Haven't played in years so.....
cyberkap
Join Date: 2007-10-12 Member: 62619Members
Join Date: 2007-10-12 Member: 62619Members
<div class="IPBDescription">....what are some really good servers?</div>Hey. I haven't played this game in over two years. I used to play on NSArmslab a lot under the name jl_qui_gon_jinn (now adays that name sounds stupid to me.) What are some good servers to play on, including communities that are comparable to the old NSArmslab? Ah, those were the days.
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find the lowest ping with at least 5 or more players
enjoy and thank me later
They are all infested with bs_1 and xmenu, or custom maps, or impossible admins :/
yo-clan is the closest thing to a real public server.
G4B2S
BAD CLAN
JIGGLYPUFF's
and other Autralian servers
plus the australian scene has mainly only vetrans left, and there pugging each night.
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So.. you're a masochist. How about we get together tonight?
209.242.60.187:27015
There are no good servers left, they all ban for skill.
Correction: They all ban for being Makaveli.*
personally I've been spending a lot of time at G4, though you <i>will</i> be banned if you're any good at the game, and a result the server is restricted to a playerbase of generally low skill, so you're not going to get the NSA feel. You're not going to get the NSA feel anywhere anymore.
regardless, there are some truly great, balanced battles on those servers, replete with cooperative teamplay. I've been on a big NS binge lately and those servers are all that's left to support it.
Which consists of terrible players (such as myself) carrying teams of players several leagues more terrible and aliens losing due to one/two man ANSL stacking teams at all times.
Serge, take a hint
um thats Makaveli
edit: nevermind, banned today
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watch out for c4k3. he'll find some bull###### excuse to ban you if you top the scoreboard more than once.
You know what... I really love this game. I really love this community. And I wish that Flayra would hurry up and finish NS2. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" />
My name is Renegade. I'm overseeing the development and instrumental architecture of nsarmslab.com in entirety.
Let me start off by saying - Holy crap. What the heck has happened to us that allowed us to lose so many good servers and players?
What caused the issue of NS degredation? Why are there so many F'n bot servers and so many empty servers? Is the game really that bad?
If your like me - You have a passion for the game. You like getting online and helping out new players, but yet keep your elite skilled playing edge for competitve play.
You like ordering a pizza - Having your cold drink beside you, relaxed in your ass conformed computer chair yelling at your teammates to go to the F'n waypoint.
Nowadays - we have this "Combat" which don't get me wrong is great fun but it's not what NS was designed for. NS is always going to be about Classic in my books.
Combat is a good server filler but should be used as a "waiting for players" type of pre-game show so to speak.
BTW - before I go on. I want you kiddies out there to realize that people out there such as myself - Leaders, Managers, People that pay the bills around here work really hard to ensure that our fellow gamers can play to have fun. So have some respect to those around you that devote their time, money, resources so that YOU CAN HAVE MORE FUN - before you slander fellow workers.
------- Now - Read On ----
NSArmslab was the equity for classic, competitive bs_0 - pure vet - same friends - playing daily type of community. A server that would allow new players a chance to prove their worth alongside really good players who had a unique sense of gameplay for competitive non tournament type matches.
NSArmslab had some amazing accomplishments. GorgeKarting, Captain's Night, a CMS engine, ... some really nice stuff that obviously took a heap of time to perfect.
And then what happened? A server with so much under their belt - - Disappeared - - Gone without notice - adding NSA to the continual community slope to oblivion.
I am a highly motivated, talented, working professional that loves to tell it like it is as I see things not only from a business standpoint but from someone that engineers better practices in real life. When I tell you that this community is falling - You should listen. Unless you don't care - in which case your just trolling around the forums wasting precious bandwidth.
I am hoping that you non kiddies out there with an IQ greater than 13 will understand what exactly I am trying to communicate to the community. Read with inspiration and really think on this one.
Here's the facts.
- The Natural Selection Community is on a fast slide to oblivion. (Until the release of NS2)
- The competitive edge of players is as dull as a rock.
- The new players we see are quickly scared off or demoralized.
- The ANSL / CAL / League play in general has been obliterated despite hard efforts by hawthorne and others..
- The servers we have now are running blinged up combat mode, or have Bot's adminning the servers.
We do still have really good servers out there. Regardless of Administrators, Plugins, etc., etc. etc. They have made a commitment to fellow gamers to be in that server list.
Kudos to ....
RenegadeServer.
ReadyRoom
Necrophix.
G4B2S.
3-PG.
187Combat
<BAD>
Next time your in your favorite server - Drop your leaders a thanks. They are the bread and butter of NS.
