Minimum Requirements of Alpha version?
hit321
Join Date: 2007-11-17 Member: 62942Members, Constellation, NS2 Map Tester
Join Date: 2007-11-17 Member: 62942Members, Constellation, NS2 Map Tester
<div class="IPBDescription">Will be the official minimum requirements of NS2 in Alpha version ?</div>The Topic Description says all.
In the site says:
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS:
1.2 GHz Processor, 256MB RAM, a DirectX 9 level graphics card, Windows Vista/2000/XP, Steam, mouse, keyboard and an internet connection.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
This SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS are valid for the version Alpha ?
In the site says:
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS:
1.2 GHz Processor, 256MB RAM, a DirectX 9 level graphics card, Windows Vista/2000/XP, Steam, mouse, keyboard and an internet connection.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
This SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS are valid for the version Alpha ?
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Now i have Core i7 920, HD4870 - it's not enough, 10-20 fps, medium settings on 1024x768.
Some people are getting high fps with relatively low system specs.
I'm getting a little better fps than the above poster and I'm using a AMD X2 64 3000+ and an NVidia 9600GT. (6gb RAM)
Now i have Core i7 920, HD4870 - it's not enough, 10-20 fps, medium settings on 1024x768.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
There aren't any for performance, as that it what they will work on right up to release.
Now i have Core i7 920, HD4870 - it's not enough, 10-20 fps, medium settings on 1024x768.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
There may be something wrong with your setup/configuration. I get about 40-60fps on an i5 750 hd4770 in 1920x1080 on high.
You also need to re-read his post, there's no point in targeting a spec for an alpha. When everything's closer to release, they'll have an actual idea of what's sufficient.
note, I'm sure there will be tremendous improvements over time, but from utterly unplayable to competition-feasible is a big step. and since my computer is only one and a half year old, I think it should at least play something that was advertised as having system requirements that my 5 year old pc could handle, I mean, there's hardly been any improvement from engine test to alpha... (in performance I mean) (and yes I can play l4d2 without problems)
and before people start about it being something for unknown worlds, I donated for constellation more than ns2 normal edition used to cost the moment I could (around 1.04), and bought the special edition instantly, just don't want to pay for a game I can't play when it was advertised to play on a computer I ditched years ago
just would like an anser to the question, if it doesn't run properly, will I get my money back?
i could be wrong, but i don't believe you can refund a game that's registered to steam.
In another post a member of the team mentioned that the engine test was simply that - i.e. it is not a version of the game. So it shouldn't be used to guess what your performance might be in later versions.
I think in time they will be able to improve performance for us with less powerful systems. The first alpha update focused on the connection issues just wait and see how well the future updates improve performance I guess,
oh they would have to do some magic with steam, but seeing as they would have based the contract on false pretences, by law it would have to be refundable. And I mean, it's not unreasonable, I can run l4d2, which has minimum requirements waaaaay higher than what was indicated when they got my money.
In another post a member of the team mentioned that the engine test was simply that - i.e. it is not a version of the game. So it shouldn't be used to guess what your performance might be in later versions.
I think in time they will be able to improve performance for us with less powerful systems. The first alpha update focused on the connection issues just wait and see how well the future updates improve performance I guess,<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
oh I'm certainly hoping it will improve, just have never seen that big of an improvement in specs, since they have graphics that equal or are better l4d2, but want to run it procedurally instead of having it compiled.
and I'm hoping it will, just wondering if it won't run, what will happen.
and I'm hoping it will, just wondering if it won't run, what will happen.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
If you're a big NS fan you can keep the game and play it later on another system you get in future :D
(I know computers r so expensive to upgrade but eventually we all have to upgrade them...)
Some people with much better systems than me actually get worse performance on NS2 - it's weird right now.
note, I'm sure there will be tremendous improvements over time, but from utterly unplayable to competition-feasible is a big step. and since my computer is only one and a half year old, I think it should at least play something that was advertised as having system requirements that my 5 year old pc could handle, I mean, there's hardly been any improvement from engine test to alpha... (in performance I mean) (and yes I can play l4d2 without problems)
and before people start about it being something for unknown worlds, I donated for constellation more than ns2 normal edition used to cost the moment I could (around 1.04), and bought the special edition instantly, just don't want to pay for a game I can't play when it was advertised to play on a computer I ditched years ago
just would like an anser to the question, if it doesn't run properly, will I get my money back?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Try re-reading Max's post and you do understand the word MINIMAL right?
try reading my post and actually understanding me
all im asking is, if they don't manage to pull off the spec reduction, can I get my money back... I'm not asking for it back right now, I'm asking a question about a hypothetical situation (that means it might or might not happen) when retail goes live... it's not like I'm asking something unreasonable...
so to repeat for people that have trouble reading:
- I think it will be okay with the specs
- if not, will there be reimbursement?
