Sniper Rifle?
Rizz
Join Date: 2009-12-09 Member: 69547Members
Join Date: 2009-12-09 Member: 69547Members
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NS2 is based on short range and melee combat so you'll not find it in the game. Though it can surely be modded.
...although now that you mention it, it <i>would</i> be nice to deal with the inevitable vent-camping spore-spamming spike-sniping just-give-it-martyrdom-and-it-will-have-every-annoying-FPS-player-rolled-into-one Lerks.
I wonder if it can be the next level higher then the lmg... something like an un-upgraded hmg, so it only has 20 or 30 rounds.
It would be very useful to take out fades before they can escape. It's like a shotgun that fires slugs so you have to be extra skilled during cqb (but a high rate of fire means you will have plenty of opportunity to correct your aim). Ultimate penetration on fades and onoses offsets all the downsides (we can have it so 1 bullet can penetrate multiple aliens, thereby making it an important weapon to have during any sized battle).
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Watch this:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzhSAx6MUno" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzhSAx6MUno</a>
Not a long ranged shotgun, and not a Lerk.
Perhaps the pistol will remain that way.
Not a long ranged shotgun, and not a Lerk.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
why would you want a battle rifle in close quarters combat?
I'm not playing the role of the antagonist here :)
I've had my own creative idea for a sniper rifle that I'll eventually post (not below).
I believe that a bolt action sniper rifle would be best. It would have a slow rate of fire (like focus) and it would have a unique animation. It should do about the damage of a point blank shotgun blast. Explosive rounds might be a neat idea for splash damage. A quick laser burst might also be a cool idea (hence, why it is so big and bulky and you get so few shots). Laser rounds should be glowing when they are loaded and dim when they are ejected.
It should have a scope, preferably with a night vision or infrared option. The scope should be digital and look like something out of an attack helicopter (see below) with some horizontal lines or graininess (like bf2142 sniper rifle). The scope should be zoomed in way too far for hitting far off targets. Most NS maps don't have such long ranges, so the powerful scope would decrease usefulness (as a disadvantage). I'd like to maybe see a laser sight as well to paint targets.
The sound would travel very far. A nice, deep boom would be good (like an awp, but with pop).
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It should be similar to TF2's sniper, or Halo's, or CoD [series], or Counter Strike.
I'm not talking about a Sniper which destroys jets or tanks at all.
A hard hitting battle rifle vs a lmg that fires 50 rounds of nothing... hmmm ya i'll take the battle rifle.
I agree about the lmg. It's supposed to do 5 dmg x 50 rounds right? That's 250 dmg. I'm not sure I've even ever come close to that. (even with good accuracy)
The battle rifle definitely could have some use. Think of it as a long range shotgun (minus the spread). I like the idea of making it cumbersome with a slow firing rate to balance it.
Of course, doesn't matter what you're carrying if you don't hit with it (which is why FocusedWolf thinks Aliens are unkillable juggernauts that can wade through an entire team).
Most maps are close range. A moving skulk should be a difficult target, especially with an overly-powerful scope. In fact, a skulk that gets too close will not be easy to hit with the rifle. I guess that's why we have pistols.
That solves the delima of closed ranged maps with a long ranged item.
That solves the delima of closed ranged maps with a long ranged item.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
That would be a solution looking for a problem.
If an idea doesn't really fit into the kind of game NS is, it's usually better to discard the idea than try to change the game around it.
If an idea doesn't really fit into the kind of game NS is, it's usually better to discard the idea than try to change the game around it.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Do you think modding the game would be difficult?
It's not out yet, but was NS1 moddable?
It's not out yet, but was NS1 moddable?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well, I'm talking about the core game at the moment. Obviously you're free to do whatever you want once you've got the code in your hands.
Although thinking about it more, if Lerks are going to be able to camp vents quite as hard as it's sounding like, it might be good to have some form of retaliation before Jetpacks come out other than boosting or mine ladders. Something semi-auto with a bit of punch to it might be nice.
Get with the times. They've "reconsidered" that and it sounds like we're back to pistol and knife.
