Common Sense

GreyFlcnGreyFlcn Join Date: 2006-12-19 Member: 59134Members, Constellation
edited January 2007 in NS General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">You wish someone told you your first week of NS</div>When you were a newb,
What do you wish people told you about NS the first week you were playing?

And in general, what is some common sense about the game
Quick suggestions of what to do, and what not to do.

I'll start:

A) Get off the SpawnPoint (Infantry Portal) as soon as possible,
otherwise you will get killed when the next player spawns.
B) Pressing E rapidly at the Ammo Station (armory) doesn't not fill up your ammo any faster.
C) When making requests to the commander don't describe your location as "Here"
Instead press the Right Mouse key and Request Orders, Ammo, or Health.
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  • FirewaterFirewater Balance Expert Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10690Members, Constellation
    what I wish that someone told, although I did figure out very early, is that being aggressive in the early game will most likely ensure victory of those who are more passive waiting to build up.

    A lot of players feel that a base attack has to be end all be all, but that is really is not the case, especially for aliens.

    On the server I am currently adminning on, I try to encourage the aliens to attack/counter-attack when we get "numbers" (meaning a lot of people on the other team are dead).

    Similar to a fast break in basketball, whenever you can catch the opposing team off-guard, you get that ball down the court as fast as possible to try to get a bucket, and pressure the in bound pass (atleast when I used to play, gotta love that 1-3-1 Zone Full Court Press)

    Same concept with NS. Someone on the alien team should always be looking for numbers, because lots of times alien kills occur in streaks, or clusters. When the aliens get numbers they should try to attack their base and force a beacon, OR collapse on their res nodes (furtherest ones from marine base first) and after that pushing as close as possible to marine start to harass them. This concept also applies to the marines, when the aliens are weak they should attack, even if the entire attack does not end the game. At the very least, it should enable the marines to cap more nodes and tech up, whilst at the sametime surpress the enemies nodes to increase the slippery slope.

    Having situational awareness can make or break a game. Everyone on the team should be looking for an opppurtunity to attack, rather than just sitting back and being passive.
  • Femme_FataleFemme_Fatale Join Date: 2005-06-21 Member: 54310Members, Constellation
    edited January 2007
    right mousebutton,
    i started as alien,and i never knew about right mousebutton :/
    neither did i understand the res,that you needed it to evolve.
    and i scared myself senseless seeing the hive for the first time too.

    and the hivesight,o boy. that so confused me.
    what the heck were them blots everywhere ?
    why did they light up?!like this lsd trip or something.

    that and wondering why the other guy that was onos couldnt wallwalk....


    i can remember the map too,it was 1.04 NS_Bast i think....
    one of the first versions of NS...

    that and someone gave me a welder at one time,and i ran around for an hour with a welder,trying to kill things.... -.- yay that was good fun <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />
  • UnderwhelmedUnderwhelmed DemoDetective #?&#33; Join Date: 2006-09-19 Member: 58026Members, Constellation
    1. "C" is the default key for the minimap.
    2. Welders only repair armor, buildings, and open weldables. I think I spent a good 3 minutes welding a decorative door before giving up.
    3. The technology tree. I don't think the documentation that came with NS were very detailed (At least not when I started). I didn't really have a good grasp of the marine tech tree until some CAL player was kind enough to teach me how to comm on a small game.
  • SariselSarisel .::&#39; ( O ) &#39;;:-. .-.:;&#39; ( O ) &#39;::. Join Date: 2003-07-30 Member: 18557Members, Constellation
    The following:

    cl_cmdrate
    cl_updaterate
    rate
    ex_interp
    fps_max
  • UnderwhelmedUnderwhelmed DemoDetective #?&#33; Join Date: 2006-09-19 Member: 58026Members, Constellation
    Haha, I completely forgot about that. It was taking me an entire LMG clip to kill a skulk before I tweaked my rates.
  • vmsvms Join Date: 2005-06-15 Member: 53927Members
    I wish someone told me to think for myself and not be afraid to ask better players, actually someone did tell me that so i dont really wish for anything.
  • GreyFlcnGreyFlcn Join Date: 2006-12-19 Member: 59134Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1595314:date=Jan 6 2007, 03:42 AM:name=Sarisel)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Sarisel @ Jan 6 2007, 03:42 AM) [snapback]1595314[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    The following:

    cl_cmdrate
    cl_updaterate
    rate
    ex_interp
    fps_max
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    Well the first 4 seem to be all connection rates related.
    I can probably find a good FAQ for that

    As for FPS_Max, how can that be configured correctly?

