Blog update - Check-in previews

MaxMax Technical Director, Unknown Worlds Entertainment Join Date: 2002-03-15 Member: 318Super Administrators, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, Constellation, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts, Future Perfect Developer
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  • MouseMouse The Lighter Side of Pessimism Join Date: 2002-03-02 Member: 263Members, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
    Cool
    Does it post an exact .jpg copy of the .vtf or a smaller thumbnail?
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  • KungFuDiscoMonkeyKungFuDiscoMonkey Creator of ns_altair 日本福岡県 Join Date: 2003-03-15 Member: 14555Members, NS1 Playtester, Reinforced - Onos
    So when can we submit to the NS2 commit mailing lists? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />

    Neat solution to commit emails.
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  • antyanty Join Date: 2003-02-05 Member: 13143Members
    Thanks for the insight, and a very useful addition. I will think about this email-technique in the future, right now we all just update from time to time <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" />
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  • RokiyoRokiyo A.K.A. .::FeX::. Revenge Join Date: 2002-10-10 Member: 1471Members, Constellation
    Holy crap that's cool... Hadn't thought of using subversion in that way, will keep it in mind.
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  • rsdrsd Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13405Members
    That is a pretty cool idea. I'm currently using Trac for a project, which has a nice timeline feature. We do a lot of small checkins though and the email spam would drive me nuts <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" />
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  • J!J! NS2 Artist Join Date: 2004-11-14 Member: 32788Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester
    <!--quoteo(post=1627095:date=May 16 2007, 10:18 PM:name=rsd)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(rsd @ May 16 2007, 10:18 PM) [snapback]1627095[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    We do a lot of small checkins though and the email spam would drive me nuts <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" />
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    Gmail + labels = win!
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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Join Date: 2003-11-28 Member: 23688
    cool stuff, seems like you guys are well organised.
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  • Zor2Zor2 Join Date: 2005-01-13 Member: 35341Members, Constellation
    First time I heard of all those dev tools but interesting read anyhow. Thanks for the frequest updates!
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  • independentcreatorindependentcreator Join Date: 2007-05-07 Member: 60826Members
    Damn, that seems like a no-brainer, but I don't know if I've ever seen it done. Finally, a way to make the art checkin messages more useful than "changed".
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  • aeroripperaeroripper Join Date: 2005-02-25 Member: 42471NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    Enjoying the frequent updates <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/marine.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::marine::" border="0" alt="marine.gif" />.
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  • WyzcrakWyzcrak Pot Pie Aficionado Join Date: 2002-12-04 Member: 10447Forum Moderators, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    <!--quoteo(post=1627267:date=May 16 2007, 10:43 PM:name=aeroripper)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(aeroripper @ May 16 2007, 10:43 PM) [snapback]1627267[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Enjoying the frequent updates <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/marine.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::marine::" border="0" alt="marine.gif" />.
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    Agreed. Many thanks.
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  • DoloresHazeDoloresHaze Join Date: 2006-11-04 Member: 58342Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    yeah, system version control thingies are very helpfull while developing large projects. thx for keeping us posted.
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  • MouseMouse The Lighter Side of Pessimism Join Date: 2002-03-02 Member: 263Members, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
    Something that just occurred to me: Do you/are you planning to have a similar feature for models, audio or maps? Hmm, though implementing it for models and maps might be a bit difficult.
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  • the_x5the_x5 the Xzianthian Join Date: 2004-03-02 Member: 27041Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1627217:date=May 16 2007, 07:04 PM:name=Zor2)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Zor2 @ May 16 2007, 07:04 PM) [snapback]1627217[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->First time I heard of all those dev tools but interesting read anyhow. Thanks for the frequest updates!
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    Meh I've heard of most of them but never thought they could be combined into a well organized system like that. Was that everybody's idea to come up with that or just a genius on your team?

    <!--quoteo(post=1627278:date=May 17 2007, 12:03 AM:name=Wyzcrak)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Wyzcrak @ May 17 2007, 12:03 AM) [snapback]1627278[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=1627267:date=May 16 2007, 11:43 PM:name=aeroripper)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(aeroripper @ May 16 2007, 11:43 PM) [snapback]1627267[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Enjoying the frequent updates <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/marine.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::marine::" border="0" alt="marine.gif" />.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Agreed. Many thanks.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Seconded. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />
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  • kababkabab Join Date: 2003-12-15 Member: 24384Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1627311:date=May 17 2007, 03:32 AM:name=Mouse)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mouse @ May 17 2007, 03:32 AM) [snapback]1627311[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Something that just occurred to me: Do you/are you planning to have a similar feature for models, audio or maps? Hmm, though implementing it for models and maps might be a bit difficult.
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    Generally unless you use these systems for everything you won't get that much benefit...

