Is this considered to be botting?

ArmageddonArmageddon Join Date: 2005-01-07 Member: 33055Members
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This kid is brilliant <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/nerd-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::nerdy::" border="0" alt="nerd-fix.gif" />

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhY0KPAfqhQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhY0KPAfqhQ</a>
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  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    Answer to the topic is, yes.
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  • XythXyth Avatar Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22312Members
    Ofcourse it's botting, he's not playing.

    He's brilliant? Come now man, he built a k'nex thing that pushed a button repeatedly, maybe your definition of "brilliant" is a bit too lax.

    For god-sakes somebody get this kid a copy of visual basic or something, you could write a program to emulate the key-press, and it wouldn't take more then maybe 45 seconds. How long did he spend on this? An hour? 2? 3?
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  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    But this bot isn't detectable; and it's a god damn iPod dock. It's hilarious.
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  • ZaggyZaggy NullPointerException The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-12-10 Member: 24214Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Onos, Subnautica Playtester
    Keep.The.Camera.Still.Please. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/asrifle.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::asrifle::" border="0" alt="asrifle.gif" />
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  • DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18951Members
    he's got style <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />

    and fyi, building a robot out of k'nex is 10 times more fun than actually playing Maple Story, which in turn is 10 times more fun than programming macros in visual basic. by my count, that makes this kid 100 times cooler than Xyth. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
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  • X_StickmanX_Stickman Not good enough for a custom title. Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15533Members, Constellation
    This would be really cool if it weren't Maple Story.

    Seriously, Maple Story? It's barely one step above Habbo Hotel, and that's only because you can't kill stuff in Habbo Hotel. At least when you see a stupid green blob with a moronic grin on its face in Maple Story, you can shove a flaming arrow between its eyes. But that's its only good point.
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  • FaskaliaFaskalia Wechsellichtzeichenanlage Join Date: 2004-09-12 Member: 31651Members, Constellation
    Well, thats one step closer to true AI opponents.

    You know, robot is not wired with the system,but instead uses the same periphery as a human player.

    Read: Robot with camera to observer monitor and then moves the mouse/presses the keyboard, instead of stupid software that always knows where you are and can kill you in a split second if setup correctly.
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  • schkorpioschkorpio I can mspaint Join Date: 2003-05-23 Member: 16635Members
    hehe not bad at all for a kid, but all it does is press ctrl - now if you could have it so it can read data from the game and then the bot reacts intellegently, thats impressive <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />
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  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    Reminds me of some one that built a physical bot to level skills in morrowind. I think it cast a spell X times, then rested, then chose the proper attribute ups, then repeated <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    Thank goodness we have machines now to play the games for us. It was getting tedious!
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  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1666584:date=Jan 7 2008, 05:54 AM:name=Liku)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Liku @ Jan 7 2008, 05:54 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1666584"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->But this bot isn't detectable; and it's a god damn iPod dock. It's hilarious.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    He hit's the same key for 10 hours+ every 17seconds. That's easily detectable.
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  • ArmageddonArmageddon Join Date: 2005-01-07 Member: 33055Members
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    <!--quoteo(post=1666613:date=Jan 7 2008, 08:55 AM:name=TychoCelchuuu)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TychoCelchuuu @ Jan 7 2008, 08:55 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1666613"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Thank goodness we have machines now to play the games for us. It was getting tedious!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    haha

    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->For god-sakes somebody get this kid a copy of visual basic or something, you could write a program to emulate the key-press, and it wouldn't take more then maybe 45 seconds.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    His lil' invention gets around Gameguard quite nicely. Plus, he won't have to painstakingly upgrade any software everytime they patch the bots over! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/nerd-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::nerdy::" border="0" alt="nerd-fix.gif" />


    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->He hit's the same key for 10 hours+ every 17seconds. That's easily detectable.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    This game is mostly pressing 1 or 2 buttons to attack so..
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  • XythXyth Avatar Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22312Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1666639:date=Jan 7 2008, 02:00 PM:name=Armageddon)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Armageddon @ Jan 7 2008, 02:00 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1666639"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->This game is mostly pressing 1 or 2 buttons to attack so..<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    And it presses them at the same rate all the time, thus it's detectable.

    Ill make this simple:
    He built a k'nex ro<b>bot</b> that pushes a button to play the game for him.
    He built a bot that plays the game for him.


