<!--quoteo(post=1743626:date=Dec 12 2009, 10:38 PM:name=Draco_2k)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Draco_2k @ Dec 12 2009, 10:38 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1743626"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->In order: personal opinion on forums is invalid by default, TF2 does not have paid wardrobes, constellation icons are pretty much the exact same thing with difference only in representation in-game, black armour would not be included at all if it gave a distinct gameplay advantage.
Please save the rage for some other time. Say, for when we actually get to see the game itself.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> In order: 1) this is a <u>discussion forum</u> 2) TF2 has "unlockables" for hats/gear, and MMO's have "micropayements" 3) yes, because in-game representations have no effect on gameplay 4) you have a poor understanding of game mechanics and how even such minor things can have an impact on outcome
Also, you're lack of foresight is disturbing - do you honestly think this is going to be an easily "tweakable" decision given it does affect gameplay? (and with so many dark maps being showcased I can assure you it will); they can't just remove or substitute it without incurring the wrath of hose who preordered because of it.
Your naivety aside, suffice it to say entire flame wars have started over differences as small as the 0.003 in the value of a variable ("gg interp", "gg gamma", "gg ratehacks") and competition (CAL-NS prohibited the use of global chat or spraypaints lest a few pixels distract your opponent (and I've witnessed that rule overturning at least one match).
Perhaps come back and comment when you have a better grasp of the subject, because I assure you black armour will have an impact, and regardless of what kind, players will become as jaded as the "gamma" wars (which resulted in its capping). And to those who think alienflashlight will nullify the bias (if it even exists), you need to properly examine your argument: there should be no "purchasable" bias in the first place.
So in an effort to avoid a potential problem that will be harder to correct the longer it continues, please do not offer black armour to only a subset of the community; either make it available to all, or offer supporters a more inert commemoration such as an icon. Let's generate some ideas: + Player icons / Highlighted name + Different voice for Radio comms + Ready-Room black armour, or other changes + able to pre-test patches ...
<!--quoteo(post=1743838:date=Dec 15 2009, 12:37 AM:name=R_e_n_e_g_a_d_e)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (R_e_n_e_g_a_d_e @ Dec 15 2009, 12:37 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1743838"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->In order: 1) this is a <u>discussion forum</u> 2) TF2 has "unlockables" for hats/gear, and MMO's have "micropayements" 3) yes, because in-game representations have no effect on gameplay 4) you have a poor understanding of game mechanics and how even such minor things can have an impact on outcome
Also, you're lack of foresight is disturbing - do you honestly think this is going to be an easily "tweakable" decision given it does affect gameplay? (and with so many dark maps being showcased I can assure you it will); they can't just remove or substitute it without incurring the wrath of hose who preordered because of it.
Your naivety aside, suffice it to say entire flame wars have started over differences as small as the 0.003 in the value of a variable ("gg interp", "gg gamma", "gg ratehacks") and competition (CAL-NS prohibited the use of global chat or spraypaints lest a few pixels distract your opponent (and I've witnessed that rule overturning at least one match).
Perhaps come back and comment when you have a better grasp of the subject, because I assure you black armour will have an impact, and regardless of what kind, players will become as jaded as the "gamma" wars (which resulted in its capping). And to those who think alienflashlight will nullify the bias (if it even exists), you need to properly examine your argument: there should be no "purchasable" bias in the first place.
So in an effort to avoid a potential problem that will be harder to correct the longer it continues, please do not offer black armour to only a subset of the community; either make it available to all, or offer supporters a more inert commemoration such as an icon. Let's generate some ideas: + Player icons / Highlighted name + Different voice for Radio comms + Ready-Room black armour, or other changes + able to pre-test patches ...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Having a hard time caring about this one, to be honest.
It won't make a difference and anyone who uses it as an excuse will probably be a moron.
if someone is that upset of some so-called "advantage" for having black armor, theyre clearly just insecure about their (i assume) lower skill level. granted, im also assuming ns2 will have a similar, if not so steep, learning curve, but any minor strategic advantage to having black armor can easily be compensated by working together with your teammates or simply getting better with close combat fighting as an alien. even if there is no alien flashlight in ns2, if the skill curve is similar to ns, you can still get past the fact that a marine in black armor will be slightly harder to see in dark areas
one last thought, should they purposefully leave the alien flashlight out as a way to reward people who pre-ordered the special edition by making them slightly more sneaky?
