Has UWE been offered work @ Valve?

hipnotyqhipnotyq Join Date: 2010-05-06 Member: 71629Members
edited May 2010 in NS2 General Discussion
I guess my question goes to the UWE team. If Valve offered you guys funds and a larger team in exchange for going to Seattle and working with them (and of course selling the NS name to Valve) would you do it?

How about after you finished work on NS1 since that was a HL mod. Were you ever in talks with Valve about being brought into their team?
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  • GregzenegairGregzenegair Join Date: 2009-06-26 Member: 67944Members
    I think, now it is too late :p
  • FortuneFortune Join Date: 2009-04-27 Member: 67290Members, Constellation
    If NS2 was a mod of Half Life 2 then I could see it maybe happening.

    Considering though UWE is it's own game studio with it's own engine and upcoming (Hopefully) AAA title... it's a little far fetched to say the least.
  • Draco_2kDraco_2k Evil Genius Join Date: 2009-12-09 Member: 69546Members
    I don't think Valve have a habit judging studios by unfinished products. I doubt they missed NS itself, but if there's anything like that, it'll probably be after NS2 release.
  • JimydJimyd Join Date: 2003-02-08 Member: 13289Members
    edited May 2010
    As long as they stay as their own unit, like Turtle Rock Studios.

    Otherwise we will have a Flamethrower upgrade that does "critical" damage on the behind.

    Although Valve's "Testers" can't find a haystack in a needle.
  • CrispyCrispy Jaded GD Join Date: 2004-08-22 Member: 30793Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1769949:date=May 6 2010, 01:57 PM:name=Jimyd)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jimyd @ May 6 2010, 01:57 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1769949"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->As long as they stay as their own unit, like Turtle Rock Studios.

    Otherwise we will have a Flamethrower upgrade that does "critical" damage on the behind.

    Although Valve's "Testers" can't find a haystack in a needle.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Valve don't do job titles, so I don't think they have any dedicated testers. It has its pros and cons. They don't seem to find really techy bugs or balance exploits (blocking spawn exit doors, permanant uber on Medics, climbing on structures to reach OoB areas, blocking AI by standing on ladders), but they do nail general balance, design and usability testing.
  • nNyxxnNyxx Join Date: 2004-02-04 Member: 26046Members, Constellation
    Valve doesn't release games, they release betas and then drop sequels to work on Expansion packs that cost $50.
  • Draco_2kDraco_2k Evil Genius Join Date: 2009-12-09 Member: 69546Members
    edited May 2010
    How about we stop picking on one of the unambiguously best developers in the whole industry for minor downfalls.

    If that's really the reception Valve gets, I dread to think what Unknown Worlds will have to face.
  • puzlpuzl The Old Firm Join Date: 2003-02-26 Member: 14029Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    Yeah valve.. why'd you have to go and do this!

    <a href="http://www.teamfortress.com/119/" target="_blank">http://www.teamfortress.com/119/</a>
  • Dante2500Dante2500 Join Date: 2009-10-17 Member: 69071Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1769963:date=May 6 2010, 05:39 PM:name=puzl)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (puzl @ May 6 2010, 05:39 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1769963"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Yeah valve.. why'd you have to go and do this!

    <a href="http://www.teamfortress.com/119/" target="_blank">http://www.teamfortress.com/119/</a><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Why? So it looks like they are doing something instead of making Left 4 Dead 3, or something like that.

