Natural Selection 2 News Update - Spark SDK (Build 128) Released

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  • CrispixCrispix Join Date: 2007-01-10 Member: 59543Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Gold, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited December 2009
    Hey Max,

    It appears a bunch of us are getting problems with the new update. It says it's downloaded the update, and prompts the user to install, and it then pops up a dialog window saying that the install is complete. Once clicking Ok, it then prompts the user again to download the update, meaning the update was unsuccessful. I've rebooted my PC, and still no luck. Will there be a fix for this?

    I read on facebook that someone had no issues, but the rest of us including myself who posted are having these problems.


    EDIT: Nevermind. Just now the update worked.
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  • Corporal_FortierCorporal_Fortier Join Date: 2005-03-22 Member: 46079Members, Constellation
    Yeah, it didn't work for me at first, but I waited for about half an hour (did nothing special) and it worked fine. Someone must have forgot to check a checkbox or something, but it's Friday night, so we can't blame them! :p
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  • InkInk Join Date: 2009-08-15 Member: 68499Members
    Im liking the new stuff but i still cant do shadows, it always turns yellow when i get to close and even far away when i can see the light, it casts no shadow, and news when this is going to be fixed? also a lot of the models turned yellow also because of this. I have a nvidea 6800 gt.
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  • PipiPipi Join Date: 2009-12-09 Member: 69550Members
    Where's my Edge extrusion feature !?? :D

    just kidding.. that would be so great though.
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  • AndosAndos Join Date: 2003-10-17 Member: 21742Members
    Nice update! :)

    One thing: Why doesn't your crash feedback dialog show up for me when Spark crashes? I have made it crash several times without that happening. :(
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  • ScalionScalion Join Date: 2009-01-10 Member: 66036Members
    <b>PROPS</b>
    - Missing picture of
    Models/effects/muzzle_flash01.model
    Models/misc/tech_point/tech_point.model
    Models/props/refinery/refinery_floormods_01_128platform1.model
    Models/props/refinery/refinery_floormods_01_128platform2.model
    Models/props/refinery/refinery_floormods_01_256platform1.model
    Models/props/refinery/refinery_vent_broken_01.model
    Models/props/refinery/refinery_ventmods_fillcornerin.model
    Models/props/refinery/refinery_ventmods_fillcornerininside.model
    Models/props/refinery/refinery_ventmods_fillstraight.model
    Models/props/refinery/refinery_wallmods_04_uppercorner.model

    - Some of the picture of props have been taken in reverse (1 side texture...)
    - Missing texture of first few props and last (but since the begining)
    - Scroll mouse doesn't work
    - Some props picture have the light a bit blasted

    ---
    - FPS still bad with shadow of light (dunno if there anything change since last update
    - I have more trouble with selecting new face, (actualy i can't make multiple selection of face)


    that it for now.
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  • yimmasabiyimmasabi Join Date: 2006-11-03 Member: 58318Members
    edited December 2009
    Wow mostly fixed. I dont think that i will crash this.

    Thanx for the texture lower size bug fix. It is now faster. No less than 10-5 i think.

    It seems good. Im gonna report again if i get an error.
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  • Demented CarrotDemented Carrot Join Date: 2009-03-06 Member: 66648Members
    I still really want a "hammer-esque alt+right click with a face selected" sort of deal for the texture application tool. At least something that makes copying texture settings from face to face easier would be very cool. I dont mind the props, but I do miss the olden days of only "brushwork" :P
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  • spacedanielspacedaniel Join Date: 2009-11-11 Member: 69348Members
    edited December 2009
    Still have this problem:

    Couldn't open file "fonts/arial.ttf"
    Couldn't open file "shaders/deferred.fx"
    Couldn't open file "shaders/blur.fx"
    Couldn't load 'ns2.editor_setup'
    Couldn't open file "shaders/editormaterial.fx"
    Couldn't open file "shaders/occlusion.fx"
    Couldn't open file "materials/dev/black.vtf"
    Couldn't open file "materials/dev/black.vtf"
    Couldn't open file "materials/dev/black.vtf"
    Couldn't open file "materials/dev/black.vtf"
    Couldn't open file "materials/dev/black.vtf"
    Couldn't open file "materials/dev/black.vtf"

    The filesystem seems to be whacko. Running windows 7 on a 64-bit comp.