<!--quoteo(post=1743838:date=Dec 15 2009, 03:37 AM:name=R_e_n_e_g_a_d_e)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (R_e_n_e_g_a_d_e @ Dec 15 2009, 03:37 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1743838"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->In order: 1) this is a <u>discussion forum</u> 2) TF2 has "unlockables" for hats/gear, and MMO's have "micropayements" 3) yes, because in-game representations have no effect on gameplay 4) you have a poor understanding of game mechanics and how even such minor things can have an impact on outcome.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> 1)Which, like I said, has no place for baseless opinions; 2)Which are not paid for; 3)Addressed in fourth point; 4)Insult is not a form of argument.
And same to the rest of your post: insult is not a form of argument. I'm all for nitpicking, but nitpicking done properly. If you want to tell us how this is a horrible decision and UWE deserve to be hung from a tree, start with logical argumentes, not insults and plain misunderstanding. All you've done so far is make me reach for my mod-whistle.
To re-iterate the original point, black armour would likely not be included at all if it gave any form of in-game advantage looking at current attention UWE gives to gameplay. Moreover, people who care about such banal things will have all the ability to negate such things with maybe a couple of Lua lines.
So far it sounds to me that the only issue at hand is, some people were too cheap to get the 40$ version (or get one at all) and are now trying their best to rationalize it.
<!--quoteo(post=1743856:date=Dec 15 2009, 10:44 AM:name=Drummer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Drummer @ Dec 15 2009, 10:44 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1743856"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->one last thought, should they purposefully leave the alien flashlight out as a way to reward people who pre-ordered the special edition by making them slightly more sneaky?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> I doubt even EA would do something like this to a game-defining feature.
<!--quoteo(post=1743835:date=Dec 14 2009, 11:23 PM:name=Enjoy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Enjoy @ Dec 14 2009, 11:23 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1743835"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Last time I looked they never said anything about a "alien flashlight in NS2... Or are you just assuming its goin to be there because NS had it? OR... Did UWE directly contact you telling there putting it in NS2 because you seem vary sure its goin to be there. They have already removed alot of things that was in NS so i'm just assuming there will be no hacklight in NS2 tell told othrewise.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Either they will have an alien flashlight or there will be nowhere dark enough for marines to hide.
Because it's fairly obvious that invisible marines would be ridiculous.
<!--quoteo(post=1743868:date=Dec 15 2009, 05:54 AM:name=Draco_2k)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Draco_2k @ Dec 15 2009, 05:54 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1743868"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->1)Which, like I said, has no place for baseless opinions; 2)Which are not paid for; 3)Addressed in fourth point; 4)Insult is not a form of argument. And same to the rest of your post: insult is not a form of argument. I'm all for nitpicking, but nitpicking done properly. If you want to tell us how this is a horrible decision and UWE deserve to be hung from a tree, start with logical argumentes, not insults and plain misunderstanding. All you've done so far is make me reach for my mod-whistle. To re-iterate the original point, black armour would likely not be included at all if it gave any form of in-game advantage looking at current attention UWE gives to gameplay. Moreover, people who care about such banal things will have all the ability to negate such things with maybe a couple of Lua lines. So far it sounds to me that the only issue at hand is, some people were too cheap to get the 40$ version (or get one at all) and are now trying their best to rationalize it.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Because witnessing first hand the effects of every single gameplay change since the first beta obviously results in a baseless opinion right? Take your own advice in #4. Secondly no one ever mentioned TF2 unlockables as being paid for (perhaps try reading), but they are <i>gimmicky</i>. Perhaps providing <i>concrete examples</i> of changes no one ever thought would affect gameplay (but did) was not logical enough for you? In which case it would explain your poor grasp of it. Suffice to say, there are numerous visual nuances which are often completely missed until flushed out by the competitive community (i.e. muzzle flash, red-dot crosshairs, pink skulks). And I am predicting based on past history that this will be one of them. As for that last implication, I trust it was directed elsewhere because if not, you might want to invest that $40 into buying a spatula to scrape the egg off your face.
@Drummer, see my last post and check your reasoning. Unlike black armour, no one needs to "compensate by working together" for a constellation icon.
<!--quoteo(post=1743968:date=Dec 16 2009, 06:00 AM:name=R_e_n_e_g_a_d_e)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (R_e_n_e_g_a_d_e @ Dec 16 2009, 06:00 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1743968"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Because witnessing first hand the effects of every single gameplay change since the first beta obviously results in a baseless opinion right? Take your own advice in #4. Secondly no one ever mentioned TF2 unlockables as being paid for (perhaps try reading), but they are <i>gimmicky</i>. Perhaps providing <i>concrete examples</i> of changes no one ever thought would affect gameplay (but did) was not logical enough for you? In which case it would explain your poor grasp of it. Suffice to say, there are numerous visual nuances which are often completely missed until flushed out by the competitive community (i.e. muzzle flash, red-dot crosshairs, pink skulks). And I am predicting based on past history that this will be one of them. As for that last implication, I trust it was directed elsewhere because if not, you might want to invest that $40 into buying a spatula to scrape the egg off your face.
