Do not put Natural Selection 2...

Konohas Perverted HermitKonohas Perverted Hermit Join Date: 2008-09-26 Member: 65075Members
edited February 2009 in Ideas and Suggestions
<div class="IPBDescription">On the XBox 360...</div>So I have heard that Flayra, has announced that they are going to port Natural Selection 2 to the XBox 360 system. I cannot think of a worse idea to ruin your loyal fan base from Natural Selection 1 and further more ruin Natural Selection itself... To put a game as complicated and involved as Natural Selection on a console you'll have to dumb it down soo much that it will no longer be a good game. It will just become a generic FPS that is easy to play. My suggestion is to NOT make Natural Selection 2 for the XBox 360. If you MUST make one from the XBox 360 make it it's own version and have it no how related to the PC version in aspects of game play, controls, and online servers. If you do make an XBox 360 version of Natural Selection 2, do not use the code and Engine from the one for the PC version so that the PC version stays on track with it's Natural Selection game play, design, and control aspects.

Personally I think you shouldn't even do it until the PC version of Natural Selection 2 is out and everyone is having fun on it.

P.S. I cannot figure out how to make a simple Poll...
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  • KazbarKazbar Join Date: 2004-10-20 Member: 32368Members, Constellation
    It will be interesting to see how Halo Wars is received since it's real-time strategy video game.
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  • pSyk0mAnpSyk0mAn Nerdish by Nature Germany Join Date: 2003-08-07 Member: 19166Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Silver, NS2 Community Developer
    In generally I think it's a good idea, because it helps UWE and it helps to increase the fanbase of the ns universe, but I'm also a little afraid that a few things might get dumbed down for the sake of the xbox version, especially if they consider it already in the current developement process.
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  • tequebrotequebro Join Date: 2009-02-28 Member: 66574Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1701630:date=Feb 28 2009, 06:59 AM:name=pSyk0mAn)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(pSyk0mAn @ Feb 28 2009, 06:59 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1701630"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->In generally I think it's a good idea, because it helps UWE and it helps to increase the fanbase of the ns universe, but I'm also a little afraid that a few things might get dumbed down for the sake of the xbox version, <b>especially if they consider it already in the current developement process.</b><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    they wont.they already said that.
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  • ratclawratclaw Join Date: 2008-06-12 Member: 64433Members
    I'm missing how it would translate badly. There is always a way around compatibility issues. The product we end up with is determined by how much effort the team puts into it.

    If UW wants to port NS2 to the 360, they will find a way to keep the same feel of the game.
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  • juicejuice Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12886Members, Constellation
    edited February 2009
    The xbox 360 uses the 360 controller.
    The PC uses mouse and keyboard.
    Different controls mean the game would have to be different.

    Here's a good "<!--coloro:yellow--><span style="color:yellow"><!--/coloro-->analogy<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->":

    If you tried to play baseball with a katana instead of a baseball bat, you'd have to change the rules. The ball might split in half, and it would get complicated.

    But if you just intend on killing someone in their sleep, either one will work ok.


    See, making NS2 playable with an xbox 360 controller is like murder...
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  • douchebagatrondouchebagatron Custom member title Join Date: 2003-12-20 Member: 24581Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    They already stated that IF there is an xbox 360 port, it wouldn't happen until AFTER the pc version is done. meaning any 360 version that ever comes about, will not have any influence on the pc version.

    to be honest, considering a 360 port is a smart idea, because it broadens their player base without hurting the pc base.

    this game is being designed for the pc, and they made it pretty clear that the 360 port is being considered because of the very fact that it would broaden the player base. if it becomes too much work to adapt it for console, or requires dumbing down in any way, i'm sure they would drop it, or figure out a way that would appease everyone.
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  • FirewaterFirewater Balance Expert Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10690Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1701652:date=Feb 28 2009, 12:23 PM:name=6john)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(6john @ Feb 28 2009, 12:23 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1701652"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->They already stated that IF there is an xbox 360 port, it wouldn't happen until AFTER the pc version is done. meaning any 360 version that ever comes about, will not have any influence on the pc version.

    to be honest, considering a 360 port is a smart idea, because it broadens their player base without hurting the pc base.

    this game is being designed for the pc, and they made it pretty clear that the 360 port is being considered because of the very fact that it would broaden the player base. if it becomes too much work to adapt it for console, or requires dumbing down in any way, i'm sure they would drop it, or figure out a way that would appease everyone.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Well as long as the PC version is completed first, I wouldn't really care. Problem is, how many x360 players know about NS1, let alone NS2. I just hope that if it is released on 360 that it will have a significant player base like the old NS1 PC did. I am not to optimistic about that, but hey it could happen.
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  • spellman23spellman23 NS1 Theorycraft Expert Join Date: 2007-05-17 Member: 60920Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1701654:date=Feb 28 2009, 05:52 PM:name=Firewater)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Firewater @ Feb 28 2009, 05:52 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1701654"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Well as long as the PC version is completed first, I wouldn't really care. Problem is, how many x360 players know about NS1, let alone NS2. I just hope that if it is released on 360 that it will have a significant player base like the old NS1 PC did. I am not to optimistic about that, but hey it could happen.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Also, will they have to handicap PC players due to their superior accuracy on the mouse?

    I seem to recall some other games that let 360 players play against PC players had to introduce an accuracy handicap on the PC players.
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  • douchebagatrondouchebagatron Custom member title Join Date: 2003-12-20 Member: 24581Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    they never said that pc would be able to play against 360, and as far as i know the only game that does that is shadowrun, which balances it by adding aim assist to the 360 version. plus to do that they would have to go with games for windows live, and they have not mentioned that at all.