    The effect is that I don't get to see thumbnails in the props browser but I can add them to the map.
    Also, the autosave doesn't work since it cant find the proper place to do it.
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  • crodecrode Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7876Members
    Those files are in the /naturalselection2/core/ install area. It doesn't seem to know the path to that location. Try running the exe right from the install folder. Did you maybe copy the editor.exe instead of make shortcut?
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  • vizardvizard Join Date: 2008-03-06 Member: 63807Members, Constellation
    still no props with windows :( ?
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  • spacedanielspacedaniel Join Date: 2009-11-11 Member: 69348Members
    edited December 2009
    Hmm, good point. I don't know where the program runs. I ran it from the taskbar in win 7 and I'm not sure how that works yet. Edited the path for autosaves. It defaults to a "user/blabla/ns2..." which seems to be the problem. Autosave works now.

    But running from within the folder haven't solved it. Still get
    Couldn't open file "materials/dev/black.vtf"
    Couldn't open file "materials/dev/black.vtf"
    Couldn't open file "materials/dev/black.vtf"
    Couldn't open file "materials/dev/black.vtf"
    Couldn't open file "materials/dev/black.vtf"
    Couldn't open file "materials/dev/black.vtf"
    in absurdum.

    Will look into windows paths.... maybe windows messes with the paths during install.


    EDIT:

    WORKS NOW! SOMETIMES IT'S REALLY EASY!

    Don't know why I haven't tried it before. ----->RUN IT AS ADMIN!!!
    This probably cut's out the "user/" part in windows attempt to direct paths or something like that.
    However this one is still not working
    Couldn't open file "materials/dev/black.vtf"
    but I can see the props now so I'll let it slide.

    Now to get some mapping done :D
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  • yimmasabiyimmasabi Join Date: 2006-11-03 Member: 58318Members
    "Don't know why I haven't tried it before. ----->RUN IT AS ADMIN!!!"


    Guys if u r rusing Vista or Win7 you should RUN IT AS ADMIN !
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  • yimmasabiyimmasabi Join Date: 2006-11-03 Member: 58318Members
    "Don't know why I haven't tried it before. ----->RUN IT AS ADMIN!!!"


    Guys if u r using Vista or Win7 you should RUN IT AS ADMIN !
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  • AndosAndos Join Date: 2003-10-17 Member: 21742Members
    Windows 7 here, and not running as admin and it works fine. You should never need to run an app as admin unless it does admin'ish stuff.
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  • borgkingborgking Join Date: 2009-11-24 Member: 69504Members
    edited December 2009
    Got some problems with builder:
    1.
    <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=108392&view=findpost&p=1743542" target="_blank">http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/in...t&p=1743542</a>
    2. (if I remove spaces by copying to another folder)
    <!--c1--><div class='codetop'>CODE</div><div class='codemain'><!--ec1-->Building...
    1> J:\games\ns2\ns2\materials\darkwater\bk_glass01.material
    1> Die Syntax f
    1> teinamen, Verzeichnisnamen oder die Datentr
    1> chnung ist falsch.
    2> J:\games\ns2\ns2\models\darkwater\nature\fish01.model
    1> J:\games\ns2\ns2\models\darkwater\nature\fish01.model
    2> Couldn't load geometry file 'J:\games\ns2\scr\modelsrc\darkwater\nature\>'
    2> J:\games\ns2\ns2\models\darkwater\nature\fish01.dds
    2> Die Syntax f
    2> teinamen, Verzeichnisnamen oder die Datentr
    2> chnung ist falsch.
    1> Couldn't load geometry file 'J:\games\ns2\scr\modelsrc\darkwater\nature\>'
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Build complete (0 seconds)
    0 succeeded, 4 failed, 0 up-to-date, 6 skipped<!--c2--></div><!--ec2-->
    Translation:
    <!--c1--><div class='codetop'>CODE</div><div class='codemain'><!--ec1-->2>The syntax f (of)(?)
    2> datanames, foldernames or partition
    2> is wrong.<!--c2--></div><!--ec2-->
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  • myklmykl Join Date: 2005-04-05 Member: 47584Members
    Everything was working fine before the update, but now all the textures are black. No lights, nada.

