Alpha Servers.

PapayasPapayas Join Date: 2010-07-01 Member: 72219Members
in NS2 General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">Thread discussion for the servers in the Alpha.</div>So, we have OVER 9000!!!!! people who have the Alpha and obviously going up, so...

I was wondering how many servers there will be and how many people these servers will contain (Maximum)

Also, making a few servers dedicated to the pre-order guys (Standard & Special Edition) so that only they can go on. To ensure they can play on the server with the guys here but only after this game comes out officially and not in the Alpha/Beta.
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  • StreptoStrepto Join Date: 2005-01-07 Member: 33571Members
    I've got an older machine that I'll be running a dedicated server on if I can. I would love a linux dedicated server but considering the circumstances I guess I'll have to put up with running windows until it gets done. Aiming for at least 12 players, hopefully more.
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  • AezonixAezonix Join Date: 2009-12-20 Member: 69727Members, Constellation
    Hoping server rental companies (well, at least one!) will pick up the NS2 alpha for hosting. I'd gladly pay for a server.
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  • GaidinTSGaidinTS Join Date: 2003-08-10 Member: 19319Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Yeah, I won't be able to throw up my server until there's a linux binary. I'm not going to go buy another license of windows just run an alpha dedicated server.
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  • WunschkindWunschkind Join Date: 2010-02-20 Member: 70658Members
    I've got a pretty fast (quad-core, 8GB RAM) Windows 2008-Server that's got almost "nothing" to do (yet), but I've never set up a game server for a steam-based game.

    <b>Do I need to install Steam on the server?
    Do I need a separate account or even buy a second (NS2-) license?</b>

    If I don't have to buy a second license I'll probably set up a dedicated server (located in germany) for you (and me :P).
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  • TagertsweTagertswe Join Date: 2010-03-04 Member: 70825Members
    I got a linux server at home, but I'll investigate if I can install windows virtually on it and help with hosting in any way I can :)
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  • AezonixAezonix Join Date: 2009-12-20 Member: 69727Members, Constellation
    edited July 2010
    <!--quoteo(post=1779500:date=Jul 16 2010, 08:09 AM:name=Wunschkind)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Wunschkind @ Jul 16 2010, 08:09 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1779500"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I've got a pretty fast (quad-core, 8GB RAM) Windows 2008-Server that's got almost "nothing" to do (yet), but I've never set up a game server for a steam-based game.

    <b>Do I need to install Steam on the server?
    Do I need a separate account or even buy a second (NS2-) license?</b>

    If I don't have to buy a second license I'll probably set up a dedicated server (located in germany) for you (and me :P).<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    These are some good questions. I've been emailing server hosting companies to ask about NS2 Alpha support but have thus far received either no response or a "check back when it goes retail" response.

    Anyone know of a hosting company that will be supporting NS2 Alpha? Price isn't a big issue.
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  • devicenulldevicenull Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15967Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    <!--quoteo(post=1779500:date=Jul 16 2010, 09:09 AM:name=Wunschkind)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Wunschkind @ Jul 16 2010, 09:09 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1779500"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I've got a pretty fast (quad-core, 8GB RAM) Windows 2008-Server that's got almost "nothing" to do (yet), but I've never set up a game server for a steam-based game.

    <b>Do I need to install Steam on the server?
    Do I need a separate account or even buy a second (NS2-) license?</b>

    If I don't have to buy a second license I'll probably set up a dedicated server (located in germany) for you (and me :P).<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I emailed Charlie about this:
    1) Steam is not going to be required (they said some Steam dlls will be required, I'm guessing this will be similar to the ones distributed with hlds/srcds). Even if it were, that's not a big deal
    2) The server is not going to require a separate key.

    About hosting companies: One of the questions I emailed Charlie was in relation to this. It would seem the server is missing a critical feature for any company to be able to host it. Hopefully the developers add it before release.
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  • AezonixAezonix Join Date: 2009-12-20 Member: 69727Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1779605:date=Jul 16 2010, 01:30 PM:name=devicenull)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (devicenull @ Jul 16 2010, 01:30 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1779605"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->About hosting companies: One of the questions I emailed Charlie was in relation to this. It would seem the server is missing a critical feature for any company to be able to host it. Hopefully the developers add it before release.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    That's unfortunate. I'm part of a large community eagerly counting down to release - unfortunately, the hardware is lacking and thus we'd have to rent a server or two. Hopefully that gets worked out in some sort of reasonable amount of time. Not to mention if it's just a bunch of average Joes doing the hosting, server stability is likely to be an issue.
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  • w0dk4w0dk4 Join Date: 2008-04-22 Member: 64129Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1779494:date=Jul 16 2010, 02:18 PM:name=Aezonix)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Aezonix @ Jul 16 2010, 02:18 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1779494"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Hoping server rental companies (well, at least one!) will pick up the NS2 alpha for hosting. I'd gladly pay for a server.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    You know there is this thing called rootserver?
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  • msleepermsleeper Join Date: 2009-10-13 Member: 69034Members
    I am planning on hosting at least 1 for both msleeper.com and F7Lans at time of release. I hope there will be some way of setting up reserved slots or a password, because I know me and my friends will always want first dibs!

    And I know that they have already said that linux server files will come at a later date, but I do want to put my +1 for having them sooner rather than later. I am having to outsource a Windows machine to host a couple servers, when normally I would be able to set them up in a flash on linux.
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  • wattlewattle Join Date: 2010-07-17 Member: 72474Members
    I'm really interested in purchasing a server or two, hoping that's an available option! Really wanna get a core group of players together.
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  • TagertsweTagertswe Join Date: 2010-03-04 Member: 70825Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1779717:date=Jul 16 2010, 09:48 PM:name=msleeper)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (msleeper @ Jul 16 2010, 09:48 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1779717"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I am planning on hosting at least 1 for both msleeper.com and F7Lans at time of release. I hope there will be some way of setting up reserved slots or a password, because I know me and my friends will always want first dibs!