    Persnally I doubt UWE would accept the offer now, they have seen massive popularity as a single company, and a large amount of cash from pre-orders. Plus, a large amount of people said they will buy it after a proper Alpha/Beta/Release. Why give Valve a larger cut of anything in the future? ;)
  • kflow47kflow47 Join Date: 2008-10-09 Member: 65154Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1769956:date=May 6 2010, 04:22 PM:name=nNyxx)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nNyxx @ May 6 2010, 04:22 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1769956"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Valve doesn't release games, they release betas and then drop sequels to work on Expansion packs that cost $50.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Stop flaming Valve I mean they release good games. Big companies allways get flamed -.-"
  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    C'mon you guys, it's just poking some fun at the big guys, it's not like outright hate is whats being expressed here, now.
  • nNyxxnNyxx Join Date: 2004-02-04 Member: 26046Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1769973:date=May 6 2010, 02:04 PM:name=kflow47)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kflow47 @ May 6 2010, 02:04 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1769973"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Stop flaming Valve I mean they release good games. Big companies allways get flamed -.-"<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    IMO, the last great title they released was Half Life 1. Half-Life 2 was alright. TF2 was TFC with all skill removed and Left 4 Dead was repetative, and Left 4 Dead 2 was Left 4 Dead 1 with less quality and a few new skins
  • cmc5788cmc5788 Join Date: 2009-10-06 Member: 68959Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1769978:date=May 6 2010, 03:22 PM:name=nNyxx)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nNyxx @ May 6 2010, 03:22 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1769978"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->IMO, the last great title they released was Half Life 1. Half-Life 2 was alright. TF2 was TFC with all skill removed and Left 4 Dead was repetative, and Left 4 Dead 2 was Left 4 Dead 1 with less quality and a few new skins<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    If you're being serious then I'm going to go ahead and just put this out here. You're wrong. I'm tempted to tell you exactly how wrong and what that makes you, but I'll just leave it there for now.
  • Renegade.Renegade. Join Date: 2003-01-15 Member: 12313Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1769956:date=May 6 2010, 10:22 AM:name=nNyxx)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nNyxx @ May 6 2010, 10:22 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1769956"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Valve doesn't release games, they release betas and then drop sequels to work on Expansion packs that cost $50.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This,
    <!--quoteo(post=1769978:date=May 6 2010, 03:22 PM:name=nNyxx)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nNyxx @ May 6 2010, 03:22 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1769978"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->IMO, the last great title they released was Half Life 1. Half-Life 2 was alright. TF2 was TFC with all skill removed and Left 4 Dead was repetative, and Left 4 Dead 2 was Left 4 Dead 1 with less quality and a few new skins<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    and this.

    <!--quoteo(post=1769986:date=May 6 2010, 04:40 PM:name=cmc5788)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cmc5788 @ May 6 2010, 04:40 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1769986"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->If you're being serious then I'm going to go ahead and just put this out here. You're wrong. I'm tempted to tell you exactly how wrong and what that makes you, but I'll just leave it there for now.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    but not this.

    HL2 was because they had too/obligation, TF2 is a pitch at casual gaming with a skill ceiling only fail gamers think is high; L4D was more a mod-approaching-beta-game, but at least there was L4D2, its fifty-dollar and nine-months-in-the-making patch.
  • cmc5788cmc5788 Join Date: 2009-10-06 Member: 68959Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1769992:date=May 6 2010, 05:20 PM:name=R_e_n_e_g_a_d_e)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (R_e_n_e_g_a_d_e @ May 6 2010, 05:20 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1769992"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->HL2 was because they had too/obligation, TF2 is a pitch at casual gaming with a skill ceiling only fail gamers think is high; L4D was more a mod-approaching-beta-game, but at least there was L4D2, its fifty-dollar and nine-months-in-the-making patch.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Sorry but popularity disagrees with you. Majority rules, and whatever your elitist ideas of what makes a game challenging or skillful or worthwhile are, they clearly don't always translate into sales.
  • Draco_2kDraco_2k Evil Genius Join Date: 2009-12-09 Member: 69546Members
    edited May 2010
    Well, this thread crossed the retardation threshold rather quickly.

    I find it amusing how people can get crap just for striving to make good games in spite of profits rather than going for a quick buck. No, wait, "amusing" is the wrong word here... What was it... Oh yeah, "pathetic".

    I hope you have strong will on you, Unknown Worlds, it looks like you'll need it in spades...
  • celewigncelewign Join Date: 2010-02-06 Member: 70458Members
    well what do you expect draco, people who play ns are people who like skill games like quake and tribes and tend to dislike these new games that don't require skill to do well. theres a lot of hate from the tfc'ers because tf2 is a plug and play game and doesn't reward skill.
  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    edited May 2010
    <!--quoteo(post=1769963:date=May 6 2010, 04:39 PM:name=puzl)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (puzl @ May 6 2010, 04:39 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1769963"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Yeah valve.. why'd you have to go and do this!

    <a href="http://www.teamfortress.com/119/" target="_blank">http://www.teamfortress.com/119/</a><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Funny :D

    I also question anyone who can show me a beta medallion/tag from their steam profile.

    Quickedit: You don't count THEM, you're an employee :P
  • Draco_2kDraco_2k Evil Genius Join Date: 2009-12-09 Member: 69546Members
    edited May 2010
    <!--quoteo(post=1769998:date=May 7 2010, 02:17 AM:name=celewign)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (celewign @ May 7 2010, 02:17 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1769998"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->well what do you expect draco, people who play ns are people who like skill games like quake and tribes and tend to dislike these new games that don't require skill to do well. theres a lot of hate from the tfc'ers because tf2 is a plug and play game and doesn't reward skill.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I can't raise a meaningful argument against whoever confuses inscrutability with skill.

