doctors are out to get me doped up on neurochemical regulators. Infact, I trust the neurochemicals vs I trust some random idiot I met on a web forum. I would have to be absolutely retarded to take yours or anyone's advice on matters regarding to health.
Would you go to a Counter-Strike board for advice on Chemotherapy? Of course not. Because chances are Solid-Shank778 is not a very qualified person to go to in regards to chemotherapy treatment. Another thing I would like to point out, is certain chemicals used in neuromedicine are dangerous for you. Lithium is extremely toxic in humans, but often it's the only course of treatment (various reasons, such as allergic reaction to other chemicals ect ect.)
It's good you state things like "look into what your putting into your body." But don't tell someone to think their doctor is out to get them. What the hell wrong with you? It's lunacy.
On a personal note, I find this whole debate not only scary but the fact people like emperor actually think what they are saying is "the right thing". Whenever someone is in metal duress the best move is always see a doctor. Please.
Psychiatrists are not quacks, by defintion quackery is ignorance of a medical field. By that very definition YOU are a quack. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />
A quack is "a pretender to medical skill". To the best of my knowledge a psychiatrist has extensive medical training and holds a mediacl degree in his field, so this hardly makes him a quack.
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No to some people, all that means is they were trained to issue pills. This is why people like me make sure that people like Emps don't get away with such things. For alot of people when it comes to neurochemistry, it's actually a very young field when it comes to medicine, and we as a people are trying our hardest to help make the world a better place for those with chemical imbalances. It's people like emps who cause people who are already highly volatile to become very paranoid about what their doctors are doing, this causes them to go off their medication, then all hell breaks loose.
This might not be the case with Otto, but the reason I'm going after this is on principle. I hope some of you understand.
Revlic, I remind you that your self-gratuitous dribble has trolled me, flamed me, and served no purpose but to emphasise the weakness of your "arguments". Always suspect a man who has to revert to personal attacks and logical fallacies to distract from the incompetence of his own position.
I'm out. Anybody else with questions for me, re-read all of my posts until you actually comprehend what I am saying, as Revlic and others have so obnoxiously demonstrated that they do not. If anybody wants to learn something, PM me with a positive attitude, a good brain and a desire to learn. Flames will not be tolerated, and since I'm not an admin or a moderator, I can only politely ask Revlic to reconsider his current tactics of trolling and flaming. Cheers.
I've been amazed at the help and peace I've found from working on my "issues" and there's really no better use of your time. Commit to the help and be open to change and your life will improve. Really!
Good for you Otto. The nice thing about your symptoms is that they are totally treatable. Many people are scared of therapy because they don't want to feel "broken" but it's just smart for everyone to get some from time to time.
I've been amazed at the help and peace I've found from working on my "issues" and there's really no better use of your time. Commit to the help and be open to change and your life will improve. Really!
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Very good advice and I agree wholeheartedly. Daily stress is a fact of life, and everyone is equipped to deal with it differently. There is absolutely no shame in seeking professional help - just try to find someone highly recommended by your peers.
Things <b>WILL</b> get better Otto. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink-fix.gif" />
I was on SSRIs for a short while and hated it. I found seeing a psychologist really helped, though some psychs are better than others, and the thing is to find one you're comfortable with anyway.
Very good advice and I agree wholeheartedly. Daily stress is a fact of life, and everyone is equipped to deal with it differently. There is absolutely no shame in seeking professional help - just try to find someone highly recommended by your peers.
Things <b>WILL</b> get better Otto. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink-fix.gif" />
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Highly recommended at this point is being rephrased into 'free'. Oh well. Better than nothing.
the relationship i have with my parents are strained,to say the least,so i can understand how difficult that must have been for you.
I can only wish you good luck,and admire you for your actions.
hugs x 1000
-X- Femme <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink-fix.gif" />