The current NS community as I have said is a great community. We have potential to grow again - But it has to be done right this time.
Flayra developed an ingenious game. I can't fathom<sp> the work that he must have spent developing a "FREE" mod for us to indulge. Kudos to you if you read this. I hope that we can talk later aswell.
Now - Down to business.
First - Let us share with you our vision for NSA. We're not going to share all of it as it's not quite finished (needs community input). But I'll share enough with you now in order that we as a community can stop diminishing and revert back to growing on our common interest (Natural Selection) and if you like this idea - it miiiight just work. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
When I say "our" vision. Note that I have a team of people that are dedicating valuable resources to ensure the success of the new NSA. Half the people involved are not gamers, however they are artistic thinkers with intuition and a professional skill level that as I say - will ensure the success of this community. We did not think this plan up overnight.
Here's part of "Our Vision" which I hope you will be a part of.
NSA is going to be the all in one resource for Natural Selection Players.
NSA is going to be a positive and influencial resource for new players.
NSA is going to be hosting tournaments offering real prizes. No loot bags here kiddies.
NSA is going to be the home for every supportive clan running the game.
NSA is going to have dedicated moderators, administrators, and an idea team.
NSA is going to change on the fly depending on what the community wants to see.
NSA is going to have dedicated tournament servers.
NSA is going to have a ventrilo server hosting all NS players.
NSA is going to have an abundance of new players for existing clans to cherry pick from.
NSArmslab is not recruiting. We are not accepting donations, All we are doing is offering a professional haven for NS players to call home. BS_0
Imagine having one Ventrilo server with private rooms within - containing ALL NS players. ....
Imagine having dedicated mature leadership. Good admins that don't ban you for being "good". And support those new players".
Imagine one admin list spanning across all NS servers - powered by one community supported NS community. mmmmm A community within a community..
We're working on this. If you own a server and you are reading this - take a look at your server... Is it empty? Then talk to me. Let's work together to repopulate NS.
Here's our current Server Status for those interested...
We have a "Combat server" (irony) to accomadate that need. And we also have a "Classic" Server which we invite vets to play in.
We meet up every Friday Night at 10PM PST | 1AM EST in Ventrilo ( ventrilo4.chi.powervs.com Port : 5021 ) www.ventrilo.com
From there - we'll discuss the NS community for the first little while as fellow gamers, and then we'll play.
We will be playing Combat for the next few weeks just till people get settled in - And then we'll get some action in Classic I promise you.
Note that while your in one NSA server - you can type /server in game to jump between fellow NSA servers.
Our website is scheduled to launch shortly (Check the timer at www.nsarmslab.com)
When it does - a few things will happen.
First off - a Tournament. Several copies of Unreal Tournament Three will be given away.
(what kind of tournament are we having? Someone say relay races? Oh - maybe CAL rules 6vs6? Post your ideas in NSArmslab forums.)
(What's that? Someone mentioned in the forums that NSA Admins should make the teams to pair up newbs with vets) ? Hacker Teaming getting annoying? Hrmmm...
***NS-Storm*** is a section on our site that we invite you to post similiar ideas. We'll do what you want us to do. We have the resources.
Secondly - As we intend to have a supportive community looking to enhance their competitive edge - We'll be keeping track of players. Rankings all the way. and Swag!
Third and most important. PRIZES!!
Things to note ...
We are not competing with other multi-game communities.
We only support "Natural Selection".
We are not trying to steal members.
We are not trying to recuit you. (Although we do encourage those out there to wear the [NSA] tag.
Just know that we are working on re-building the old days. A fun server whereas we will NOT ban you for being an ace. But we will question your bad days...
We'll be having a pre-pre non prized tournament on Friday - a chance to talk about what we can do together as a community and a chance for me to hear what you guys want.
So if you play NS. Whether your in a clan or not. Whether your a new player or experienced Vet. We ask you to support the NS community.
Why NSA? We know what we are doing. We work hard for the game we believe in. If you want the fun put back into NS ... I'll see you on Friday 10PM Sharp in ventrilo at ventrilo4.chi.powervs.com Port 5021.
Long Live The NSMOD!
<img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/skulk.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::skulk::" border="0" alt="skulk.gif" /> Renegade <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tiny.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::onos::" border="0" alt="tiny.gif" />
P.S. I have been asked by old members etc if they can wear the [NSA] tag. The answer is definately. And if your in a clan [XX|NSA]
And also - please post this thread around the block.. <!--fonto:Microsoft Sans Serif--><span style="font-family:Microsoft Sans Serif"><!--/fonto-->http://www.nsarmslab.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=53<!--fontc--></span><!--/fontc-->
#yo-clan
#alphagaming
I was banned for just killing an admin on this server (not perm though)
Well; it probably, has been said on this forum (maybee yours too).