    _

    Also, I'd imagine cl_sensitivity is an important one ;D

    _

    Hell, for the first day I was playing NS, I left the 640x400 default resolution on ;D
  • pSyk0mAnpSyk0mAn Nerdish by Nature Germany Join Date: 2003-08-07 Member: 19166Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Silver, NS2 Community Developer
    fastswitch, last used weapon and how much faster you'll get without this crappy mwheel weapon change.
  • Splinter_SteveSplinter_Steve Join Date: 2005-03-20 Member: 45881Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1595253:date=Jan 5 2007, 08:36 PM:name=Femme_Fatale)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Femme_Fatale @ Jan 5 2007, 08:36 PM) [snapback]1595253[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    i never knew about right mousebutton :/
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    <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/confused-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="???" border="0" alt="confused-fix.gif" />
  • DC_DarklingDC_Darkling Join Date: 2003-07-10 Member: 18068Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver
    yeh.. tweaking mouse is godlike.
    to "fix" my rate probs I ALWAYS run a very big advanced netgraph on the right of my screen. It helps seeing probs.

    hm.. what to told.. When I started only one gorge (ignore that now ppl) and now its build rts.
    that skulks were ment to defend.. yes, that was nice to know.

    kharaa = still teamwork
    PLS listen to the comm
    when new, stay out the chair
  • MrBananaManMrBananaMan Join Date: 2005-02-26 Member: 42562Members
    edited January 2007
    first thing i would say is that if you care about winning and are a solo player, prepared to be insanely ###### off at this game a lot more than other games.


    besides that i would say hit marines base more, especially to make them beacon, or to just win when no one is there and they have no turrets. i would also say play co maps to get good a certain life form.
  • vmsvms Join Date: 2005-06-15 Member: 53927Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1595368:date=Jan 6 2007, 03:11 AM:name=GreyFlcn)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(GreyFlcn @ Jan 6 2007, 03:11 AM) [snapback]1595368[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->

    Hell, for the first day I was playing NS, I left the 640x400 default resolution on ;D
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    hey im using 640x480, nothing wrong with that
  • tigersmithtigersmith Join Date: 2004-11-11 Member: 32749Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Supporter
    <!--quoteo(post=1595237:date=Jan 5 2007, 08:13 PM:name=GreyFlcn)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(GreyFlcn @ Jan 5 2007, 08:13 PM) [snapback]1595237[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    When you were a newb,
    What do you wish people told you about NS the first week you were playing?

    And in general, what is some common sense about the game
    Quick suggestions of what to do, and what not to do.

    I'll start:

    A) Get off the SpawnPoint (Infantry Portal) as soon as possible,
    otherwise you will get killed when the next player spawns.
    B) Pressing E rapidly at the Ammo Station (armory) doesn't not fill up your ammo any faster.
    C) When making requests to the commander don't describe your location as "Here"
    Instead press the Right Mouse key and Request Orders, Ammo, or Health.
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    Hey thats all the stuff I told you lol
  • JohnieJohnie Join Date: 2006-10-09 Member: 58062Members
    edited January 2007
    First time I played I got a welder and I loved it. I ran around with it, welding weldables(which I loved doing and still do) untill I died (I thought welders were powerfull) and then I'd ask for another one.

    "Welding Torch, please" <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />
  • GreyFlcnGreyFlcn Join Date: 2006-12-19 Member: 59134Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1595580:date=Jan 6 2007, 09:23 PM:name=tigersmith)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(tigersmith @ Jan 6 2007, 09:23 PM) [snapback]1595580[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Hey thats all the stuff I told you lol
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    Heh, the point being,
    there shouldn't need to be a person actively telling them in order for new players to know this stuff.
  • DC_DarklingDC_Darkling Join Date: 2003-07-10 Member: 18068Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver
    But right now there should be. cause the manual is bad, if I remember correct. there is no manual.

    The time I was like :O was back in 1.04 when someone informed me rines had a full map. Seeing as only rines had maps, the radar map was crap, and hivesight needed practise this was a godsgift.
  • Lt_PatchLt_Patch Join Date: 2005-02-07 Member: 40286Members
    Hmm, hard one this.

    Suppose my one was learning about building as a gorge. I spent the first month or so dropping chambers, and running from them, thinking I'd drop them fully complete (I was a child of C&C, select them, when they're done, drop them, and forget them).