    Specs are:
    i7 920 @ 3.8GHz
    Radeon HD 5870
    Windows 7
    All w/ updated drivers

    This also happens on my older system (P4, Radeon X800, WindowsXP), but as I said it worked fine before the update on my new system. Somebody please help! Now it doesn't work on any of my comps :(
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  • kickerkicker Join Date: 2007-09-22 Member: 62397Members, Constellation
    i got more content than promised :D

    <a href="http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/751/sparktoomuch.jpg" target="_blank">http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/751/sparktoomuch.jpg</a>
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  • myklmykl Join Date: 2005-04-05 Member: 47584Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1743556:date=Dec 12 2009, 07:00 AM:name=kicker)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kicker @ Dec 12 2009, 07:00 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1743556"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->i got more content than promised :D

    <a href="http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/751/sparktoomuch.jpg" target="_blank">http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/751/sparktoomuch.jpg</a><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That's an early Christmas present for you.
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  • pSyk0mAnpSyk0mAn Nerdish by Nature Germany Join Date: 2003-08-07 Member: 19166Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Silver, NS2 Community Developer
    <!--quoteo(post=1743555:date=Dec 12 2009, 01:59 PM:name=mykl)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mykl @ Dec 12 2009, 01:59 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1743555"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Everything was working fine before the update, but now all the textures are black. No lights, nada.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I'm sorry for you, but I'm glad this happened to be honest.
    After all there are ppl out there that have this problem since the release of the editor and this might help to solve that issue finally.
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  • spacedanielspacedaniel Join Date: 2009-11-11 Member: 69348Members
    Regarding Vista / Win 7:

    I think I need to look into my user rights. Win 7 states that NS2/Spark will make changes to my PC (Woooo I'm so scared....thank you, MS, for letting me know) which means it want's read/write access to my HD. Stupid. Anyway, I run Steam in admin as well so no biggie for me. This prob aside I really like "7". Runs fantastic!
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  • myklmykl Join Date: 2005-04-05 Member: 47584Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1743565:date=Dec 12 2009, 09:44 AM:name=pSyk0mAn)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pSyk0mAn @ Dec 12 2009, 09:44 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1743565"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I'm sorry for you, but I'm glad this happened to be honest.
    After all there are ppl out there that have this problem since the release of the editor and this might help to solve that issue finally.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I agree, I think they should make this bug a priority, because you can't even use the editor. It's not just an annoyance like some other bugs. I just hope they get around to fixing it, because now I have two PC's that won't run the editor. It seems like it's only happening on certain Radeon cards.
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  • KarrdeKarrde Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16264Members
    Ugh, hate ATI. Cards are fine, drivers suck. Running in admin mode (at least during install) seems to work fine here, haven't had many problems aside from crashes. Though I haven't had much time to mess with it since before last week's update.
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  • jaminjamin Join Date: 2008-01-03 Member: 63332Members
    Now, the fun begins.
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  • BlakkCooperBlakkCooper Join Date: 2007-11-24 Member: 63009Members
    runs fine!
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  • TheLordTheLord Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16258Members
    edited December 2009
    runs fine on win 7 64bit w/ a HD4850 ... no admin mode required (except for installing patches obviously)

    I wonder what I'm supposed to do with the Builder tool ... no idea :D and lack of documentation..
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  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    When can we flip/mirror geometry and perhaps props :P
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  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    Props can be mirrored with negative scale values, but for geometry we are out of luck.
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  • AlaskaAlaska Join Date: 2006-10-11 Member: 58067Members
    I little request for the update-functionality:

    It is really great to get a list of updates before downloading. But could it be possible to put the size of the download i'm about to start somewhere? Since i have limited traffic i have to look out for it (of course - those 10 mb are not that much - but the information would be good anyways)
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  • TriggermanTriggerman Graphic Artist Join Date: 2004-11-10 Member: 32724Members, WC 2013 - Supporter
    <!--quoteo(post=1743638:date=Dec 13 2009, 02:15 AM:name=Alaska)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Alaska @ Dec 13 2009, 02:15 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1743638"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I little request for the update-functionality:

    It is really great to get a list of updates before downloading. But could it be possible to put the size of the download i'm about to start somewhere? Since i have limited traffic i have to look out for it (of course - those 10 mb are not that much - but the information would be good anyways)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I think along these lines that having a way to see the list of "Patch Notes" in the "Help"-menu would be neat as well. Since the moment you shut the auto-updater down, you have to visit the website to see what has been patched. And the website so far doesn't even have a dedicated page for the list of updates. A text-file to read from the editor directory that is updated each patch would be great.
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