@Drummer, see my last post and check your reasoning. Unlike black armour, no one needs to "compensate by working together" for a constellation icon.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> a)I was not aware you're on NS2 development team; b)You implied they were paid for. If you did not intend to, I suggest working on your grammar and context recognition; c)"Gimmicky" is also an opinion piece and generally meaningless word, and has no relevance to this discussion; d)You can predict all you want, but your arguments are invalid and baseless as has been show apriori. You can still post them, but don't think for a second they won't be called out for what they are. Also, this is the worst comeback I've seen in my life: I can see no way in which it could possibly resemble a ghost of a shadow of sense, less of all an insult.
Otherwise, yes, you and I seem to be the only people caring about such stupid crap. Me only caring because you were being a ###### about it, I don't really care if something or other gives negligible advantage to whatever as long as the core gameplay is balanced myself.
Preorder game items have been going on forever in many games/companys, some give advantage some don't we payed them 20$+ more for them to get this game gonig with anything, you give more you get more everyone and i mean EVERYONE has the samn opportunity to pay for the SE preorder of this game if you want to be a cheap ass and only give 20$ its your own doing noone is forcing you to buy it but to come and tell them to take it out because it may give a little if none advantage over other players pisses me off if you have to come complain about that because you can't pay 20$ more then maybe you need to cancel your internet service you clearly need the money for more importent things other then entertainment.
For those whom are saying this will be a bad thing for Cal NS, i'm vary sorry to tell you CAL and CPL have been bought out by United Arab Emirates like 4 months ago for now there dead, I play Cal-Invite Counter Strike. But anyways i'm sure there will be a tournament mode that will take ALL customs and what not out for 100% fair gameplay, So what if black armor give a null advantage in a "pub"? competitive play i'm sure will take that all out!
I vote this topic be locked, and the cheap asses keep there coments to themselfs.
<!--quoteo(post=1743970:date=Dec 16 2009, 12:00 AM:name=Draco_2k)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Draco_2k @ Dec 16 2009, 12:00 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1743970"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Otherwise, yes, you and I seem to be the only people caring about such stupid crap. Me only caring because you were being a ###### about it, I don't really care if something or other gives negligible advantage to whatever as long as the core gameplay is balanced myself.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--quoteo(post=1744044:date=Dec 16 2009, 06:44 PM:name=Enjoy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Enjoy @ Dec 16 2009, 06:44 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1744044"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Preorder game items have been going on forever in many games/companys, some give advantage some don't we payed them 20$+ more for them to get this game gonig with anything... I play Cal-Invite Counter Strike.... I vote this topic be locked, and the cheap asses keep there coments to themselfs.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Common theme is common. I suppose justifying black armour is part and parcel of not being able to form a proper sentence without resorting to swearing and incoherency. As clearly neither of you understand what constitutes gameplay and seem to think this is a monetary issue, I'll choose to continue this discussion in its own thread in the hopes of generating better-formed responses. I invite you to stay in this one.
<!--quoteo(post=1744051:date=Dec 17 2009, 07:35 AM:name=R_e_n_e_g_a_d_e)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (R_e_n_e_g_a_d_e @ Dec 17 2009, 07:35 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1744051"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Common theme is common. I suppose justifying black armour is part and parcel of not being able to form a proper sentence without resorting to swearing and incoherency. As clearly neither of you understand what constitutes gameplay and seem to think this is a monetary issue, I'll choose to continue this discussion in its own thread in the hopes of generating better-formed responses. I invite you to stay in this one.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> tl;dr: I'm smarter than you, and black armour is bad.
<!--quoteo(post=1744051:date=Dec 17 2009, 02:35 AM:name=R_e_n_e_g_a_d_e)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (R_e_n_e_g_a_d_e @ Dec 17 2009, 02:35 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1744051"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Common theme is common. I suppose justifying black armour is part and parcel of not being able to form a proper sentence without resorting to swearing and incoherency. As clearly neither of you understand what constitutes gameplay and seem to think this is a monetary issue, I'll choose to continue this discussion in its own thread in the hopes of generating better-formed responses. I invite you to stay in this one.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> tl;dr - I have no arguments, so I'll just tell you you suck instead.
