Mounted mini gun

slayer20slayer20 Killed a man once. Join Date: 2007-12-13 Member: 63157Members, Reinforced - Shadow
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I think a mounted mini gun would make a good addition to Natural Selection.

It would be something that the Commander would spawn in a given spot, and set it's direction. This would be good for defending long hallways or doors inside a hive.

The drawback would be overheating (meaning they can fire for so long until they have to wait for it to cooldown) and that they would not get cover from behind (unless marines are protecting them).

If anything, it'd kind of be like a Heavy Machine Gun that's mounted, but stronger and with either infinite ammo, or a crap ton of ammo.

The mounted minigun would not be able to be carried by marines, as that would probably be unfair for the aliens.

This just came into my head, so it probably needs some more thought put into it.
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  • schkorpioschkorpio I can mspaint Join Date: 2003-05-23 Member: 16635Members
    edited August 2009
    you mean like the automatic turrets in ns1 that marines dont even have to aim ? :P

    EDIT - i'm guessing this is left 4 dead inspired?
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  • FocusedWolfFocusedWolf Join Date: 2005-01-09 Member: 34258Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1725712:date=Aug 31 2009, 08:02 PM:name=schkorpio)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (schkorpio @ Aug 31 2009, 08:02 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1725712"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->you mean like the automatic turrets in ns1 that marines dont even have to aim ? :P

    EDIT - i'm guessing this is left 4 dead inspired?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I think the idea is for it to be more powerful then those turrets... something for use in hallway defense, phase-gate defense, and giant custom map defense, and be deadly against fades and oni. Marines are supposed to be the attackers and yet the NS2 Onos is a "disruptor" for breaking through the marine-defenses... it's sort of weird but proves marines need a variety of defensive weaponry (like turrets). I think it could fit into the game.

    What if it was drivable... like you drive it into position and then you can cover an area, or one marine drives your little golf cart and you man the Gatling gun. (Yes CC's should be drivable, like in Empires mod, as well... why hasn't anyone suggested that yet :P)
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  • BadMouthBadMouth It ceases to be exclusive when you can have a custom member titl Join Date: 2004-05-21 Member: 28815Members
    I see if just as an upgraded turret. I remember one of the devs saying that the turrets are now being able to be positioned and will fire in a certain arc, leaving their backs exposed. Now for this minigun, if it is nothing other than a more powerful turret, I would have to say no to this idea since it doesn't play an extra role in the game. I am also against powerful static defenses since it just slows down the game so the minigun idea, is a no.
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  • Dead-InsideDead-Inside Join Date: 2004-09-22 Member: 31862Members
    edited September 2009
    I doubt it would "fit", but much more importantly; The marines don't need even more power when humping down and trying to stall the game. Unless, of course, it would be "a turret", only human operated, which would make no sense.

    Edit: I'm a bit tired, just look at the above post.
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  • naughty_skulkernaughty_skulker Join Date: 2003-08-31 Member: 20411Members
    Might be cool if automated turrets where also made usable, the benefit being able to focus fire and possible allow a more sustained fire where as the auto turrets would just operate in bursts at the nearest target.

    Not a fan of mini-guns though, I mean they could come up with something more original.
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  • xmainexmaine Join Date: 2009-08-10 Member: 68409Members
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    marines would be invincible trying to hold down a location where as aliens would get dominated and leave.

    no
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  • FocusedWolfFocusedWolf Join Date: 2005-01-09 Member: 34258Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1725738:date=Sep 1 2009, 12:47 AM:name=Dead-Inside)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dead-Inside @ Sep 1 2009, 12:47 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1725738"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I doubt it would "fit", but much more importantly; The marines don't need even more power when humping down and trying to stall the game. Unless, of course, it would be "a turret", only human operated, which would make no sense.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    You know... you right. In effect, it doesn't make sense because marines can put down 50 turrets in one area and unless their's a gorge to bile bomb, that the defense could work... unfortunately most maps have just 4 or 5 rts and marines never get the res to try interesting tactics beyond giving everyone shotguns. The best the commander can do is give out a pack of mines to defend a PG.

    The problem is the game is boring. Every response is pre-determined... Drop a pg = give out mines... Taking a hive = give out shotguns... Sieging last hive = give out jp ftw... Trying to make a team full of win = give out HA... Playing a siege map? = You now have res to give out hmgs.
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  • locallyunscenelocallyunscene Feeder of Trolls Join Date: 2002-12-25 Member: 11528Members, Constellation
    IIRC the new HMG is a deployable minigun. In practice it would work more like the heavies' minigun than a stationary turret.
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  • NeoSniperNeoSniper Join Date: 2005-06-02 Member: 52976Members
    I think the NS2 turrets being directional and more powerful. Effectively fill this role.

    So you want an even more powerful turret that also costs you a man off the field? I'd say an auto turret with a LMG/Shotgun/HMG marine standing right behind it will probably be just as or even more effective.

    I don't think this idea adds enough variety to the game. Also it's use would seem super specialized. Overall, not feeling the manned turrets.

    Off-topic. Would love more auto-turret options/upgrades.
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  • IeptBarakatIeptBarakat The most difficult name to speak ingame. Join Date: 2009-07-10 Member: 68107Members, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow
    The oni could gather and do a shield charge while the aliens/fades come from behind the oni and attack the rines.
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  • ChickenOfWarChickenOfWar Join Date: 2003-04-09 Member: 15352Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1725712:date=Aug 31 2009, 08:02 PM:name=schkorpio)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (schkorpio @ Aug 31 2009, 08:02 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1725712"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->you mean like the automatic turrets in ns1 that marines dont even have to aim ? :P

    EDIT - i'm guessing this is left 4 dead inspired?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    yes because left 4 dead invented the mounted minigun that overheats in a video game <_<
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  • dudepuppetdudepuppet Join Date: 2007-10-24 Member: 62727Members
    dont worry L4D isent the 1st to make a gun that has cooldown
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  • SewlekSewlek The programmer previously known as Schimmel Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16247Members, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, Subnautica Developer
    they also invented first person perspective and 3d environments in a video game
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  • slayer20slayer20 Killed a man once. Join Date: 2007-12-13 Member: 63157Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1725802:date=Sep 1 2009, 07:42 PM:name=locallyunscene)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (locallyunscene @ Sep 1 2009, 07:42 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1725802"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->IIRC the new HMG is a deployable minigun. In practice it would work more like the heavies' minigun than a stationary turret.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Do you mean we'll be able to mount our HMG on the floor or wherever?
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  • RobBRobB ＴＵＢＥＳ ＯＦ ＴＨＥ ＩＮＴＥＲＷＥＢ Join Date: 2003-08-11 Member: 19423Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Target painters. You light a tank up and every turret that sees it fires on it.
    You self or a fellow marine in the way? Happy trip to the spawn queue (ignores friendly fire settings)
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