    I like how in the video he says "This is legit because I made it instead of just downloading software to do it" because, you know, software just programs itself!
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  • BlackMageBlackMage [citation needed] Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17474Members, Constellation
    it *is* a k'nex contraption so it probably has enough variance to avoid some detection systems....
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  • Crono5Crono5 Join Date: 2003-07-22 Member: 18357Members
    I like it. He used what he had and already knew to solve his problem. It's a unique solution, too.

    Also, what Black_Mage said.
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  • AbraAbra Would you kindly Join Date: 2003-08-17 Member: 19870Members
    Comeon, the kid build a toy that presses a button, give him a medal!

    It's easy to hear who didn't make it past duplo.

    Also, he plays maple story - clearly that is where he went wrong.
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  • DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18951Members
    it's funny that we were into Maple Story as a community once. Thankfully, we all got bored (as far as I know)...
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  • schkorpioschkorpio I can mspaint Join Date: 2003-05-23 Member: 16635Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1666613:date=Jan 7 2008, 11:55 PM:name=TychoCelchuuu)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TychoCelchuuu @ Jan 7 2008, 11:55 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1666613"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Thank goodness we have machines now to play the games for us. It was getting tedious!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    thats mmo's for ya <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
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  • X_StickmanX_Stickman Not good enough for a custom title. Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15533Members, Constellation
    There are hacks in Maple Story that make all of the enemies in the screen (level) fly to one spot and stick there, so you can safely hit them while you're hidden inside a wall. And people used to spend hours doing that.

    I sincerely doubt that this "bot" will be detected.


    Also, it reminds me (for some reason) of a macro I set up in SW:G for my dancer... just turn it on and he danced properly and rested etc... I used to leave it on while I slept or whatever.
    I guess it reminds me of that because they were both equally pointless and sad.
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  • MonkfishMonkfish Sonic-boom-inducing buttcheeks of terrifying speed&#33; Join Date: 2003-06-03 Member: 16972Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1666687:date=Jan 7 2008, 11:31 PM:name=X_Stickman)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(X_Stickman @ Jan 7 2008, 11:31 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1666687"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->There are hacks in Maple Story that make all of the enemies in the screen (level) fly to one spot and stick there, so you can safely hit them while you're hidden inside a wall. And people used to spend hours doing that.

    I sincerely doubt that this "bot" will be detected.
    Also, it reminds me (for some reason) of a macro I set up in SW:G for my dancer... just turn it on and he danced properly and rested etc... I used to leave it on while I slept or whatever.
    I guess it reminds me of that because they were both equally pointless and sad.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Did you get lots of munies from passers by?
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  • remiremi remedy [blu.knight] Join Date: 2003-11-18 Member: 23112Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester
    Seriously this isn't even a good robot. I don't even know if I would call it a robot.

    I could have achieved the same thing with one motor and some mechanics to convert the spinning to up down motion.

    Same result.
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  • X_StickmanX_Stickman Not good enough for a custom title. Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15533Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1666688:date=Jan 7 2008, 11:47 PM:name=Sonic)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Sonic @ Jan 7 2008, 11:47 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1666688"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Did you get lots of munies from passers by?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Did you ever play SW:G? Male entertainer characters of any sort never got tips from anyone. It was, literally, the female twi-lek dancers who got all the tips from the folk in the cantina.

    I had the dancer skill 'cos my characters name was "Dance Commando" and I wanted to dance on corpses, that's it.
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  • GwahirGwahir Join Date: 2002-04-24 Member: 513Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-X_stickman+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(X_stickman)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I had the dancer skill 'cos my characters name was "Dance Commando" and I wanted to dance on corpses, that's it.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I don't usually do this... but... sigged
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  • locallyunscenelocallyunscene Feeder of Trolls Join Date: 2002-12-25 Member: 11528Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1666656:date=Jan 7 2008, 02:42 PM:name=Abra)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Abra @ Jan 7 2008, 02:42 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1666656"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Also, he plays maple story - clearly that is where he went wrong.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    QFT
    <!--quoteo(post=1666687:date=Jan 7 2008, 06:31 PM:name=X_Stickman)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(X_Stickman @ Jan 7 2008, 06:31 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1666687"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Also, it reminds me (for some reason) of a macro I set up in SW:G for my dancer... just turn it on and <b>he</b> danced properly and rested etc... I used to leave it on while I slept or whatever.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/confused-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="???" border="0" alt="confused-fix.gif" />
    <!--quoteo(post=1666696:date=Jan 7 2008, 07:52 PM:name=X_Stickman)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(X_Stickman @ Jan 7 2008, 07:52 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1666696"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I had the dancer skill 'cos my characters name was "Dance Commando" and I wanted to dance on corpses, that's it.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Proceed.
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