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Please save the rage for some other time. Say, for when we actually get to see the game itself.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
In order: 1) this is a <u>discussion forum</u> 2) TF2 has "unlockables" for hats/gear, and MMO's have "micropayements" 3) yes, because in-game representations have no effect on gameplay 4) you have a poor understanding of game mechanics and how even such minor things can have an impact on outcome
Also, you're lack of foresight is disturbing - do you honestly think this is going to be an easily "tweakable" decision given it does affect gameplay? (and with so many dark maps being showcased I can assure you it will); they can't just remove or substitute it without incurring the wrath of hose who preordered because of it.
Your naivety aside, suffice it to say entire flame wars have started over differences as small as the 0.003 in the value of a variable ("gg interp", "gg gamma", "gg ratehacks") and competition (CAL-NS prohibited the use of global chat or spraypaints lest a few pixels distract your opponent (and I've witnessed that rule overturning at least one match).
Perhaps come back and comment when you have a better grasp of the subject, because I assure you black armour will have an impact, and regardless of what kind, players will become as jaded as the "gamma" wars (which resulted in its capping). And to those who think alienflashlight will nullify the bias (if it even exists), you need to properly examine your argument: there should be no "purchasable" bias in the first place.
So in an effort to avoid a potential problem that will be harder to correct the longer it continues, please do not offer black armour to only a subset of the community; either make it available to all, or offer supporters a more inert commemoration such as an icon. Let's generate some ideas:
+ Player icons / Highlighted name
+ Different voice for Radio comms
+ Ready-Room black armour, or other changes
+ able to pre-test patches
...
Also, you're lack of foresight is disturbing - do you honestly think this is going to be an easily "tweakable" decision given it does affect gameplay? (and with so many dark maps being showcased I can assure you it will); they can't just remove or substitute it without incurring the wrath of hose who preordered because of it.
Your naivety aside, suffice it to say entire flame wars have started over differences as small as the 0.003 in the value of a variable ("gg interp", "gg gamma", "gg ratehacks") and competition (CAL-NS prohibited the use of global chat or spraypaints lest a few pixels distract your opponent (and I've witnessed that rule overturning at least one match).
Perhaps come back and comment when you have a better grasp of the subject, because I assure you black armour will have an impact, and regardless of what kind, players will become as jaded as the "gamma" wars (which resulted in its capping). And to those who think alienflashlight will nullify the bias (if it even exists), you need to properly examine your argument: there should be no "purchasable" bias in the first place.
So in an effort to avoid a potential problem that will be harder to correct the longer it continues, please do not offer black armour to only a subset of the community; either make it available to all, or offer supporters a more inert commemoration such as an icon. Let's generate some ideas:
+ Player icons / Highlighted name
+ Different voice for Radio comms
+ Ready-Room black armour, or other changes
+ able to pre-test patches
...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Having a hard time caring about this one, to be honest.
It won't make a difference and anyone who uses it as an excuse will probably be a moron.
The difference between dark grey and dark green isn't that big.
one last thought, should they purposefully leave the alien flashlight out as a way to reward people who pre-ordered the special edition by making them slightly more sneaky?
1)Which, like I said, has no place for baseless opinions; 2)Which are not paid for; 3)Addressed in fourth point; 4)Insult is not a form of argument.
And same to the rest of your post: insult is not a form of argument. I'm all for nitpicking, but nitpicking done properly. If you want to tell us how this is a horrible decision and UWE deserve to be hung from a tree, start with logical argumentes, not insults and plain misunderstanding. All you've done so far is make me reach for my mod-whistle.
To re-iterate the original point, black armour would likely not be included at all if it gave any form of in-game advantage looking at current attention UWE gives to gameplay. Moreover, people who care about such banal things will have all the ability to negate such things with maybe a couple of Lua lines.
So far it sounds to me that the only issue at hand is, some people were too cheap to get the 40$ version (or get one at all) and are now trying their best to rationalize it.
<!--quoteo(post=1743856:date=Dec 15 2009, 10:44 AM:name=Drummer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Drummer @ Dec 15 2009, 10:44 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1743856"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->one last thought, should they purposefully leave the alien flashlight out as a way to reward people who pre-ordered the special edition by making them slightly more sneaky?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I doubt even EA would do something like this to a game-defining feature.
Either they will have an alien flashlight or there will be nowhere dark enough for marines to hide.
Because it's fairly obvious that invisible marines would be ridiculous.