    Otherwise, I guess, I expect people not to ###### from a high tree on whoever dares to make good games they just don't happen to personally like. Of course it's a tall order for the insecure and elite, just as it is in every other walk of life. It's where bigotry comes from, actually.

    I'm guessing it's the detachment from any human feeling a price tag creates, transforming games from work of art you're just happy to share into soulless product you feel obliged to berate and complain about.

    <!--coloro:#696969--><span style="color:#696969"><!--/coloro-->And I am using "you" in the sense of "one", since there have been misunderstandings in the past...<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->
  • nadylinadyli Join Date: 2007-11-01 Member: 62791Members, Squad Five Blue
    edited May 2010
    They did a good job with TF2 (and every other game, execpt maybe CS:S, that I know of) and if you're saying that it doesn't require any skill you're clearly a clueless jackass.
  • Draco_2kDraco_2k Evil Genius Join Date: 2009-12-09 Member: 69546Members
    edited May 2010
    Name-calling isn't really ever a good idea: no matter who did it first, you're still tagging along for the ride.
  • nadylinadyli Join Date: 2007-11-01 Member: 62791Members, Squad Five Blue
    edited May 2010
    Leave it for the real moderators. :)
  • Draco_2kDraco_2k Evil Genius Join Date: 2009-12-09 Member: 69546Members
    edited May 2010
    Unfortunately they can't be smartasses like I can be.
  • JimydJimyd Join Date: 2003-02-08 Member: 13289Members
    Some people lack the funny/sarcasm detection bone real badly.

    /sigh
  • hipnotyqhipnotyq Join Date: 2010-05-06 Member: 71629Members
    edited May 2010
    I hate to think of what you guys think of EA or Activision of you hate on Valve so much....
    wait... don't answer that.
  • NeoSniperNeoSniper Join Date: 2005-06-02 Member: 52976Members
    I wonder where is the fine line between:

    "They don't support X game! Where's the patch?!"

    and

    "They just released a beta to be patched later on"

    There will always be people who find something to complain about. I understand people missing Tribes and Quake, but TF2 and L4D2 are not the current gen FPS games you should be picking on. They are high quality, well supported games. If you are not their target audience then just move on. Let other people enjoy them in peace.

    L4D2 is my fav game atm and play mostly that with the little gaming time I clock in. I still play TF2 every once in a while(updates). But not much of anything else. Even NS, I'm sad to say hasn't gotten any love in a while.
  • Squeal_Like_A_PigSqueal_Like_A_Pig Janitor Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 66Members, Super Administrators, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Developer, Reinforced - Supporter, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Developer
    <!--quoteo(post=1769933:date=May 6 2010, 09:37 AM:name=hipnotyq)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (hipnotyq @ May 6 2010, 09:37 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1769933"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->If Valve offered you guys funds and a larger team in exchange for going to Seattle and working with them (and of course selling the NS name to Valve) would you do it?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    No.

    <!--quoteo(post=1769933:date=May 6 2010, 09:37 AM:name=hipnotyq)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (hipnotyq @ May 6 2010, 09:37 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1769933"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->How about after you finished work on NS1 since that was a HL mod. Were you ever in talks with Valve about being brought into their team?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    No.


    --Cory
  • steppin'razorsteppin'razor Join Date: 2008-09-18 Member: 65033Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1769992:date=May 7 2010, 08:20 AM:name=R_e_n_e_g_a_d_e)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (R_e_n_e_g_a_d_e @ May 7 2010, 08:20 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1769992"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->TF2 is a pitch at casual gaming with a skill ceiling only fail gamers think is high;<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Wow, just wow.
  • Draco_2kDraco_2k Evil Genius Join Date: 2009-12-09 Member: 69546Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1770031:date=May 7 2010, 06:46 AM:name=Squeal_Like_A_Pig)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Squeal_Like_A_Pig @ May 7 2010, 06:46 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1770031"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->No... No.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Way to clear things up.

    Well, you seem to be doing fine so far on your own. ;)
  • Renegade.Renegade. Join Date: 2003-01-15 Member: 12313Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1769993:date=May 6 2010, 05:23 PM:name=cmc5788)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cmc5788 @ May 6 2010, 05:23 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1769993"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Sorry but <b>popularity</b> disagrees with you. Majority rules, and whatever your elitist ideas of what makes a game challenging or skillful or worthwhile are, they clearly don't always translate into <b>sales</b>.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    this is it folks. the bobby-kotick fail-gamer mentality that's responsible for the success of generic clones like MW2 and everything that's wrong with mainstream society today.
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