-What people want is a good game (that one is easy).
-But even with a good game; if there is no new things, people start to be bored. And i agree with that.
-Having new map on a more regular basis could do the trick for NS (not siege_crap or co_dumb). Playing the same map over and over is just not fiting the need of anyone.
And FFS clean up the servers!
-BS 1 (plus it's not a good way to learn NS for what is good in NS).
-Admin knowing the job and connected. A lot more cheater / haxorz / abusers are ruining this last piece of the game because of lack of activity from admin. Lately; it's impossible to avoid these guys. They pollute servers because no one ban them anymore...
And if you ask:
-Forcing rates on client.
-Forcing GLsettings (or graphic settings) on client. I doubt that anyone still have a P100 with a riva128.
-No extra Skins (that have extra things...).
-No modified sounds.
Short story: having a basis called trust you can build a community on.
Building this especially for new players who need teaching. If they see a Fade Lord owning the game, they get bored easilly and get suspicious too.
There is a huge work to do on that (Internationaly speaking of course). This can sustain NS for a while buit still; NS has no new maps...
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Easy.
I remember really well when it started to go downhill.
I cant remember the exact version number, but it started with unnecessary balance changes. It got worse each patch and at some point the marines were so easy to play and aliens so hard, that it simply wasnt any fun anymore. You didnt have a chance as alien and as a marine it got boring really fast.
The only time it was challenging was when you had the luck to get some very good teamplay on the alien team (which wasnt the case very often simply because they didnt have a commander, and the devs said it themselves: aliens are more for solo players).
I talked with so many ex-NS players and they all criticized that. They also mentioned that NS was an awesome and inventive game at the very beginning when the games lasted hours. And I have to agree on that. Those epic battles for hours were so awesome... man what would I give to get the game back in that state...
Then they dumbed it down, made things quicker, made aliens weaker, etc. and games lasted only 30 mins or so at most. Sad.
I hope NS2 will be like the first versions of NS again. That would be really awesome.
NS wasnt the only HL mod that suffered from poor balancing changes, by the way. Vampire Slayers was almost the exact same way. Slayers (comparable to the marines) got stronger and easier, while Vampires (comparable to the aliens) got harder and harder to a point where they were just frustrating. And then, just the same way (even worse, since the playerbase was less than NS) the mod died, even though it was so awesome at the beginning.
It's no secret that there's a lot of popular server admins that have the mindset of a militant 8 year old who has the tendency to go, "That's not fair!" whenever you manage to kill them. I normally wouldn't use such a comparison but these admins are doing way more than just banning hackers and people who are really, really good. I've watched more than a few times these very admins do things like ban a commander and his entire team for relocating next to the hive and respawn camp them while taking down the hive. I've seen admins ban people for going onos "too early". Sometimes it's just a lucky knife kill or being eaten for the 5th time in a row that sets off the banhammer.
Right now you're probably saying, "And? Every popular mod has it's ###### servers. Don't go to them!" What makes NS different is there's VERY few good servers but a whole lot of ###### ones. As good servers like Armslab and Nano died off, the bad servers remained. These remaining servers with their admins have effectively killed NS. The NS community is a fraction of what it used to be. Their rampart perma banning has removed a strong majority of the people who liked NS from the game. Sounds a bit crazy? Theres tons of people on these forums that are far from pros but have managed to have themselves banned on most of the servers. I attempted to redownload NS and play again only to find I'm still banned after 2 years on 75% of the servers.
Yeah, it's 'their' server and the admins can run it however they please but I do believe that they still have a responsibility to the community to weed out ######s and hackers. Not just banning people who outsmarted them in a video game. I only hope in NS2 we can see the return of good servers and these ###### ones stay behind where they belong.
I would say that too, if it was a normal deathmatch or other mod with low to moderate playerbase at its peak. But NS is an inventive and rare gamestyle, which had a huge playerbase.
Ask the people who played it. They all want a game like this again, and would still play it, not if it had an new engine, but if it was properly balanced.
Hell, I would still play it (and prolly would have never quit it in the first place) if those things where given.
I mean, look at TFC or CS1.6, they are still played a lot. Not to mention other "outdated" games by other developers. They also had problems with stupid and unnecessary balancing changes, but they were never as huge as in NS.