And same to the rest of your post: insult is not a form of argument. I'm all for nitpicking, but nitpicking done properly. If you want to tell us how this is a horrible decision and UWE deserve to be hung from a tree, start with logical argumentes, not insults and plain misunderstanding. All you've done so far is make me reach for my mod-whistle.
To re-iterate the original point, black armour would likely not be included at all if it gave any form of in-game advantage looking at current attention UWE gives to gameplay. Moreover, people who care about such banal things will have all the ability to negate such things with maybe a couple of Lua lines.
So far it sounds to me that the only issue at hand is, some people were too cheap to get the 40$ version (or get one at all) and are now trying their best to rationalize it.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Because witnessing first hand the effects of every single gameplay change since the first beta obviously results in a baseless opinion right? Take your own advice in #4. Secondly no one ever mentioned TF2 unlockables as being paid for (perhaps try reading), but they are <i>gimmicky</i>.
Perhaps providing <i>concrete examples</i> of changes no one ever thought would affect gameplay (but did) was not logical enough for you? In which case it would explain your poor grasp of it. Suffice to say, there are numerous visual nuances which are often completely missed until flushed out by the competitive community (i.e. muzzle flash, red-dot crosshairs, pink skulks). And I am predicting based on past history that this will be one of them.
As for that last implication, I trust it was directed elsewhere because if not, you might want to invest that $40 into buying a spatula to scrape the egg off your face.
@Drummer, see my last post and check your reasoning. Unlike black armour, no one needs to "compensate by working together" for a constellation icon.
Perhaps providing <i>concrete examples</i> of changes no one ever thought would affect gameplay (but did) was not logical enough for you? In which case it would explain your poor grasp of it. Suffice to say, there are numerous visual nuances which are often completely missed until flushed out by the competitive community (i.e. muzzle flash, red-dot crosshairs, pink skulks). And I am predicting based on past history that this will be one of them.
As for that last implication, I trust it was directed elsewhere because if not, you might want to invest that $40 into buying a spatula to scrape the egg off your face.
@Drummer, see my last post and check your reasoning. Unlike black armour, no one needs to "compensate by working together" for a constellation icon.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
a)I was not aware you're on NS2 development team; b)You implied they were paid for. If you did not intend to, I suggest working on your grammar and context recognition; c)"Gimmicky" is also an opinion piece and generally meaningless word, and has no relevance to this discussion; d)You can predict all you want, but your arguments are invalid and baseless as has been show apriori. You can still post them, but don't think for a second they won't be called out for what they are. Also, this is the worst comeback I've seen in my life: I can see no way in which it could possibly resemble a ghost of a shadow of sense, less of all an insult.
Otherwise, yes, you and I seem to be the only people caring about such stupid crap. Me only caring because you were being a ###### about it, I don't really care if something or other gives negligible advantage to whatever as long as the core gameplay is balanced myself.
For those whom are saying this will be a bad thing for Cal NS, i'm vary sorry to tell you CAL and CPL have been bought out by United Arab Emirates like 4 months ago for now there dead, I play Cal-Invite Counter Strike. But anyways i'm sure there will be a tournament mode that will take ALL customs and what not out for 100% fair gameplay, So what if black armor give a null advantage in a "pub"? competitive play i'm sure will take that all out!
I vote this topic be locked, and the cheap asses keep there coments to themselfs.
Long live Black Armor!
<!--quoteo(post=1744044:date=Dec 16 2009, 06:44 PM:name=Enjoy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Enjoy @ Dec 16 2009, 06:44 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1744044"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Preorder game items have been going on forever in many games/companys, some give advantage some don't we payed them 20$+ more for them to get this game gonig with anything...
I play Cal-Invite Counter Strike....
I vote this topic be locked, and the cheap asses keep there coments to themselfs.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Common theme is common. I suppose justifying black armour is part and parcel of not being able to form a proper sentence without resorting to swearing and incoherency.
As clearly neither of you understand what constitutes gameplay and seem to think this is a monetary issue, I'll choose to continue this discussion in its own thread in the hopes of generating better-formed responses. I invite you to stay in this one.
As clearly neither of you understand what constitutes gameplay and seem to think this is a monetary issue, I'll choose to continue this discussion in its own thread in the hopes of generating better-formed responses. I invite you to stay in this one.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
tl;dr: I'm smarter than you, and black armour is bad.
As clearly neither of you understand what constitutes gameplay and seem to think this is a monetary issue, I'll choose to continue this discussion in its own thread in the hopes of generating better-formed responses. I invite you to stay in this one.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
tl;dr - I have no arguments, so I'll just tell you you suck instead.
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