    And I know that they have already said that linux server files will come at a later date, but I do want to put my +1 for having them sooner rather than later. I am having to outsource a Windows machine to host a couple servers, when normally I would be able to set them up in a flash on linux.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Could setup Virtualbox on your linux server if you got plenty of ram :)
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  • f8l3rr0rf8l3rr0r Join Date: 2009-10-30 Member: 69182Members
    I am also interested if anyone finds out more info could you please send me a PM.
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  • ctoon6ctoon6 Join Date: 2007-06-15 Member: 61256Members
    why would you need natural selection support? all you do is install all the stuff manually on a dedicated server.
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  • w0dk4w0dk4 Join Date: 2008-04-22 Member: 64129Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    re Twitter update:

    Do we have to apply to get the dedicated server files, or what?
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  • DrownDrown Underwater Join Date: 2002-12-02 Member: 10392Members
    I'll be hosting a dedicated Western Canadian server when the day comes. Should give good pings to west and central US. Got a box set aside already. I'll host any of the custom maps ready at that time too.
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  • PapayasPapayas Join Date: 2010-07-01 Member: 72219Members
    Well, it's good to see so many people are hosting servers :)
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  • Blue21Blue21 Join Date: 2009-06-29 Member: 67970Members
    You can still host a server through a company like NFO with a <a href="http://www.nfoservers.com/order-virtual-dedicated-server.php" target="_blank">VDS/VPS</a>
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  • Apollonius999Apollonius999 Join Date: 2009-09-09 Member: 68725Members
    I'll be hosting on my quad core box out of St. Louis. I might even expand out to my Texas and possibly other box's i have as dedi's across the states.
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  • AezonixAezonix Join Date: 2009-12-20 Member: 69727Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1780506:date=Jul 18 2010, 04:31 PM:name=Blue21)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Blue21 @ Jul 18 2010, 04:31 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1780506"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->You can still host a server through a company like NFO with a <a href="http://www.nfoservers.com/order-virtual-dedicated-server.php" target="_blank">VDS/VPS</a><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Never used a service like that for server hosting - how difficult would it be to set up a server? Seems like you wouldn't get the same functionality, but maybe I'm wrong.

    $40 as the basic price per month seems a little on the pricey side, as well.
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  • Blue21Blue21 Join Date: 2009-06-29 Member: 67970Members
    Considering that most servers from them are upwards of $50 or more its really quite reasonable.

    If you know what your doing its really easy. Basically the same setup as you would if you were to run a server from home. Except, better hardware and internet connection going through NFO.

    Also:

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  • CobbyCobby Join Date: 2010-05-09 Member: 71685Members
    I have a friend who will put up an EU server on his dedi when linux binaries are available
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  • WatchMakerWatchMaker Join Date: 2003-09-26 Member: 21233Members, Constellation
    NFO servers are top notch. I've worked on four different development teams, and they've ALWAYS been willing to host our private testing servers free of cost. They have excellent servers with a very easy to use control panel, and at this point, I don't see myself using another provider. Seeing them backing up the NS2 Alpha is no surprise, they're always on board with great ideas.
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  • AezonixAezonix Join Date: 2009-12-20 Member: 69727Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1780584:date=Jul 18 2010, 08:49 PM:name=WatchMaker)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WatchMaker @ Jul 18 2010, 08:49 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1780584"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->NFO servers are top notch. I've worked on four different development teams, and they've ALWAYS been willing to host our private testing servers free of cost. They have excellent servers with a very easy to use control panel, and at this point, I don't see myself using another provider. Seeing them backing up the NS2 Alpha is no surprise, they're always on board with great ideas.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Sounds like pretty high praise.
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  • GoekhanGoekhan Join Date: 2010-02-27 Member: 70761Members
    I'll be running 1-4 NS2 servers from Middle-East/Eastern Europewhen linux support is available.
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  • kr0nikwisd0mkr0nikwisd0m Join Date: 2007-03-11 Member: 60325Members, Constellation
    I'll be hosting two servers on alpha release. One for official maps and I hope one for SIEGE!! Fun Siege maps in NS2 ALPHA!! wetclan.com will has related info.
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  • TagertsweTagertswe Join Date: 2010-03-04 Member: 70825Members
    Just got virtualbox and windows server working inside linux so I will be able to bring up a few servers on launch day as well :)
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  • SN.WolfSN.Wolf Join Date: 2010-03-29 Member: 71115Members
    I'll be tossing one up on the central west coast US, maybe two if demand calls for it.

    Will the alpha have down loadable content enabled for custom maps via P2P or will it just run SS mods?
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  • yourbonesakinyourbonesakin Join Date: 2005-08-06 Member: 57682Members
    There probably will be demand for a lot of servers.

    There are 10,000 alpha players. If every server can hold 25 players on average, 400 servers would be required if everyone was bugtesting at once. That's not going to be the case (except RIGHT when it launches and hours afterwards (maybe a whole day in my case :D)), so 100-300 servers will be needed around the globe so mostly everyone can bugtest. I doubt even everyone who ordered Special Edition is going to bugtest the alpha, so maybe 50-200 servers will be needed for everyone.
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  • BryBry Join Date: 2003-01-23 Member: 12609Members
    BryNS will be purchasing a dedicated server to runa couple of servers.

    Very glad its a windows executable, NS always did run better on a windows box.
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