    They also stated that there aren't definite 360 plans, they 'just don't want to put themselves in the corner by making it require mouse and keyboard'

    so don't flip out.
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  • HarimauHarimau Join Date: 2007-12-24 Member: 63250Members
    edited February 2009
    <!--quoteo(post=1701642:date=Feb 28 2009, 10:23 PM:name=juice)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(juice @ Feb 28 2009, 10:23 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1701642"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The xbox 360 uses the 360 controller.
    The PC uses mouse and keyboard.
    Different controls mean the game would have to be different.

    Here's a good "<!--coloro:yellow--><span style="color:yellow"><!--/coloro-->analogy<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->":

    If you tried to play baseball with a katana instead of a baseball bat, you'd have to change the rules. The ball might split in half, and it would get complicated.

    But if you just intend on killing someone in their sleep, either one will work ok.
    See, making NS2 playable with an xbox 360 controller is like murder...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    HAHAHAHA. That was one ridiculous analogy, and i'm not sure it was 'good' as an analogy, but it sure as hell was good.

    <!--quoteo(post=1701664:date=Mar 1 2009, 05:18 AM:name=6john)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(6john @ Mar 1 2009, 05:18 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1701664"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->They also stated that there aren't definite 360 plans, they 'just don't want to put themselves in the corner by making it require mouse and keyboard'<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I thought that was more in regards to the interface.
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  • God_HandGod_Hand Join Date: 2007-10-02 Member: 62519Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1701642:date=Feb 28 2009, 09:23 AM:name=juice)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(juice @ Feb 28 2009, 09:23 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1701642"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The xbox 360 uses the 360 controller.
    The PC uses mouse and keyboard.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    My thoughts exactly. Can you even imagine how hard it would be to Fade w/ dual-analog?
    <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/asrifle.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::asrifle::" border="0" alt="asrifle.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/asrifle.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::asrifle::" border="0" alt="asrifle.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/asrifle.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::asrifle::" border="0" alt="asrifle.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/fade.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::fade::" border="0" alt="fade.gif" /> Dammit, can't turn around fast enough!
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  • slayer20slayer20 Killed a man once. Join Date: 2007-12-13 Member: 63157Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    I don't care what they do with the 360...they better make the game for the PC first, then after that's done and released, change things to work for the 360. I don't want another PC game that caters to the 360...
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  • KazbarKazbar Join Date: 2004-10-20 Member: 32368Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1701642:date=Feb 28 2009, 06:23 AM:name=juice)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(juice @ Feb 28 2009, 06:23 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1701642"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The xbox 360 uses the 360 controller.
    The PC uses mouse and keyboard.
    Different controls mean the game would have to be different.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I think the 360 needs a mouse and keyboard.
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  • BadMouthBadMouth It ceases to be exclusive when you can have a custom member titl Join Date: 2004-05-21 Member: 28815Members
    Flayra has already assured us PC first, then Xbox second. And it is a smart idea to make a game for the Xbox. But has anyone considered doing it for the wii? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />
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  • MaxMax Technical Director, Unknown Worlds Entertainment Join Date: 2002-03-15 Member: 318Super Administrators, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, Constellation, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts, Future Perfect Developer
    <!--quoteo(post=1701627:date=Feb 27 2009, 10:50 PM:name=Konohas Perverted Hermit)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Konohas Perverted Hermit @ Feb 27 2009, 10:50 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1701627"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->So I have heard that Flayra, has announced that they are going to port Natural Selection 2 to the XBox 360 system.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    We haven't announced that.
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  • Carte BlancheCarte Blanche Join Date: 2008-09-24 Member: 65070Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1701726:date=Mar 1 2009, 06:05 PM:name=Max)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Max @ Mar 1 2009, 06:05 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1701726"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->We haven't announced that.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    In response to this question on the 2/13/09 podcast:

    6) can you reveal the ambitious changes you have made to the commander UI? (inspired by the 360 control pads)

    In the podcast charlie says something like "we are focused on making the PC version the best we can make it and then we're going to do the 360 version" and then later says something like "if we don't make some big decisions now then it's really not going to work on the 360" but that they "do want it to work there." I'm not quoting perfectly but it sounds to me like you guys were saying you will try to make it work on the 360.
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  • Konohas Perverted HermitKonohas Perverted Hermit Join Date: 2008-09-26 Member: 65075Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1701737:date=Mar 2 2009, 02:03 AM:name=Carte Blanche)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Carte Blanche @ Mar 2 2009, 02:03 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1701737"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=1701726:date=Mar 1 2009, 07:05 PM:name=Max)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Max @ Mar 1 2009, 07:05 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1701726"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=1701627:date=Feb 28 2009, 12:50 AM:name=Konohas Perverted Hermit)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Konohas Perverted Hermit @ Feb 28 2009, 12:50 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1701627"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    So I have heard that Flayra, has announced that they are going to port Natural Selection 2 to the XBox 360 system.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    We haven't announced that.
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    In response to this question on the 2/13/09 podcast:

    6) can you reveal the ambitious changes you have made to the commander UI? (inspired by the 360 control pads)

    In the podcast charlie says something like "we are focused on making the PC version the best we can make it and then we're going to do the 360 version" and then later says something like "if we don't make some big decisions now then it's really not going to work on the 360" but that they "do want it to work there." I'm not quoting perfectly but it sounds to me like you guys were saying you will try to make it work on the 360.
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    *Coughs*
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  • HarimauHarimau Join Date: 2007-12-24 Member: 63250Members
    consideration =/= certainty
    they hope, and they're considering an xbox360 port, but they haven't <b>announced</b> one.
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  • steppin'razorsteppin'razor Join Date: 2008-09-18 Member: 65033Members, Constellation
    they announced they are considering it
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  • HarimauHarimau Join Date: 2007-12-24 Member: 63250Members
    hardly 'announced'. if it had been announced, it would've been on the front page.
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