Protect Your Gorges!
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<div class="IPBDescription">Chubsy ubsy is defenseless!</div> I just QUIT a game in frustration.
Map: NS_Nothing
Side: Kharaa
Species: Gorge
Location: Cargo Bay Hive (Unbuilt)
Ok we start off in the powersilo, but instead of joining the mad rush to go attack the marine spawn I quickly race off towards the Cargo Bay hive. I like this hive mainly for a couple of reasons
1.) 2 easily blockable entrances early game. The vent can only be accessed by player stacking or jetpacks
2.) THREEEEEEEEEE resource towers
3.) If you own this hive you have a fairly secure position (Relatively)
So I got one resource tower up, then another, then the last so then it was time to build up some defenses. Around the corner comes Joe Marine with his @%^%$&^*^ LMG and proceeds to blow me off the face of the earth. So none to happy about that, I scream for people to head towards Cargo Bay hive to protect it. Wow, one single skulk runs and gets killed. I respawn hurry back kill that little SOB of a marine and re-evolve to a gorge to proceed with setting up defense. But of course its too late, the marines rush in kill all my wonderful turrets I scream something along the lines of "CAN'T YOU **obscenity** PROTECT YOUR GORGES OR YOUR STRUCTURES?!?"
Seriously what is wrong with people, if you SEE someone getting attacked or see a large number of structures getting killed at once DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!! The gorge is weak as all hell! He can't protect himself! Help the hive, by protecting your gorges! IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK? He is the bestower of the hives which in turn give you access to your precious Fades and Onos'!!! It's like the little fat kid in school who can't protect himself waiting for some cool kid to come stop his head getting flushed down the toilet every 5 minutes. You never know when that fat kid may bestow upon you LEGENDARY EVOLVING POWERS OF <b>1337</b> TO CRUSH ALL THE PUNY HUMANS INTO EXISTENCE!!!!!!
Weee I'm having <i>SO</i> much fun with NS!
Map: NS_Nothing
Side: Kharaa
Species: Gorge
Location: Cargo Bay Hive (Unbuilt)
Ok we start off in the powersilo, but instead of joining the mad rush to go attack the marine spawn I quickly race off towards the Cargo Bay hive. I like this hive mainly for a couple of reasons
1.) 2 easily blockable entrances early game. The vent can only be accessed by player stacking or jetpacks
2.) THREEEEEEEEEE resource towers
3.) If you own this hive you have a fairly secure position (Relatively)
So I got one resource tower up, then another, then the last so then it was time to build up some defenses. Around the corner comes Joe Marine with his @%^%$&^*^ LMG and proceeds to blow me off the face of the earth. So none to happy about that, I scream for people to head towards Cargo Bay hive to protect it. Wow, one single skulk runs and gets killed. I respawn hurry back kill that little SOB of a marine and re-evolve to a gorge to proceed with setting up defense. But of course its too late, the marines rush in kill all my wonderful turrets I scream something along the lines of "CAN'T YOU **obscenity** PROTECT YOUR GORGES OR YOUR STRUCTURES?!?"
Seriously what is wrong with people, if you SEE someone getting attacked or see a large number of structures getting killed at once DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!! The gorge is weak as all hell! He can't protect himself! Help the hive, by protecting your gorges! IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK? He is the bestower of the hives which in turn give you access to your precious Fades and Onos'!!! It's like the little fat kid in school who can't protect himself waiting for some cool kid to come stop his head getting flushed down the toilet every 5 minutes. You never know when that fat kid may bestow upon you LEGENDARY EVOLVING POWERS OF <b>1337</b> TO CRUSH ALL THE PUNY HUMANS INTO EXISTENCE!!!!!!
Weee I'm having <i>SO</i> much fun with NS!
Comments
I agree 100%
It is very sad when a gorg dies. I'm usually a gorg, and I get VERY sad when I die. Almost as sad as when a solo marine gets to knife one of my precious resource towers, while I am crying and screaming at the confused skulks to protect it.
Seriously though.. Skulks? If you see a Gorge going ANYWHERE unattended, give him an escort. Until you get to two-hive, they can't defend themselves. It cost your team 13RP to *make* him a Gorge, and if he dies then that RP is wasted. Don't forget.. the Gorges are the ones who put up those nice Defensive Chambers to heal you when you're hurt. The Gorges are the ones who build hives, allowing you to go Fade. Gorges are the ones who build movement chambers, allowing you to get to Hives *fast* and grant you Adrenaline. Gorges are the ones who build Sensory, so you can cloak in the middle of a hall, wait for a Marine to bump into you, look confused, then lose it when you de-cloak by slashing him down where he stands.
Though SOME Gorges do deserve to die.. mostly the ones who go Gorge to get the RP to go Lerk or (later in the game) Fade. Or those who won't listen when people are telling them to revert to Skulk, as only one or two Gorges are needed... half the team as Gorge kills their ability to build.