I take it it was a joke, if not: I spend 20 dollar on constellation to support charlie back in ns1.04, I bought the special edition instantly, it's not that I'm not an ns fan... it's a question about a hypothetical situation that I'd like them to think about... If I wanted a refund I would not post it on these forums... I would mail them for my refund...
You can, as I know several people who got thier MOH preorder refunded even after playing the beta for a while, because they didn't want to shell out for "some COD console knockoff". You just have to send a steam support ticket/contact support before the game is released and you can usually get your preorder refunded.
This is what I feel would be a more realistic target for minimum specs:
2.8ghz P4-equivalent processor
1GB RAM
128MB DirectX 9 capable video card
Windows XP/Vista/7
Internet connection
Those are VERY common components five years ago, and so it's a very typical minimum specs for many games released a year or two ago.
all im asking is, if they don't manage to pull off the spec reduction, can I get my money back... I'm not asking for it back right now, I'm asking a question about a hypothetical situation (that means it might or might not happen) when retail goes live... it's not like I'm asking something unreasonable...
so to repeat for people that have trouble reading:
- I think it will be okay with the specs
- if not, will there be reimbursement?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Considering you can play the game NOW in alpha, shows that the game works with the MINIMAL specs stated. And again I ask do you know what MINIMAL means?
Also can you please tell me what the hell l4d has ANYTHING to do with this at all? Your comparing a FINISHED product to a freaking alpha, apples and oranges.
I've seen some people complain about very bad FPS with a much faster rig then I have, while I can play this game on High @ 1440*960 (windowmode) at a decent fps. I just run @ low quality atm, because the game is less prone to crashing that way, even if I get decent fps on high settings.
So in short, even the best gaming rig won't guarantee excellent performance. The game might not even run, like Max said, they can only give out the minimum reqs when the game is at least at 1.0
Also can you please tell me what the hell l4d has ANYTHING to do with this at all? Your comparing a FINISHED product to a freaking alpha, apples and oranges.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
it doesn't work with the minimal specs stated... :S
but why people keep focussing on the whole "alpha" thing I don't get, I know it will be much improved, I just wanna know if when the retail version comes out, it might be too late to get a refund, so I'm asking now, if it doesn't work all the way then (NOT NOW!), can I still get a refund?
and I agree with all of you that the fact it doesn't run at the moment is no indication it will not run later...
Unbelievable.
If the question is "if I meet the stated minimum specs and can't run the alpha, can I get my money back?" then you're right. Given that everything is yet to be optimised, maybe there shouldn't be stated minimum specs. If someone pre-ordered based on the minimum specs shown, but can't run the game when it's actually released they'd have every right to demand their cash back, as far as I can see.
In the world of endless blizzard sequels or CoD 27 spending a small amount of money (or in other words: e.g. 89 Euro for the Special SC II Edition) in an innovative small software producer and nearly full access to the development of a game is one of the things, i would not think about it...
Plz don't complain about an alpha Oo When the beta comes out, there will be enough time to complain.
I fight with the min reqs too, but even if it doesn't run properly on my system, i would never think about refounding my money, because of all the money i spend in different software producers in the last 10 years, i had never such a good feeling as i have it spending in UWE.
Don't judge my english :) It's castrated by years of CS, NS and Co. <.<
but why people keep focussing on the whole "alpha" thing I don't get, I know it will be much improved, I just wanna know if when the retail version comes out, it might be too late to get a refund, so I'm asking now, if it doesn't work all the way then (NOT NOW!), can I still get a refund?
and I agree with all of you that the fact it doesn't run at the moment is no indication it will not run later...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
What do you mean by it doesn't work, you literally can't play the game at all? Now I don't mean slow, laggy or low fps, I mean the game literally won't even start because your computer can't handle it at all. Now if your game starts and you even get 1fps then the minimal requirements would be correct.
Now if you want the game to run smooth, then you would need to look at the required specs which haven't been posted yet so we all have yet to find out.
If you have any form of rig capable of playing games then I expect by release this game will please.
However, at this stage I would agree its difficult to define any kind of minimum requirements as the performance is all over the place. But I dont believe it is at all reasonable to begin asking about refunds at this point unless you bought the wrong game (even then Im tempted to say perhaps it should be a lesson to ya).