I wonder if the developers have read through this topic? I know that when I become a game developer for a company, I'm going to try and read forum topics and commune with the games community. I believe that game developers should have been hardcore gamers before becoming a developer so that they know what to make in the future, opposed to a non-gamer with no gaming experience.
I'm majoring in Simulation & Game Development in Apex, North Carolina. Epic Games (Unreal Tournament, Gears of War, etc) is located in Cary, North Carolina. Red Storm (Rainbow Six, Ghost Recon, etc) is also located in Cary, North Carolina or somewhere close to Cary).
Currently, I have experience with Hammer (Source SDK, Valve) and a little experience with the NS2 editor (A little is an understatement, I just started :P ).
My curriculum teaches us to use the Unreal Tournament III engine by default, I picked up the Source engine by hobby. Hopefully it won't be too different. Sorry to deviate from the topic at hand. :S
I wonder if the developers have read through this topic?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
They do read this forum. There's a few people of the "developer" group posting in this thread:
<a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/index.php?showtopic=108961" target="_blank">http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/in...howtopic=108961</a>
Now, back on topic.
I wonder if the developers have read through this topic? I know that when I become a game developer for a company, I'm going to try and read forum topics and commune with the games community. I believe that game developers should have been hardcore gamers before becoming a developer so that they know what to make in the future, opposed to a non-gamer with no gaming experience.
I'm majoring in Simulation & Game Development in Apex, North Carolina. Epic Games (Unreal Tournament, Gears of War, etc) is located in Cary, North Carolina. Red Storm (Rainbow Six, Ghost Recon, etc) is also located in Cary, North Carolina or somewhere close to Cary).
Currently, I have experience with Hammer (Source SDK, Valve) and a little experience with the NS2 editor (A little is an understatement, I just started :P ).
My curriculum teaches us to use the Unreal Tournament III engine by default, I picked up the Source engine by hobby. Hopefully it won't be too different. Sorry to deviate from the topic at hand. :S<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Gods I wouldn't if I were you, game design by popular vote is terrible, game design by people who know how to game design is much better.
I don't really think any sort of accurate weapon is a good thing in an NS game, in NS1 inaccuracy was valuable because it made it easier to hit things, generally the more inaccurate a gun was the easier it was to use, although the HMG kinda messed it up a bit because it's more accurate than the shotgun but it has the huge clip and constant ROF to offset that, the shotgun still had uses though even with the HMG.
In close quarters fights you want ease of use, which means inaccurate, powerful, and very very spammy. If you put in the complete anathema of spam, the sniper rifle, it's not going to be very useful.
In close quarters fights you want ease of use, which means inaccurate, powerful, and very very spammy. If you put in the complete anathema of spam, the sniper rifle, it's not going to be very useful.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I understand where your coming from, for example in HALO 1 the rifle was very inaccurate and it didn't make sense through like 90% of the game, and then you see the flood and find that all that innacuracy was useful for something (just for killing the low level flood). And yet halo had a sniper rifle and later halo's featured a rifle that only fires in 3 round burst and has a scope... hmmm.
To the same extent, the hmg is very inaccurate and does a better job killing skulks then any other gun in the game. I'd say better then the gl.
And ya NS1 pistol fires bullets with the same damage as the hmg and is 100% accurate.
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We can just add sniper pistols to NS2, and permit a sort of "suit zoom" like in half life 2 to get the same effect as a sniper rifle. It's cheap but acceptable. (personally i want a scope, but i accept that it's the future and the marines have a visor/hud which should permit a zoom + crosshair on screen + other stuff... target tracking)
<a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/index.php?showtopic=108961" target="_blank">http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/in...howtopic=108961</a>
Now, back on topic.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
um,
<!--quoteo(post=1755094:date=Feb 25 2010, 11:19 AM:name=tankefugl)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tankefugl @ Feb 25 2010, 11:19 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1755094"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I cannot comment on the engine workings, as that is Max' field and I'm not a NS2 developer.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Not saying they don't read this forum (they do and there's other sightings of devs in here). Just that that's an invalid citation.