lol <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->) just get a mask and a jetpack and ur good to go <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
break the glass then go out <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
Maybe he's trying to tell you something about the level of your play . <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--RandomEngy+Dec 5 2002, 08:26 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (RandomEngy @ Dec 5 2002, 08:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I think the waypoint is actually in a valid place; the level designer just messed up and showed empty space where there was actually stuff.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> hmm i wanted to slice this map (it's hera, right?) to check this...
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I hate it when comms send you and only you into the middle of alien encamptment... gah that pisses me off... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
if he is a competent commander, he is sending you to plink few of those chambers and sit around the corner waiting to ambush aliens who respond, while your teammates are trying to set up a forward base somewhere else. remember, you ARE expendable if all you have is LMG and a pistol.
TalesinOur own little well of hateJoin Date: 2002-11-08Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
Usually when I'm Comm'ing, I don't have to bother sending a Marine to harass their hive... that's what Rambos are for. And why I take such joy in hearing their cries of 'medpack', when I didn't send them there and they cost NOTHING to respawn, but 2 RP to med up. Instead I usually let the Rambos do what they like, but give them NO support. While I take my half of the team (if I'm lucky) that WILL follow orders, and send them over to secure a forward point.
problem with rambos is that they cannot provide constant harrasment a-la skulk rush. they die go here,, die, go there, die, stand next to res spot etc. 1 competent marine can make aliens think there's assault on the hive going from one direction while his teammates are getting the siege farm on the opposite vector
<!--QuoteBegin--FireStorm+Dec 6 2002, 05:48 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (FireStorm @ Dec 6 2002, 05:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--RandomEngy+Dec 5 2002, 08:26 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (RandomEngy @ Dec 5 2002, 08:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I think the waypoint is actually in a valid place; the level designer just messed up and showed empty space where there was actually stuff.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> hmm i wanted to slice this map (it's hera, right?) to check this...
no comment <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> its ns_nancy
I have been frustrated in the past when the Cdr gives me a waypoint 50 metres away, and when I get there, he gives me another waypoint 40 metres back towards where I just was - but at least
(1) he is givng me tasks, and not ignoring me. What he needs me to do might have changed in the time it takes to get to the waypoint; and
(2) I am clearing a path from place to place
I assume that the Cdr wants me to destroy anything I encounter en route. If not, he should explicitly tell me to ignore it.
I don't expend a lot of energy trying to second-guess the Cdr - after all, he is the Cdr. I have seen a lot of games in which at the start nobody wants to get in the damn chair, but as soon as somebody does, everyone else is giving him a hard time, voting to eject him etc. It's simple, folks. There are two ranks in the marines: Cdr, and grunt. If you ain't the Cdr, shut up, do what you are told, and get on with it. If you don't like to do that, then you better bone up on your Cdr skills.
Marine Recruiting Poster:
We need good Cdrs We need good Grunts We sure as hell don't need nuthin' else.
on a serious note, why i dont command, no one listens. example. "Guys lets take over maintance" Oh hey look HellBilly and the limited others that know me or are in DK or VE with me go, where do the others go? No where run to the hive get lit up or just free roam, i have screamed, literally screamed trying to make people listen to me. sad.
All the time I play on marines and the marine team wins is b/c the commander has the respect from all the team mates. If I needed health or ammo he would drop it to in the next 3 secs. without me askin four to five times. They gave out waypoints and told us what to do the whole time. Also every time the marines won it was a fast game and no one played around.
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just get a mask and a jetpack and ur good to go <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
You should always obey your commander!
always <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
break the glass then go out <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
there is like 80 offense towers round the corner with a waypoint leading right into them and then they start shouting at you for not going...
<b>"Bloody hell! Just goto your waypoint, how hard is that!?"</b>
hmm i wanted to slice this map (it's hera, right?) to check this...
D:\SIERRA\BSP_tool>bsp_slicer -c d:\sierra\hlife\ns\maps\ns_hera.bsp
************ ERROR ************
num_entities == MAX_MAP_ENTITIES
Press <ENTER> to exit
no comment <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
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if he is a competent commander, he is sending you to plink few of those chambers and sit around the corner waiting to ambush aliens who respond, while your teammates are trying to set up a forward base somewhere else. remember, you ARE expendable if all you have is LMG and a pistol.
hmm i wanted to slice this map (it's hera, right?) to check this...
D:\SIERRA\BSP_tool>bsp_slicer -c d:\sierra\hlife\ns\maps\ns_hera.bsp
************ ERROR ************
num_entities == MAX_MAP_ENTITIES
Press <ENTER> to exit
no comment <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
its ns_nancy
(1) he is givng me tasks, and not ignoring me. What he needs me to do might have changed in the time it takes to get to the waypoint; and
(2) I am clearing a path from place to place
I assume that the Cdr wants me to destroy anything I encounter en route. If not, he should explicitly tell me to ignore it.
I don't expend a lot of energy trying to second-guess the Cdr - after all, he is the Cdr. I have seen a lot of games in which at the start nobody wants to get in the damn chair, but as soon as somebody does, everyone else is giving him a hard time, voting to eject him etc. It's simple, folks. There are two ranks in the marines: Cdr, and grunt. If you ain't the Cdr, shut up, do what you are told, and get on with it. If you don't like to do that, then you better bone up on your Cdr skills.
Marine Recruiting Poster:
We need good Cdrs
We need good Grunts
We sure as hell don't need nuthin' else.
i managed to slice it...
hmm... maybe it was a valid target...
Yes this waypoins was in a valid place. Look at the screenshot below. The waypoint is near the hive (motion tracking)