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Yeah, it's 'their' server and the admins can run it however they please but I do believe that they still have a responsibility to the community to weed out ######s and hackers. Not just banning people who outsmarted them in a video game. I only hope in NS2 we can see the return of good servers and these ###### ones stay behind where they belong.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I agree with you and that's what the new NSA Dev team is correcting. As you've noticed, I'm really trying hard to bring back NSA to the standpoint of 03/04. I am re-loading our site with custom content for those that want it clientside, aswell as working on addressing problems that have been contributed in order to admin, operate, and effectively run a good community, let alone a server. I want to make what we have solidified and enhance the NS community's good players on NSA servers. Let the "bad" servers handle the other's. We are also thinking about locking down a server for vets and respected players to play on. As it stands right now; Every Sunday Night we do have good classic games consisting of good players. Once we get more people into the NSA community. We can have real games going again on a regular basis. And when I say real games, I mean 3-4 hour games. Not 30 minute matches. As commander, I make you work hard for your food. An Alien Slaughter is not a good hunt. Allowing a game to develop is much more interesting. 4 minute shotgun rush - or a constant turn of events. You decide.
If your still an NS player, you've probably seen the [NSA] tag floating around. Those who wear the tag have been identified and respected. Those "Tagged" Players all speak in our NS Ventrilo Server to organize tournaments, scrimmages, and fun playtimes such as the old "Captain's Night" that NSA once held. If your reading this forum thread, then I can assume that you are a respected player. Feel free to tag on [NSA] so long as your commitment to the game is sincere. Help us help our community evolve. NSA is not a clan. It's a community. A community powered "borg" shield grid protecting ourselves from the outside. You know you want to be assimilated into our collective... [ok that was lame, but I hope you got a smile]
If your absolutely pissed off at current servers, or lack of them - . I urge you to get involved in NSA. I know I am pushing a little on this topic, but I can't build a community without a community. So get off your lazy butts and get on our Ventrilo server on Sunday AFternoon. If we can get the players. We will lock it down and play All... Night... Long.... Round after Round. Map after Map. And if you want to play a specific or new map. No problem. Just let me know so I can load it on. (We currently have 243 NS_maps loaded onto our 100 tick server with an active community of 100 members. About 10-15% are commited to NSA on Sunday nights. I hope to see you there this Sunday. And who knows. You might win a prize.
Please come in and share your skill. bs_0 We also have talented people in NSA. People that can code game changes. Perhaps we can re-nounce the old versions. We can make it happen. We just need YOUR involvement as respected community members to make it happen. I'm really happy to read this thread and see the input, but most of it looks like Administrator issues as well as a few game spoilers. NSA has no place for them, but I hope that you can call it your home as I have called it mine. I hope to see you in our ventrilo server, but also please keep the comments and suggestions here coming. It helps me guide NSA during re-development. And of course - the NS-Storm section in our forums is designed for you to give us feedback and ideas to enhance the experience.
Renegade,
www.NSArmslab.com
Professional Respected Community.
P.S. We do have a couple of "kids" that play on our servers, but we respect all players. Keep in mind that you were a kid once too and heck - I've been "Pwned" by eight year olds before. But when it comes to Administration and control - only those mature and with previous administrative experience will be considered. NSA Administrators know that there is zero tolerance for abuse to any user regardless of who or what the situation is. A few of my 40+ Administrators have Ban access shall it be deemed necessary, however abuse is something you will NOT find on our servers.. That is - unless your racist. Then I will personally ban your Steam ID. Zero tolerance for Racism in NSA controlled systems. Nuff said.
Tag up if your interested and we'll see you on Sunday.
With the exception of custom content, picture gallery, Forums, What other features would you like to see on the NSA homepage?
co when not as many are on, switches to NS with more players
Ask the people who played it. They all want a game like this again, and would still play it, not if it had an new engine, but if it was properly balanced.
Hell, I would still play it (and prolly would have never quit it in the first place) if those things where given.
I mean, look at TFC or CS1.6, they are still played a lot. Not to mention other "outdated" games by other developers. They also had problems with stupid and unnecessary balancing changes, but they were never as huge as in NS.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well NS never had as large of a player base as CS or even DoD. No HL1 mod other than CS really has a strong player base today. NS was/is a niche game. Bad servers are the reason I stopped playing about 6 months ago though. I just couldn't find a non-modded(gorgehook and/or sporemines and/or lerklift) classic server with regular players since that point. It was just a critical mass thing I think. NS is a team game, much more so than CS or DoD so it's harder to "just hop on". The games are longer and more involved, you don't join, get a few frags, then leave like with DoD or CS.