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No really, if you can't figure out that you build a resource noozle, then a o tower, then another and then a d chamber.. well let just say you deserve to die.
And yes I usually play gorg <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> and lets face it they're not gonna help you!, so help yourself learn how to use the spit gun <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
Remember a gorge isn't an attack class and I only got enough points for 3 towers due to 'donations'. So I would have been screwed either way.
At two-hive, Gorge becomes a GREAT attack class for those with the skill to web the heck out of a group of Marines (Adrenaline is your FRIEND) then Healing Spray them to death. Does more damage than Spit at a lower Stamina cost, if I remember correctly. With a wider damage-field than a knife. So just web-web-web-web-spray-spray-web-web-web-web... keep it up, and you'll get a quad-kill with HS. Which is FUNNY to see pop up. Even more effective with a patient Skulk teamed up with you. Web them like crazy, and let the Skulk buzzsaw through 'em while you keep webbing. Can eventually (with enough webs) 'sew' a Marine down in place for a good long while. VERY fun to cocoon half the team, when their teammates come in to try and help them. Doesn't kill them so no respawn, opening up the Marine base to an easier attack. Have held four Marines in place indefinitely. Probably could have done more if all of them were in HA. LOTS of fun.
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To bad it does not <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> (At least last time I checked 1.03)
And yes I love the webbing the HA/HMG, I have a screeny somewhere of three HA I had webbed for nearly a full minute Swearing in the chat channel because of wittle me holding them there
First, you make no mention of asking for help BEFORE you needed it. Try talking to your team, arrange for cover in advance, before people get busy doing something they may not be willing to break away from. Or before they get too busy to notice your cries for help. Don't assume people will follow you around helping you, what, are they supposed to read your mind? Your average skulk is doing good to rush, a lot of them can't find the marine base, let alone a hive location - even with hive sight.
Second, you built 3?!? RTs and no defenses? Baka. After the first tower went up, it was time to make an off chamber. You _know a marine was due to show up to scout the hive. If you didn't know it, then learn it. Gorge + Off chamber can take out the average LMG marine. Dodge a lot, keep the off chamber between you and the marine, healspray healspray healspray. If you had time to add in a def chamber, then you'd have had no trouble.
Try working with your team, if you expect them to work with you. First step, communication.
What a utter waste of about 70 rps. 2 evolutions to gorge, couple of offensive chambers and a resource tower wasted because the skulks won't protect the gorges early on.
What on earth are you talking about??
Easily? With level one carapace and nothing else? Come on! In a 1 on 1 showdown between a marine with lmg and a gorge with level 1 carapace (and one hive), I don't know about you, but I'm going to put my money on the marine; every time.
Jump alot, use the spit gun. and jump backwars and side to side when you jump. you can survive, he can not! Viva la resistance!
Yesterday on eclipse almost all the skulks on my team were sitting around maintenance while the gorges built up a hive there. The gorges had plenty of defenses up yet the skulks kept sitting around even while the marines moved into eclipse.
Offense is stronger than defense!
I usually end up wit 30 kills(on a long enough game)
And then you even want skulks to sit there and protect you! omg lol. yeah do that and let the marines expand to capture 20 resource nodes while your still saving for the hive. they'll have HMG and HA before you can go fade. pls guys if you ever find this guy in a game just let him die don't waste your time or effort.
For the uninitiated: Gorges get a greater share of the resources taken in; however, that share is then devided among the active gorges. So more than 1 gorge before a second hive is taken is a massive drain on resources. One gorge is sufficient until the second hive is started.
No, I am telling you what happened. I got 2 donations from people on my team, I don't condone the act of donating to your gorges. It feels extremely cheap. But because of those donations I put up 3 towers instead of the one.
The outcome would have been the same as well, I would have had 1 resource tower and at a quick estimate 1 offense tower. The marine also came around the backway where I wasn't planning to build OC's initially so I was screwed in any situation. This was like 2 minutes into the game mind you, so he was rushing out scouting/ramboing.
After that I DID call for support, but noone came.
Lt.Warhound: urasai baka-yaro.
And then you even want skulks to sit there and protect you! omg lol. yeah do that and let the marines expand to capture 20 resource nodes while your still saving for the hive. they'll have HMG and HA before you can go fade. pls guys if you ever find this guy in a game just let him die don't waste your time or effort.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I disagree. If the skulks do thier job that gorge that you think is doing nothing can build the hive w/o distraction from the enemy. 7 times outta 10 if I rush to a hive location and get it going my team wins. More times than I can count my team has won due to the fact that I got a hive and resources up fast and/or locked down said hive. Mebbe Im just better than the other gorges that you have ran into, mebbe its just luck, but I can tell you with expierence that me rushing to a hive and getting it going is a great step towards victory.
The key is ask for help BEFORE you need it.
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