    Its very common for game Dev companies to put version control on everything from models,textures,sound,code etc...
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  • MouseMouse The Lighter Side of Pessimism Join Date: 2002-03-02 Member: 263Members, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
    Yeah I know. I was referring to having a preview of the asset attached to the email.
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  • TrilagTrilag Join Date: 2003-10-31 Member: 22156Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Our revision control system (Subverison) setup so that every time someone<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->small typo (<b>Subversion</b>)

    Now you could also send a second image highlighting the changes since the previous version...
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  • glimmermanglimmerman Join Date: 2004-04-29 Member: 28300Members, Constellation
    edited May 2007
    <!--quoteo(post=1627313:date=May 17 2007, 04:35 PM:name=the_x5)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(the_x5 @ May 17 2007, 04:35 PM) [snapback]1627313[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Seconded. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />
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    Thirded. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />

    Pretty neat idea.
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  • BigDBigD [OldF] Join Date: 2002-10-25 Member: 1596Members
    Neat idea. Simple and effective.
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  • KhaimKhaim Join Date: 2002-06-28 Member: 841Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    Nifty idea with the Tex snapshot posting, we're using an SVN as well for Intelligent Design, but obviously not with leet texture snapshottery. : P Ya'll continue to impress, keep up the good work. : )
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  • MaianMaian Join Date: 2003-02-27 Member: 14069Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Gold
    That is pretty nifty. Tho the projects I work on tend not to have any images or models...
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  • JazzXJazzX cl_labelmaps ∞ Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9285Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester
    <!--quoteo(post=1627095:date=May 16 2007, 08:48 AM:name=rsd)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(rsd @ May 16 2007, 08:48 AM) [snapback]1627095[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> That is a pretty cool idea. I'm currently using Trac for a project, which has a nice timeline feature. We do a lot of small checkins though and the email spam would drive me nuts <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" /> <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Before the first forum switch I used to receive e-mails for all Forum Report action as well as any change in the Bug Tracking System. As J! mentioned you ultimately end up creating filters on your e-mail to pre-segregate and tag everything for you. That way its just matter of running through all of the new items when you get an opportunity.
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  • ReeseReese Join Date: 2003-05-08 Member: 16143Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1627311:date=May 17 2007, 03:32 AM:name=Mouse)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mouse @ May 17 2007, 03:32 AM) [snapback]1627311[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Something that just occurred to me: Do you/are you planning to have a similar feature for models, audio or maps? Hmm, though implementing it for models and maps might be a bit difficult.
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    You could always store a jpg with the same name as the map/model and have the subversion script see if both are updated in the same commit and include the jpg(s) in the email. Seems a bit clumsier, but I don't really know how else you could get there in a more automated way.
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  • SolitarioSolitario Join Date: 2006-10-29 Member: 58097Members
    Damn, I love this blog!!! Keep updating it <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" /> !!!
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  • NEX9NEX9 Join Date: 2005-03-08 Member: 44299Members
    nice work unknownworlds nice work
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  • ChocolateChocolate The Team Mascot Join Date: 2006-10-31 Member: 58123Members
    Yay for many updates! Keep them updates coming <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/marine.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::marine::" border="0" alt="marine.gif" />

    Sometimes the smallest things are overlooked but can make the biggest difference, as is with this <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />.
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  • rsdrsd Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13405Members
    edited May 2007
    <!--quoteo(post=1627633:date=May 19 2007, 01:10 AM:name=JazzX)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(JazzX @ May 19 2007, 01:10 AM) [snapback]1627633[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Before the first forum switch I used to receive e-mails for all Forum Report action as well as any change in the Bug Tracking System. As J! mentioned you ultimately end up creating filters on your e-mail to pre-segregate and tag everything for you. That way its just matter of running through all of the new items when you get an opportunity.
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    True, and it's a 30 second job. I guess for me if I'm clicking a label in my email inbox I might as well be navigating to a trac timeline page. Still, considering that's the system the devs are using, the art preview is a really cool addition. It's always interesting to see the way other devs do things.

    Thinking about it, another advantage of the email system is the ability to kick off a conversation about a checkin by simply forwarding the checkin mail to someone and adding questions/comments. That could be really useful.
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  • AnnihilatorzaAnnihilatorza Join Date: 2007-01-07 Member: 59490Members
    <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" />

    Great idea makes life alot eaiser <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" />


    Just a question do you have a rough idea of when the NS2TR is going to be released, because some of us realy want scratch that itch of playing with all of NS2 new toys and making some of our own and breaking them and fixing them again.
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  • BMWcrazyBMWcrazy Join Date: 2005-01-13 Member: 35315Members
    These updates makes me keep coming back to the site for more!
    I hope these new tweaks will help ease the frustrations in development.
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