    Basically, I spent the first month dropping chambers, and wondering why my offense chambers weren't doing anything...
  • frostymoosefrostymoose Join Date: 2003-09-12 Member: 20799Members
    One thing I constantly have to tell new players is that to build structures you hold e, not tap it or use healspray. Luckily someone told me this in my first game <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" />

    I wish people told me that taking out the turret factory took down all the turrets.
  • bongbong Join Date: 2005-03-06 Member: 43688Members, Constellation
    edited January 2007
    hmm,
    definetly

    cl_cmdrate
    rate
    cl_updaterate


    then

    about pistol being used as a sniper
    gorgerushes
    eventually "flashlight" building
    how to write scripts, (make fading easier)
    lork spikes were fun back then.
  • SLizerSLizer Join Date: 2003-11-07 Member: 22363Members, Constellation
    When I started this game I quite straightly jumped to the chair and learnt lots of things off-hand and using my expieriences from other games. Two things I would had liked to be enforced.

    1#THIS GAME IS ADDICTIVE AND FAR SUPERIOR THAN ANYTHING ELSE dont play if you want to enjoy something else ever again.

    2# reg on the goddam forums ######bahg.
  • GreyFlcnGreyFlcn Join Date: 2006-12-19 Member: 59134Members, Constellation
    4) You don't need 250 ammo in your LMG. 150 LMG, and 30 pistol is ideal.
    5) Rather than reloading, use your pistol when your LMG runs empty
    6) Use your knife for cutting down alien resource nodes. Don't waste your ammo and leave yourself defenseless.
    7) Change your gamma settings, defaults are too hard to see.
    8) Land Mines and Grenades can be used for self point defense.
    Standing ontop of a mine, and getting rushed will outright kill most skulks
    Tossing a handgrenade straight down will damage yourself a whole 10 points, and outright kill multiple skulks if you get rushed.
    9) If a guy is spamming a welder in your face, and jumping, he probably wants you to repair him
    (Notify him if you do not have your own welder, and he can drop his. Usually it's a good idea to hand it back afterwards by pressing 4 then G)
    10) Best low tech way to kill an alien offense chamber is to dump two clips of LMG (and leave your pistol for either self defense, or finishing the job)
    Lean out so that you have a shot onto the side of the OC, but such that it can't shoot you back.
    11) When you get handed land mines, place them practically ontop of base structures. Don't place them at doorways instead.
    12) Landmines can be used as steps to climb up to vents
    13) If you are getting attacked from a vent, press 5, and lob a grenade up into the vent.


    _


    What else are the do's and dont's that a newbie should know?
  • EmanonEmanon Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16254Members, Constellation
    You truely dont know anything about NS unless you play/have played it competitively.
  • GreyFlcnGreyFlcn Join Date: 2006-12-19 Member: 59134Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1596776:date=Jan 9 2007, 10:03 PM:name=Emanon)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Emanon @ Jan 9 2007, 10:03 PM) [snapback]1596776[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    You truely dont know anything about NS unless you play/have played it competitively.
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    And thats supposed to help people, how?

    +1 For elitist snobbery.
  • EmanonEmanon Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16254Members, Constellation
    edited January 2007
    Way to take my comment as an attack, you're not that special.

    It was advice, to join competitive play so that you can learn to play the game. Learn from those who know every (almost) aspect of the game.

    Which is something I suggest you do.....Regretfully I've read alot of your posts.
  • GreyFlcnGreyFlcn Join Date: 2006-12-19 Member: 59134Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1596968:date=Jan 10 2007, 05:45 AM:name=Emanon)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Emanon @ Jan 10 2007, 05:45 AM) [snapback]1596968[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Way to take my comment as an attack, you're not that special.
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    Hardly, I try to avoid ad hominem.
    Just saying that your comment added nothing positive to the thread.
  • MrBananaManMrBananaMan Join Date: 2005-02-26 Member: 42562Members
    edited January 2007
    get owned emanon



    but knowing you are a sensitive competetive kind of guy, i will add this: i love you.
  • AgulfAgulf Join Date: 2004-02-26 Member: 26914Members
    Wish that someone had told me that the Onos could climb ladders.
    Man... I felt so ubar getting up the ladder in marine start on ns_lost when I had an Onos chasing me...
    Only to find out that thing can get up there and eat me <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" />
  • LofungLofung Join Date: 2004-08-21 Member: 30757Members
    common sense is something far too difficult for nubs today
  • DC_DarklingDC_Darkling Join Date: 2003-07-10 Member: 18068Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver
    something I remembered when I posted in the oldbie topic. (someone said it)

    But it would have been swell if they said sieges were no big guns targeting players.
  • puzlpuzl The Old Firm Join Date: 2003-02-26 Member: 14029Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    edited January 2007
    Milosis, Emanon, MrBananaMan and GreyFlcn.

    You guys need to take your petty snipes at each other somewhere else. If you continue to turn every topic into passive aggressive confrontations then we will force you to take them elsewhere.
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